Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[Bojador]

The grind would be much more bearable if we had interesting things to do that would give you good rewards. After you finish the single player stuff (which I haven’t) all there is left is custom single player races, online lobbies and daily races. The rewards we get from those are minimal compared with how much a car or a part costs.

I don’t want to grind the same race over and over but if there’s a daily race I want to partake and I don’t have the car for it I want a way to grind for it.

 

[Johnnn]

You can remove any permanent engine and weight reduction modifications by purchasing a new engine or chassis respectively.

Thanks for the info! I thought so but everything cost money and I don't have any. Good to know.

 

[Nebuc72]

So many people don't seem to understand at all there's a happy medium between the payments we have (especially now) and having enough money to buy every car in under a week.

It's not like a mutually exclusive "lots of money" or "no money" switch. They can easily adjust most events to give 1.5x more credits than what they do (and custom races need at least 2x to be worthwhile at all) and that still keeps a grind whilst not making the acquisition of credits absurdly slow.

Sure, you can race for fun, and I do, but again, it's not mutually exclusive. You can race for fun and actually get a reward for it that isn't equivalent to pennies.

 

[Famine]

The problem with people today is that they want to have everything right away.

You are aware that this is tripe, right?

There is, shockingly, a middle ground between "have everything right away" and "spend literally 14.5 hours* grinding out the same, pretty awful, race repeatedly in order to earn enough money to even get to drive just one of the 30+ high value cars the game is sold on the basis of allowing people to drive".

A lot of middle ground. Just because people don't want to spend 14.5 hours grinding out the same, pretty awful, race repeatedly (266 times, in fact) in order to earn enough money to even get to drive just one of the 30+ high value cars the game is sold on the basis of allowing people to drive doesn't mean they want everything in the game right away.

It's not one or the other, it's two extremes which are both bad (although quite why there's not an arcade mode with every car and track in it so people can, in a limited fashion, try everything out escapes me entirely).

The game needs more higher value and interesting races, in order to allow people to earn the cars in a - get this - enjoyable and timely fashion. Not right away, not every car now or in under two weeks, and not doing 266 laps, one-at-a-time, in a crap rally mode.


*Which represents two or more weeks of normal play for regular people. And until today it was 7 hours.

 

[Johnnn]

Why are the most of the persons so negative about this game... You'll play it for 7 years and everybody want to have every car at least twice in like 2 weeks...

Otherwise the payments are crap, and when they should have each car twice or more in 2 weeks they say less content...

What? Do you know what is normal? Buying a game, playing with it and then trying another one. I won't play grindfest for even one month. But I paid full price for all content I don't have access to.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

This is a bit crap. I only play online and am currently broke. I was preparing to grind high speed ring for a couple of hours to buy whatever cars I will need next week for the dailies. I’m trying to play the game but finishing mid pack in dailies pays out basically nothing. Such a predatory system blatantly designed to force spending real money; which I’m seriously considering doing because the single player is so bad that my time not to do it has a monetary value.

 

[Nagaremono]

I think the best thing they could do at this point is scrap Micro transaction altogether, bring back log in bonus and seasonal events, and implement paid DLC. Instead of having free cars, tracks, events etc. like in GTsport every month or so, users have to pay to access them. So in a way they're still able to earn revenues from their investment. Let's be frank here, videogame is a business and they're a profit making organization, they're not doing this out of good heart, they're also want to make money. A paid DLC as an alternative to MTX is fair, I think.

Weeeell....yeah, ok, but they need to give me the rest of the game first, y’know, the rest of the single-player content the career mode should already have (races and champs for Gr2, Gr1, VGT, F1500, SF, RedBull, Nostalgia etc). Just make it worth the money I’ve already paid (silly me, reading all that pre-launch guff and thinking I was buying a full game, doh...) and then perhaps let’s talk about possible DLCs.

 

[AutumnalGlow]

which I’m seriously considering doing because the single player is so bad that my time not to do it has a monetary value.

A better idea is to play something better than to give PD any MTX money. The reason they do this at all is specifically to get people to give in and pay up, exactly like this.

 

[KevinHeryanto]

I think the best thing they could do at this point is scrap Micro transaction altogether, bring back log in bonus and seasonal events, and implement paid DLC. Instead of having free cars, tracks, events etc. like in GTsport every month or so, users have to pay to access them. So in a way they're still able to earn revenues from their investment. Let's be frank here, videogame is a business and they're a profit making organization, they're not doing this out of good heart, they're also want to make money. A paid DLC as an alternative to MTX is fair, I think.

I hope not, i rather have microtransaction in the game rather than paid DLC. GT6 and GTS proves that PD can have microtranscation and a reasonable race payout while giving out free content, GT7 should aim for that.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

A better idea is to play something better than to give PD any MTX money. The reason they do this at all is specifically to get people to give in and pay up, exactly like this.

There’s nothing like it when you get good online races though so I’ll keep coming back. I need to pay a child to grind out some credits for me or something lol.

 

[Scotchboy]

I think the best thing they could do at this point is scrap Micro transaction altogether, bring back log in bonus and seasonal events, and implement paid DLC. Instead of having free cars, tracks, events etc. like in GTsport every month or so, users have to pay to access them. So in a way they're still able to earn revenues from their investment. Let's be frank here, videogame is a business and they're a profit making organization, they're not doing this out of good heart, they're also want to make money. A paid DLC as an alternative to MTX is fair, I think.

Absolutely not. If tracks are paid, that means they essentially meet with 2 outcomes - they use them in sport mode and championships, locking out players from competing or; they don't use them in sport mode and championships, meaning those who paid have very little use for the track. Ditto for if cars are paid, using them would lock out a significant share of the playerbase, or they'd go unused.

 

[tankuroded]

Absolutely not. If tracks are paid, that means they essentially meet with 2 outcomes - they use them in sport mode and championships, locking out players from competing or; they don't use them in sport mode and championships, meaning those who paid have very little use for the track. Ditto for if cars are paid, using them would lock out a significant share of the playerbase, or they'd go unused.

This part is why I suspected there were no paid cars/tracks in GT Sport.

 

[PettyWingman]

Edit: Official English announcement.

 

[KevinHeryanto]

Absolutely not. If tracks are paid, that means they essentially meet with 2 outcomes - they use them in sport mode and championships, locking out players from competing or; they don't use them in sport mode and championships, meaning those who paid have very little use for the track. Ditto for if cars are paid, using them would lock out a significant share of the playerbase, or they'd go unused.

Not to mention with how Sport mode works a DLC car can become the Meta Car, this will basically mean that Sport mode can become Pay-to-win if GT have Paid DLC.

 

[Strittan]

damn looks like you have never played gt5 or gt6

I did, but I didn’t like ‘em very much. Long time ago as well, I’ve forgotten a lot. Why?

 

[ArR29]

Absolutely not. If tracks are paid, that means they essentially meet with 2 outcomes - they use them in sport mode and championships, locking out players from competing or; they don't use them in sport mode and championships, meaning those who paid have very little use for the track. Ditto for if cars are paid, using them would lock out a significant share of the playerbase, or they'd go unused.

They can just let the players access sport mode since there are only few tracks are being used. But then again I'm just suggesting some alternative to MTX.

 

[Nagaremono]

"A serious issue has been discovered in the update 1.07, so the server maintenance will end later than previously mentioned. The time which the service is back online will be announced as the detail is clear.
We sincerely apologise for any inconvenience this may cause to you and thank you for your understanding."

This. Is. Why. Offline. Saving. Should. Be. Enabled.

Akio Morita must be spinning in his grave.

 

[ArR29]

Edit: Official English announcement.

Honestly surprised that GTSport didn't introduce a major game breaking bug despite the constant update and bug fixing. Usually when devs try to fix an issue another one will pop pup somewhere and somehow.

 

[Zlork]

You are aware that this is tripe, right?

Tripe ? Absolutely not.

The game needs more higher value and interesting races

That's what I'm saying, there will be new races or different missions over months via updates.

Gran Turismo is a long term game. I maintain it. And, I don't do the same race over and over like you do. I vary between World Circuit races and custom races.

Little money ? I don't deny it, especially for custom races. But I don't stress myself. I play, I enjoy, and the car I want will come when I can.

For me, the most important thing is that PoDi continues to offer us tracks, cars and races. And if for that, they need to put optional micro transactions then I am totally for it.

 

[Scotchboy]

Tripe ? Absolutely not.

That's what I'm saying, there will be new races or different missions over months via updates.

Gran Turismo is a long term game. I maintain it. And, I don't do the same race over and over like you do. I vary between World Circuit races and custom races.

Little money ? I don't deny it, especially for custom races. But I don't stress myself. I play, I enjoy, and the car I want will come when I can.

For me, the most important thing is that PoDi continues to offer us tracks, cars and races. And if for that, they need to put optional micro transactions then I am totally for it.

It's intensely bizarre to me that people are so openly and willingly saying they happily want to pay for things that were added for free in GT Sport. Way to throw yourself under the bus! It must be nice to be rolling in wealth.

Like yeah, creators etc. should be paid for their work... but PD clearly managed fine doing it for free in GTS, and I think the people paying the MTs currently will provide them with enough of a cash flow to not lock most of the playerbase out of new content and therefore sport mode, competitions, lobbies, etc. Most of us paid for a game, not for only a few game functions that will progressively become restricted over time if we don't keep paying more and more money. Most of us, I'd guess, also wouldn't be able to afford to keep paying for updates. We're already locked out of experiencing these vehicles and places in real life based on issues of wealth, class, etc., why would we want to replicate that digitally?

*Edit - looks like I mildly misread the last sentence as being totally for paying for updates/tracks/cars/races. Response point still has overall merit, regardless of that lapse in brain 😅

 

[Zlork]

It's intensely bizarre to me that people are so openly and willingly saying they happily want to pay for things that were added for free in GT Sport. Way to throw yourself under the bus! It must be nice to be rolling in wealth.

Like yeah, creators etc. should be paid for their work... but PD clearly managed fine doing it for free in GTS, and I think the people paying the MTs currently will provide them with enough of a cash flow to not lock most of the playerbase out of new content and therefore sport mode, competitions, lobbies, etc.

What ?

One, I don't buy any micro transactions.

And two, yes, I prefer that everyone enjoy new contents to come. All of us and free.

 

[Gommer1701]

Has it been mentioned if there is a CR. limit in the game like GT Sports 20,000,000?

 

[AutumnalGlow]

Has it been mentioned if there is a CR. limit in the game like GT Sports 20,000,000?

Yes, there's a 20M cap on free credits, no cap on MTX credits.

 

[Scotchboy]

What ?

One, I don't buy any micro transactions.

And two, yes, I prefer that everyone enjoy new contents to come. All of us and free.

I must have misunderstood your last sentence. I really genuinely thought you said you'd be happy to pay for new content/updates.

Edited my post to state my misunderstanding. I then kinda agree in part. If other people want to waste their money on MTs, fine, but I don't want it to affect my ability to progress and earn within the game or for it to become to a sort of pay-to-win mess and I don't want my not paying extra to then lock me out of updates and content. I don't like though that rewards are currently super low, the high reward events are still missing making the game short, and everything is expensive with no viable ways to earn. I'm all for the classic earning and working your way through like in prior titles, but GT7 is still missing a lot of what made playing and earning over time feel worthwhile. In light of that, lowering the rewards on the few events people can actually make money feels like a giant slap in the face especially when they're still not adding more higher paying events.

 

[GTFan24]

 

[AutumnalGlow]

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lol he better be sorry

 

[Gommer1701]

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[Canucks_9419]

I guess it is time to put some emails together for PoDi and Sony.

A quick reminder to any making posts on review sites/socials/emails that the only true way to make discussion actually resonate is to be concise and constructive in feedback about the product you purchased. I understand the frustration, but things poorly written and riddled with curse words and emojis will just be filtered out entirely. Best of luck to all.

 

[Baka_Marimo]

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I thought that was a photoshop but it turns out it's actually legit.



It's probably just an apology for the extended downtime though.

 

[Famine]

Tripe ? Absolutely not.

It is. You're verbalising an incredibly tired stereotype about millennials (and I'm Gen X, so don't try pulling the "offended millennial" card) as if it's a real thing in response to people complaining about the already pretty gruesome grind in GT7 which has now more than doubled.

Gran Turismo is a long term game. I maintain it. And, I don't do the same race over and over like you do. I vary between World Circuit races and custom races.

Weird thing to say given that you have no idea how I play the game...

... but it also savagely misses the point. The most effective way to earn money now requires 200 repeats to earn one - just one - of the high value cars in GT7. Every other way requires either many more repeats, or slightly fewer repeats but considerably more time.

Whichever way you choose to earn credits - whether you "vary between" races or not - will require dozens of repeat runs. And of course by the time you have saved up for one of these cars, which the game is sold on the premise of being able to drive, you might not be able to buy it any more.

There is a giant chasm between "spend 14.5 hours grinding this one race (or way more time grinding a bunch of others) in order to earn enough money to buy ONE high value car" and "the problem with people these days is they want everything right now". People complaining about the first thing are not people to whom the second thing applies by sheer dint of complaining about the first thing.

The game simply needs more game. There's about 20% of GT Sport's activities, on a game that could have launched with all of these races - and more, considering the 25% larger car list and four additional track locations. If it took 200 hours to get through instead of 20, like GT Sport, and had high-value late stage races, like GT Sport, nobody would be bitching about the grind. At least not yet, because they'd still be playing through the game right now.