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What the hell? We literally had an update with jimny and 2 vgt cars and now an update with freaking F1 car is somehow the worst one. Doom posting is getting out of hand.
The Jimny XC and Genesis VGT was one of my favourites actually (I refuse to count it as 2 VGTs because one of the was locked away for a full month), I hope for more VGTs just to weed out the ones who dislike free updates/find a way to complain about EVERYTHING, meanwhile I am able to find ways to enjoy the new cars :lol:
 
That's a lot of personal opinions. If you try to be objective about it, this update broadens the scope of the car selection more than most.
I really was objective about it…
The F1 car is a totally unique new option, licensed or not (generic formula cars are a staple of the series, but the pros and cons of that are an entirely different topic).
The mainstream appeal would be higher if it was a licensed and significant F1 car from that era. The generic formula cars have always come across as compromises, although they may appeal to a small niche who enjoys creating multiple liveries for the same car.
The Civic is pretty unique in being the first 80s JDM compact car in the game, unless I'm forgetting something.
I think the AE86 was the first in that category. Why would the first car from a specific era and market in a specific segment even matter anyway? That’s an oddly specific measure of quality content. It’s like saying the Skoda VGT was a good addition because it was the first concept car from Czechia. Who cares.

Actually, I really like getting this particular generation of the Civic because it’s the car my parents had when I was born. However, I tried to look past this subjective appeal, which is why I said it’s kind of meh. Then again, it reflects the kind of content GT players typically do appreciate, thus it’s not too bad. Pure albeit a bit tame.
The Toyota is of course not an interesting car in itself, but it fills the gap of "current everyday road cars" which this GT has very few of. The fact it's a crossover is a reflection of the times, like it or not.

The Hyundai is in a somewhat similar category - if you don't like EVs that's fine, but it's not Gran Turismos fault that they are relevant nowadays.
“Reflection of the times” and “relevant nowadays”. That’s a big part of why they are bad additions. We live in ****** times with ****** trends. I’m not saying everything new in the automotive world is bad, but EVs and crossovers symbolize how the car industry is getting gradually more driven by political agendas and consumer needs for driving increasingly practical cars. Content like this makes GT feel like an advertizing platform for the manufacturers. I’m aware that the IONIQ 5 N has some enthusiast appeal, but not in the sense that most petrol heads are passionate about cars.
 
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The mainstream appeal would be higher if it a was licenced and significant F1 car from that era. The generic formula cars have always come across as compromises, although they may appeal to a small niche who enjoys creating multiple liveries for the same car.
Not being able to use custom liveries in the W07 (in GT Sport) arguably reduced the car's appeal/interest.
 
If one of the cars is indeed a Toyota C-HR, you can at least turn it into a newer version of everyone's favourite car to sell on GT4:

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Why would the first car from a specific era and market in a specific segment even matter anyway? That’s an oddly specific measure of quality content.
I'd argue that if GT wants to truly serve as a comprehensive collection of automotive history and culture, it needs to cover as many niche eras and car types as possible - and yes, that includes the ugly bits that people generally don't like.

A pretty egregious example of this currently not being the case is that fact that we don't have a single American car built between 1979 and 1988, and even worse, none built between 1990 and 2002. And no, I don't count the Cosworths - those are European to the core. :P
 
I'd argue that if GT wants to truly serve as a comprehensive collection of automotive history and culture, it needs to cover as many niche eras and car types as possible - and yes, that includes the ugly bits that people generally don't like.

A pretty egregious example of this currently not being the case is that fact that we don't have a single American car built between 1979 and 1988, and even worse, none built between 1990 and 2002. And no, I don't count the Cosworths - those are European to the core. :P
It's not just America either - the roster kind of trails off a lot in general in the mid-1970s after the Kenmeri Skyline and doesn't pick up again until about 1984-5.

I get it, that timespan was not the best time for the automotive industry for sure. But it's a notable gap.
 
That's a lot of personal opinions. If you try to be objective about it, this update broadens the scope of the car selection more than most.

The F1 car is a totally unique new option, licensed or not (generic formula cars are a staple of the series, but the pros and cons of that are an entirely different topic).

The Civic is pretty unique in being the first 80s JDM compact car in the game, unless I'm forgetting something.

The Toyota is of course not an interesting car in itself, but it fills the gap of "current everyday road cars" which this GT has very few of. The fact it's a crossover is a reflection of the times, like it or not.

The Hyundai is in a somewhat similar category - if you don't like EVs that's fine, but it's not Gran Turismos fault that they are relevant nowadays.
I’d say the AE86s are compact cars. Edit: That was answered already.

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About no American cars from 1979-1988. That’s where the IROC-Z Concept would fit as a returning car. Any fox-body Mustang and I guess any Chrysler offering from Dodge Omni GLH-S to Shelby Charger GLHS.
 
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It's not just America either - the roster kind of trails off a lot in general in the mid-1970s after the Kenmeri Skyline and doesn't pick up again until about 1984-5.

I get it, that timespan was not the best time for the automotive industry for sure. But it's a notable gap.

Yeah, the non-supercar mid-late70s/early 80s and non-japanese 90's eras are heavily underrepresented in current GT7 which I'd like to see filled, even if it's something non-sporting like a Chevrolet Astro or Dodge Caravan.

Personally while I have my car preferences, and cross-overs and EVs are not exactly my style, give me 3-4 of anything with a similar performance window and I'll be more than willing to create a custom race class for them.

Heck of it were not for the draconian restrictions on EVs in custom race, I'd be all for making my own "Gr.E" category
 
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I’d say the AE86s are compact cars. Edit: That was answered already.

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About no American cars from 1979-1988. That’s where the IROC-Z Concept would fit as a returning car. Any fox-body Mustang and I guess any Chrysler offering from Dodge Omni GLH-S to Shelby Charger GLHS.
And the Chevy Citation, too. They had a performance model of that, too.
 
I think PlayStation really needs Polyphony Digital to be releasing GT8 before the PS6 arrives.

We're in a place where we don't know what a lot of the other first party studios are working on, and if they do, whether they'll land before the inevitable PS6.

With the cancellation of so many of their live service games, Sony could do with a title that's guaranteed to sell at least 10 million copies to start to make up for the loss of all the cancelled stuff.

I just hope they're really making an effort with career/Gran Turismo mode...
 
Missing what ? A car that will come back for sure in a few weeks ? The feature is annoying but it is not FOMO.
I mean, it technically is as you have a time-limited window of about a week to ten days to buy the car in question before it is removed from rotation. Should you have enough money, but the car is sold out by then, it will sting, and will take a while before it returns. Chances like these come back every once in a while, so if you snooze, you lose.

And while yes, it will come back eventually, there's no way to predict when the car will return to these dealerships.

I hope one day there is an update that makes the Used and Legend Car dealerships have all cars available in their lineup where it's just like Brand Central, with an option to buy them new and on demand (e.g. with zero mileage and being able to select the car's default colors/liveries), with an option to buy them used like with the current systems.

That way the difference between the dealerships in the game would be down to the era of cars represented: Brand Central for modern cars from within 2001-present, Used Cars for older, but more common vehicles, and Legend Cars for the iconic and famous classics.
 
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I mean, it technically is as you have a time-limited window of about a week to ten days to buy the car in question
But it returns regularly, so you don't have to FOMO and you have time to get the credits (which can be long). I'd prefer those cars to be available at every time but if I can't buy it this week, I have time to plan to get the credits until it comes back.
 
Weekly Fomo events
Are 80% drawn from existing races, the other one is a custom race anyone can set up at any time, and they don't give any unique rewards that you'll otherwise miss out on.
legendary dealership...
Can't be a FOMO mechanic if (to a high level of certainty) you know it's coming back.

The only FOMO mechanic left in GT7 in its current state is Invitations. Which suck.
Do you play the game at all?
Like... at all. All your information about it seems second-hand and a couple of years out of date at best.
And while yes, it will come back eventually, there's no way to predict when the car will return to these dealerships.
Except that there is. They're just in a rotation (well... two rotations; the three trophy cars are in a more frequent cycle) and save the rare occasion where PD shuffles it slightly or buggers it up entirely (like the Escudo) it's all fairly predictable, and people have been making rarely incorrect (but sometimes out by five days) lists of upcoming cars for almost three years.

They've even started (as of about a year ago) making it even more frequent with additional "Special Picks" slots for cars featuring in upcoming events - usually the "Weekly Fomo" ones. These don't change the main rotation either.
 
Its not gt7 worst update. But the choises is quite bad. Instead of the Toyota their could be something like BMW m5 any gen, Ferrari 812 superfast, mclaren 765lt or any Audi rs models. And the update even with just 4 cars would feel less lackluster.the varity is not great here.

Sometimes pd have very strange choises.
 
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