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Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread
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The next event is Gamescom, this week. But we don't know yet if Sony will be present.....
Those were also basic 3D models that took a week or two to make. The models these days take far, far longer.
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More like the local, than express.
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Best hope they properly simulate stick shifts this time
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How about turbo lags and different kinds of AT as well?
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If polyphony digital wants their games to be called "the real driving simulator" then they have to simulate those things properly as well
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IMHO wil GT7 launch or December 2020, or more likely March-April 20201 or at worst June 2020 in worst case scenario. I think it will have 750-800 cars, not 1350 at launch but with several years of heavy costant updates it could go to 1500 or even close to 2000 cars. But it takes a lot of time, consider that 350 cars from gtsport are only imported so it takes less times for them (we will have all content from sport considering it's a GT7 prologue based on online racing) plus another 300 new cars we could reach 650-700 cars count at launch or even 750-800 max max.
More cars than GT4 and GT2 at launch maybe, but less than GT5 and GT6. However, with heavy updates and patching the game every 2 weeks in 3 years we can go to over 1200 cars and reach even 1500-2000 cars in 4-5 years of updates, when we will be close to a GT8 release on late PS5 lifespan, near to PS6 launch which could happen in 2026, or GT8 could come in 2026 along with PS6 directly at launch, but if they don't make a Sport 2 in middle ps5 lifespan at ps5 pro release, then so they have time to update GT7 for years until GT8 or PS6 comes and GT7 can reach 2000 cars by then....
What you think about my predictions?
More cars than GT4 and GT2 at launch maybe, but less than GT5 and GT6. However, with heavy updates and patching the game every 2 weeks in 3 years we can go to over 1200 cars and reach even 1500-2000 cars in 4-5 years of updates, when we will be close to a GT8 release on late PS5 lifespan, near to PS6 launch which could happen in 2026, or GT8 could come in 2026 along with PS6 directly at launch, but if they don't make a Sport 2 in middle ps5 lifespan at ps5 pro release, then so they have time to update GT7 for years until GT8 or PS6 comes and GT7 can reach 2000 cars by then....
What you think about my predictions?
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750-800 cars at launch isn't realistic at all. Kazunori Yamauchi said that each car takes 6 months to make for GT SPORT so 500-550 cars at launch would make much more sense. Also 2000 cars at the end of the game's lifecycle isn't realistic either. It is actually almost funny to think about it. I would expect 800 cars MAX if I am being generous if the game is supported for the entire PS5 generation. GT6 Had so many cars because they were a lot easier to make because they were less detailed and also because most of the car models were PS2 models that were even less detailed
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If they told us that GT7 was coming out in 2022 then so be it. The fact we don’t even know the *year* it’s launching is what bothers me a bit. I don’t mind waiting, but I’d like to know what’s going on at the same time. You have some people swearing this will be a launch title, while others say it’s a year or 2 away for sure.
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@happycorey Sorry, i was wrong it's March-April 2021, I didn' check the message and I accidentaly wrote 2020 instead 2021, apologize 
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If this was a normal GT cycle happening I could see how people would think the release is far from now, but there's a lot of speculation that points towards launch.
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@NickXP Well, considering PD it's a medium size studio of more than 100 people... If the game comes in Early or Half 2021 then game with all gt sport and new cars can probably reach 550-600 cars at launch, but it depends how far will be released from since they started workoing on and when, more time they take= more cars (obviously)
In a early or middle 2021 perspective 500-550 cars would be reasonable, in a late 2021 perspective 600-650, if it's 2022 which is unlikely could be max 650-700 cars.... and with updates regarding if they update it heavily for the whole PS5 generation, reach 1200 cars and reach GT6 number roughly... But it depends how much they will work and update it, and how long before the game launch and how much time they got to put and make content
My speculations on the number of cars at worst and at best:
At worst (and if it comes with the console launch, or early 2021)=500 cars launch and 750-850 with years of updates
At best (if comes late 2021 or 2022 and if they put more work)= 650 cars max at launch (if all gt sport cars are already imported) and reach 1000 cars with all updates for whole generation.
Who knows maybe we will be surprised and get the game at launch with 5000 cars and 200 tracks no i'm joking obviously but imagine how cool would be XD XD
In a early or middle 2021 perspective 500-550 cars would be reasonable, in a late 2021 perspective 600-650, if it's 2022 which is unlikely could be max 650-700 cars.... and with updates regarding if they update it heavily for the whole PS5 generation, reach 1200 cars and reach GT6 number roughly... But it depends how much they will work and update it, and how long before the game launch and how much time they got to put and make content
My speculations on the number of cars at worst and at best:
At worst (and if it comes with the console launch, or early 2021)=500 cars launch and 750-850 with years of updates
At best (if comes late 2021 or 2022 and if they put more work)= 650 cars max at launch (if all gt sport cars are already imported) and reach 1000 cars with all updates for whole generation.
Who knows maybe we will be surprised and get the game at launch with 5000 cars and 200 tracks no i'm joking obviously but imagine how cool would be XD XD
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336 cars in GTS currently (including "duplicates").
The first 6 months they added 50 cars. Even if they continued at that pace, that's only 100 cars a year. Very little content in 2020, so let's say 100 cars completed in 2020 for GT7.
2019 we started with 5 to 8 cars a month, eventually down to only 3. So, it's a reasonable guess that 2019 cars completed but not yet released are substantially less than 100, let's say half were held over for GT7.
At end of 2020, that estimates car content at 336 + 50 (2019) + 100 (2020) = 486.
So, if GT7 releases before April 2021, car content can't logically be much above 500.
I think they will get it to 500 cars if they can, if only for the marketing aspect, as that's a very significant number psychologically. Remember how much they plugged "over 1,000 cars" for GT6?
The first 6 months they added 50 cars. Even if they continued at that pace, that's only 100 cars a year. Very little content in 2020, so let's say 100 cars completed in 2020 for GT7.
2019 we started with 5 to 8 cars a month, eventually down to only 3. So, it's a reasonable guess that 2019 cars completed but not yet released are substantially less than 100, let's say half were held over for GT7.
At end of 2020, that estimates car content at 336 + 50 (2019) + 100 (2020) = 486.
So, if GT7 releases before April 2021, car content can't logically be much above 500.
I think they will get it to 500 cars if they can, if only for the marketing aspect, as that's a very significant number psychologically. Remember how much they plugged "over 1,000 cars" for GT6?
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I’ll take quality over quantity all day long with GT. The older games had an obscene amount of cars, but how many of them were plain worthless? How many duplicate NSX or other cars were there to boost the car count number?
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'GRAN TURISMO IS BACK'
We can read at the beginning of the trailer.
This is a catchphrase to say that the previous features will be back. Among them, the huge number of cars.
And as it was observed by some guys, (as a tip), the first images of the trailer were of a Ford GT interior... well, this car is the symbol of Gran Turismo 4...
Then GT7 will have 700 cars.
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This, much better to have less cars but with more detailed physics etc. than thousands of low quality cars.
To me 450/500 cars are more than enought, even on GTS i havent used them all.
Exactly, I don't know why so many people get so obsessed over pure numbers. It means absolutely nothing. I could create two games that both advertise 500 cars and one could be a varied smörgåsbord of cars from over 70 years of road and motorsport, whilst the other could have 50 Skyline's, 30 Miata's, 30 Focus', etc.
Stop focusing on numbers, "I want 500", "It needs 700". No, what it, and any racing game needs, is a wide variety of quality models. Some games have got by with 50-60 cars in the past and been great because of a huge variety.
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Bingo
What's a thousand number of cars when you won't even drive or use them all
It's worthless af
But as far as selections go they shouldn't be limited to race cars most of the time
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put it on that way 600 cars at launch and more than double after updates including DLC.... passing GT6 level roughly after 5-6 years of heavy uodates GT7 could have 1300-1400 cars about.... I hope they will start already in 2021 after GT7 release, to work on GT8 for PS5 and importing all cars from GT7 will be much easier and then create some new cars and they can at end of PS5 lifespan release GT8 or even waiting for a PS6 with GT8 (or still on ps5 depending when it's coming down the ps6 release) with all cars imported from GT7 plus many new ones so they can reach 1800 cars with 400-500 new plus the 1200-1300 of GT7 so 1800 cars at launch and with updates reach 2500 auto with a lot of duplicates but also a tons of variety and of cars of every period, nationality, type, league, motorsport etc.
And then GT9 come for PS6 in 2030-2031 with real life graphics, 8k 60fps PSVR full support, super global illumination traycing with all cars imported from GT8 so 2300 auto minimum and 300-400 new ones so 2700 cars and with updates reach the 3000+ cars which will include a quarter of the car rooster of the car models available in human history, a lot of circuits and hips of events of a game double longer in career than GT4 and GT5
Okay, maybe it was a bit exaggerate as a speculation but I had fun with it, who knows it might turn out true
And then GT9 come for PS6 in 2030-2031 with real life graphics, 8k 60fps PSVR full support, super global illumination traycing with all cars imported from GT8 so 2300 auto minimum and 300-400 new ones so 2700 cars and with updates reach the 3000+ cars which will include a quarter of the car rooster of the car models available in human history, a lot of circuits and hips of events of a game double longer in career than GT4 and GT5
Okay, maybe it was a bit exaggerate as a speculation but I had fun with it, who knows it might turn out true
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I doubt it, because if that's the case then it just seems like they're downplaying GT Sport's 'lack of Gran Turismoness' which isn't a great promotional strategy, is it?
I expect it just means Gran Turismo is back. Because it is - the latest release in the past 3-4 years. Either way, it's attention grabbing to say the least.
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Imagine Gran Turismo 10 on PS7 with real life like graphics, real life sounds, real life interiors, PSVR3 support, Advanced global illumination tracing (successor of ray tracing) at 16k 60fps and 3500-4000 cars in the game... It would be an super mega real life encyclopedia experience... I will turn old before this but imagine if it turns true.....
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The only reason GT5 & 6 had over 1000 cars is because they ported most of the ~ 7-800 PS2 assets over. With asset build quality from the PS3 era and on we haven’t yet seen more than maybe ~450 cars modeled for modern hardware in a single game. I really don’t expect the car count to be much more than 4-500 in GT7 at launch (though I’m anticipating seeing post launch support content similar to that of GTS), what I hope for is diversity and functionality out of whatever is included, and the PP system returning will immediately help with a lot of that.
Expecting much more than ~550 cars in GT7 IMO is a good way to set yourself up for disappointment.
Expecting much more than ~550 cars in GT7 IMO is a good way to set yourself up for disappointment.
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I believe that what they released wasn't everything they had. Initially it helped boost the car count, but over time they probably realized if they became more selective they could draw it out longer without putting a strain on the development. So by the time they said no significant updates, they'd probably have accumulated a vast majority of content for the next installment. Just makes more sense that way and ultimately helps keep the game fresh while saving a lot of great content for the follow on game.
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On current estimates we shouldn't expect much more than 500 cars at launch. But if PD are outsourcing some of the modelling to other studios, that number could be larger as it puts less stress on the main development team to deliver the cars. However 700 cars is totally out of the question.
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Well, officially, the last Gran Turismo of the numbered series was in 2013.
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Except if they want to continue using a slogan thats been present since 1997, they'll do it not because of what they are simulating but because its tied to the Gran Turismo Brand. Otherwise by that same logic, Red Bull should have there drink actually give you wings if they want to continue using "Gives You Wings" on their products.
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Pretty much. No shade on the ideas you are suggesting, just pointing out that should never be taken as a serious advertisement for how much of a sim the game is. It's purely a 2 decade old slogan that's simply attached to the brand.
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