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It's not a 400Z. Not sure how everyone got to calling it that when the Z car has always, since the very beginning, been named after the displacement of the engine. Not the horsepower. So the current Z, if people want to make up a name for it, would be more accurate as a 300Z.

From what I remember the Q50 is dead
Doesn't mean it can't be added.

Feels like if you want ANYTHING remotely BTCC associated
Doesn't have to be BTCC. Super Touring was a global category.
 
It's not a 400Z. Not sure how everyone got to calling it that when the Z car has always, since the very beginning, been named after the displacement of the engine. Not the horsepower.

Except that's NOT why I called it that? I just went off the previous naming conventions, its not that deep.
Doesn't mean it can't be added.

It could, but I don't see alot of people exactly clamoring for it (or for ANY Infiniti for that matter). As I said, I don't exactly see a massive desire for Infiniti beyond what was already included here or any other game for that matter.
Doesn't have to be BTCC. Super Touring was a global category.

While indeed it was, I get the feeling far more people are interested in the Ford Mondeos and Nissan Primeras and Audi A4s then they are of say, the Dodge Stratus:


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Likewise, I think more people would want the Honda Accord from the BTCC then they would the one from the North American Super Touring Car Championship (A series where the Dodge Stratus was the biggest factory supported effort while everyone else was just far smaller privateers AND had the unfortunate distinction of being run by the same sanctioning body that ran CART as a sideshow to said series and not as its own main thing).

Look no further then the "Super Tourers" in Grid Legends or even the "Super Touring" Car Pack in Raceroom. As far as I can tell, when people hear "Super Touring", they think BTCC.
 
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JTCC wouldn't be out of the question though. Primera, Bluebird, Corona, Chaser, Sprinter, 316(?)/320i, Exiv, aforementioned Accord, Civic.

Super Touring was a mix in GT2 anyway. We only need the road cars in GT7. I mean, that's what we've been getting to make any kind of series in this game.
 
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TCC wouldn't be out of the question though.
Or ATCC.

The point is, we're talking about the super touring category and the cars that make it what it is, not any individual series. Licensing would be strictly a manufacture thing.

And I will gladly take that Stratus, too. It would be better than another useless VGT or Toyota van.
 
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Who owns the rights to DTM? PD used those three letters for the Weekly Challenge. We've only got one official DTM regulation car and one ITR represented car.
 
Per ChatGPT:

RaceRoom Racing Experience (R3E), developed by Sector 3 Studios, holds the official license for DTM (Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters). They offer a dedicated expansion called “DTM Experience,” which includes cars, tracks, and features from various DTM seasons.





In addition to R3E, other racing games have featured DTM content, though not always under official licensing. For example, the “TOCA Race Driver” series by Codemasters included DTM cars and tracks, with “TOCA Race Driver 3” being one of the notable titles.





It’s worth noting that licensing agreements can change over time, and different games may feature DTM content to varying extents. For the most current and official DTM racing experience, RaceRoom Racing Experience remains the primary platform.
 
So, does that fall under their Super Touring licence? As I know it's STW in Europe. There were BTCC teams that competed in STW.
As posted above, the particular car licence is the issue. Would PD only get say one car from a Super Touring series other than JTCC and ATCC?

If PD add an A4, S40 and Vectra road cars. Could they them use the Super Touring label for a Weekly Challenge?
 
Different topic from the Super Touring one being discussed.

I can't remember, but what's the precedent for the silhouette teasers as regards to cars that have already been revealed?
Assuming that the January update is the standard 3 car addition, we already know 2 of them:
  • Hyundai Ioniq 5N
  • Gran Turismo F3500-A
So would they make a 3-car silhouette teaser for essentially just 1 unknown car?
 
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Different topic from the Super Touring one being discussed.

I can't remember, but what's the precedent for the silhouette teasers as regards to cars that have already been revealed?
Assuming that the January update is the standard 3 car addition, we already know 2 of them:
  • Hyundai Ioniq 5N
  • Gran Turismo F3500-A
So would they make a 3-car silhouette teaser for essentially just 1 unknown car?
Yes, January 2024 was this exact scenario (already known Genesis/Bulgari VGTs, so the only "unknown" silhouette was the kei Jimny).
 
So, does that fall under their Super Touring licence?
Nope, different race series that raced to a different set of regulations.

Prior to 93' most touring car series (including BTCC and DTM) ran under the FIA group A regs, but from 93 BTCC ran under the Super Touring (Group 2) regs and DTM ran under the Group 1 regs.

Super Touring wasn't a single licence either, but rather a set of regulations that various series ran under, with separate commercial licenses for all of those series, of which just under 20 existed.
 
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The easiest way to get Super Tourers in GT7 would be to simply license the road cars, and then add the body kits as additional visual parts like they have done with many other cars so we could make our own.

This just leaves the question of, "does Polyphony think that road going Mondeos, Stratuses, V70s, etc. are worth adding?"

I personally don't see it as likely due to the fact that PD has mostly ignored the mid 90's outside of the big name Japanese tuner cars, and front wheel drive sedans as a whole are notably absent.

I think if a Super Touring eligible machine were to come to the game a Honda Accord would be a somewhat likely option, though PD has not given the Accord line any love so far in GT7. Something akin to a Chaser would also be a likely option, considering the cars popularity in the wider tuning/drift scene, though by then the JTCC's version of the Class 2 regulations had deviated a bit.
 
As far as DTM goes, I'd really just be fine with the racing version of the Mercedes-Benz 190 E Evo II from the early 90s, plus the other three racers from the late 2010s (Mercedes-AMG C63, Aston Martin Vantage, and BMW M4) which could all join the Audi RS5 that we already have. Add in the 2024 Super GT GT500 trio and I'd call Gr.2 pretty much complete, with a few late-90s/early-00s GT1/LMGTP racers potentially joining in as well.
 
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I don't know if it's exclusive, but RaceRoom certainly licence it. They have the following DTM car packs:

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And sufficent German tracks to run them on:
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And quite wonderful it all is as well.
I think it's notable that the two DTM cars in GT both avoid the years RaceRoom have content for.

Means the AMG 190E Evo II might be a bit less likely because that's 1992 unfortunately.
 
The easiest way to get Super Tourers in GT7 would be to simply license the road cars, and then add the body kits as additional visual parts like they have done with many other cars so we could make our own.

This just leaves the question of, "does Polyphony think that road going Mondeos, Stratuses, V70s, etc. are worth adding?"

I personally don't see it as likely due to the fact that PD has mostly ignored the mid 90's outside of the big name Japanese tuner cars, and front wheel drive sedans as a whole are notably absent.

I think if a Super Touring eligible machine were to come to the game a Honda Accord would be a somewhat likely option, though PD has not given the Accord line any love so far in GT7. Something akin to a Chaser would also be a likely option, considering the cars popularity in the wider tuning/drift scene, though by then the JTCC's version of the Class 2 regulations had deviated a bit.
From the description of the Crown Athlete G ‘13, it appears PD picked this model due to being updated from previous models. It’s a model we never had in the game and at least it has some performance. It’s funny the PD write up also mentions the Crown RS. That model is the one Saitama Toyopet Green Brave made the switch to when the Mark X they raced was discontinued. PD even dressed the Crown Athlete in a faux Green Brave livery and wheel set up like their Super Taikyu machine.

Many of us do agree that PD, for some reason, are skipping a popular era of four door sport sedans.
 
I still play the first 4 GT games quite regularly on my old PS2, and even with a controller they're just so much more fun. Once you get over the downgrade in graphics, the actual gameplay - the most important aspect - all of them leave GT7 in the dust.
For my experience, no people around me ever like GT (yes, during the 2000s), as to them GT is boring and sluggish to play, arcade racers appeal them all more.
Even though you're only against 5 opponents, at least they're decently challenging,
So would you think that the GT never had a good racing or AI was a lie?
In all fairness I will say 7 is a big step up from 5 & 6 in most aspects, but it still leaves far too much to be desired to shell out thousands for a higher end rig for.
I think pretty much this too for 7, finally the other aspects of the game has returned to the PS1/PS2 era, in the tuning parts, Licenses, non-main GT mode races (e.g. Missions), car equality (e.g. Wide Body/Custom Wing for most), etc., after they minimized it in GT5/GT6 (e.g. less tuning parts, 5 Licenses), but they haven't improved the single player part other than a potential in chili races or Sophy (with grid starts).
The easiest way to get Super Tourers in GT7 would be to simply license the road cars, and then add the body kits as additional visual parts like they have done with many other cars so we could make our own.
Same looks, but not for performance. And some was featured as a Racing Modifcation for PS1 era GT, but there's below.
From the description of the Crown Athlete G ‘13, it appears PD picked this model due to being updated from previous models. It’s a model we never had in the game and at least it has some performance. It’s funny the PD write up also mentions the Crown RS. That model is the one Saitama Toyopet Green Brave made the switch to when the Mark X they raced was discontinued. PD even dressed the Crown Athlete in a faux Green Brave livery and wheel set up like their Super Taikyu machine.

Many of us do agree that PD, for some reason, are skipping a popular era of four door sport sedans.
Since PS3 era, smaller increase of cars from previous era. GT1 to GT2 was +510 cars (140 to 650) in 2 years. GT3 to GT4 was +540 cars in 3 years (181 to 721). GT5 to GT6 was only +172 cars (Premium only, 275 to 447). And GTS to GT7 (both early ver) was only +256 (168 to 424).

More car increase can mean more era representation or updated car roster.
 
I think it's notable that the two DTM cars in GT both avoid the years RaceRoom have content for.

Means the AMG 190E Evo II might be a bit less likely because that's 1992 unfortunately.
IIRC, the other games that had BMW's or Mercedes' DTM from that period scrub out any references to DTM. For instance, the BMW in Forza Motorsport 5, The Crew series, and Real Racing 3 uses a generic BMW Motorsport number plate (and refers to themselves as "M4 Racing":
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The Crew series also uses a generic "Touring Car" moniker for Mercedes' counterparts, on top of also using plain/launch liveries.
 

The Sport mode of Gran Turismo 7 will receive the following changes:

1. Nations Cup Regions Division​

Mexico, originally included in the Central & South America Region, is now included in the North America Region.

2. Driver Rating (DR) Variation Range​

The variation in the Driver Rating score after completing a Championship race will now be bigger compared to the variation after completing Daily Races.

This change will be implemented from the 'Gran Turismo World Series' 2025 Exhibition 1 – Nations Cup starting on Wednesday, 22 January.

3. Driver Rating (DR) Maximum Value​

The maximum value of the Driver Rating (DR) will be increased. This change will be implemented with the January Update.

Please continue to enjoy Gran Turismo 7!
 
We’ve known about the Jan update since beginning of December

Legit point :D
Of course hoping for some further improvements with the update.
Newer PSSR version probably. Fix the stutter when switching to the cockpit view (while PSSR and RT are enabled).
 
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