Gran Turismo 7 Undocumented Changes Thread (Update 1.57)

[RACECAR]

Based on the original thread format by @Johnnypenso​

For every update released, there is the potential for changes not listed in the initial patch notes. Please report any undocumented changes you find in the current update and I'll update the OP as much as possible to reflect those changes found.


1. It is encouraged that you make an effort in verifying these changes as much as possible, either through videos or images.
2. If you need help from the community to verify something, don't be afraid to ask.
3. It is strongly advised that you be as specific and detailed as possible with the information including a brief description of the bug or improvement before it was fixed/changed (if applicable) and how. If English is not your first language that's ok, just do it to the best of your ability.


THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD ABOUT THE OFFICIAL CHANGES Only any changes not listed on the official site are discussed here
THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF THE UPDATE or anything else other than undocumented changes in the update. Keep those strictly to the appropriate threads:

Update (1.57)​

Documented Changes​

1. Cars
　- The following three cars have been added:
　　・Aston Martin Vantage '18 (Sold in 'Brand Central')
　　・Mazda CX-30 X Smart Edition '21 (Sold in 'Brand Central')
　　・Renault Kangoo 1.4 '01 (Sold in 'Brand Central' and at the 'Used Cars' dealership)

2. Gran Turismo Sophy
　- The next-generation racing AI agent 'Gran Turismo Sophy' has evolved into 'GT Sophy 2.1' and is available in 'Custom Races' for supported tracks and layouts.

Please note that the 'Gran Turismo Sophy' mode is only available on the PlayStation®5 version of Gran Turismo 7.

3. World Circuits
　- The following new events have been added to 'World Circuits':
　　・Brands Hatch Indy Circuit
　　　- Sunday Cup
　　・Deep Forest Raceway Reverse
　　　- European Clubman Cup 600
　　・Tokyo Expressway - Central Counterclockwise
　　　- Japanese FF Challenge 450

4. Café
　- The following Extra Menu has been added:
　　・Extra Menu No.45: 'Collection: Suzuki' (Collector Level 35)

5. GT Auto
　- Car Maintenance & Service
　　Engine Swaps are now available for the following cars (unlocked at Collector Level 50):
　　・BMW M2 Competition '18
　　・BMW Z4 3.0i '03
　　・Ford GT '06
　　・Ford GT '17
　　・Subaru BRZ S '15

6. Scapes
- 'Faroe Islands' has been added as a featured Curation in Scapes.

Other Improvements and Adjustments​

1. Cars
　- Fixed some exterior and interior details of the following car:
　　・BMW M3 '97
　- Fixed the vehicle height adjustment range of suspension parts for the following car:
　　・Mercedes-Benz Unimog Type 411 '62
　
2. Users Cars
　- Added a new sorting criteria 'By Number of Cars Owned' to the Car Valuation Service;

The ‘Car Valuation Service’ will appear after clearing Menu Book No.39 ('Championship: World GT Series') and watching the ending.

3. GT Auto
　- Wheel Shop
　　Updated it so that rim diameter, rim width, and offset settings are preserved when the currently installed wheels are selected.

4. Sport
　- Updated the Race Entry screen to include all times up to midday of the following day.

5. Controllers
　- Added support for the THRUSTMASTER® T598.
　
6. Brand Central
　- Updated the list of Official Partners. Accordingly, the tyres installed on cars are now original Gran Turismo tyres (excluding certain cars.)

7. Localisation
　- Fixed various text localisation issues.

Undocumented Changes​

 

[RACECAR]

Alright folks, third update of the year and you'll notice that this thread is sans the engine part. Why? With the engines now officially being listed in the patch notes, that became unnecessary so its back to the original 4 buttons. You know the drill though: Post changes not listed in the patch notes and be sure to post anything specific regarding discussion worthy, a new bug or physics change in the appropreate threads:

Now you may post (Once the Maintenance is done)

 

[SPOOLMAN]

Physics feel different. Will do further testing and report back

 

[Rossell2]

I'll be going straight for the Beemer this morning.

 

[tankuroded]

For Japanese language, the MiTo '09 had a missing space between model name and year in the car name added.

It was fixed at some point.
(QRT: I noticed a very small mistake in that for some reason there is no space between the model name and the year of manufacture on the Mito.)

 

[tankuroded]

The Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 has been renamed to Aston Martin V8 Vantage Gr.4, to identify it is based on the older V8 Vantage. EDIT: Not a new behavior.

Also, new paint chips from the following cars have been added:

• BMW Z4 3.0i '03 (1.56)
• Porsche 911 Turbo S (992) '20 (1.54)
• Mercedes-Benz Unimog Type 411 '62 (1.56) -- not actually named in-game on the source car?
• Peugeot 205 GTi '88 (1.56)
• Ford Escort RS Cosworth '92 (1.54)
• Toyota C-HR S '18 (1.55)
• Honda Civic Si Extra (EF) '87 (1.55)
• Hyundai Ioniq 5 N '24 (1.55)

 

[Nakano219]

The Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 has been renamed to Aston Martin V8 Vantage Gr.4, to identify it is based on the older V8 Vantage.

I think this has been the case since launch, it got renamed in the Sport -> 7 transition.

 

[PettyWingman]

The Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4 has been renamed to Aston Martin V8 Vantage Gr.4, to identify it is based on the older V8 Vantage.

Actually for its "short" name, that's been like that since GT SPORT Ver.1.23 (July 2018).
It's full name has been "Aston Martin Vantage Gr.4" since the launch of GT SPORT and the short name (shown on the most part of the game) was "Vantage Gr.4", but latter was changed to "V8 Vantage Gr.4" via that update.

 

[Mumster]

Seems like the vibration in the G29 wheel is lower when the front wheels start to slip. Before the update there was no subtlety to it, it would just be max vibration. Seems like the subtlety is back now.

 

[Ggroot]

Physics feel different. Will do further testing and report back

Physics nerfed daily Gr 3 race. Daily race B (Monza Gr 3) pre-update yesterday, my best qualifying time was ~1.51. That put me around P7-10. Today, post-update, players with that time were P1-2. My time was deleted and I couldn't do better than 1.54, but that still put me in P7-10. Tells you something.

 

[Nebuc72]

Physics nerfed daily Gr 3 race. Daily race B (Monza Gr 3) pre-update yesterday, my best qualifying time was ~1.51. That put me around P7-10. Today, post-update, players with that time were P1-2. My time was deleted and I couldn't do better than 1.54, but that still put me in P7-10. Tells you something.

Yeah it tells you there was a massive BoP change lol, not physics.

 

[stihimoss]

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Based on the original thread format by @Johnnypenso​

For every update released, there is the potential for changes not listed in the initial patch notes. Please report any undocumented changes you find in the current update and I'll update the OP as much as possible to reflect those changes found.


1. It is encouraged that you make an effort in verifying these changes as much as possible, either through videos or images.
2. If you need help from the community to verify something, don't be afraid to ask.
3. It is strongly advised that you be as specific and detailed as possible with the information including a brief description of the bug or improvement before it was fixed/changed (if applicable) and how. If English is not your first language that's ok, just do it to the best of your ability.


THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD ABOUT THE OFFICIAL CHANGES Only any changes not listed on the official site are discussed here
THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSION THREAD ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF THE UPDATE or anything else other than undocumented changes in the update. Keep those strictly to the appropriate threads:

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Update (1.57)​

Documented Changes​

1. Cars
　- The following three cars have been added:
　　・Aston Martin Vantage '18 (Sold in 'Brand Central')
　　・Mazda CX-30 X Smart Edition '21 (Sold in 'Brand Central')
　　・Renault Kangoo 1.4 '01 (Sold in 'Brand Central' and at the 'Used Cars' dealership)

2. Gran Turismo Sophy
　- The next-generation racing AI agent 'Gran Turismo Sophy' has evolved into 'GT Sophy 2.1' and is available in 'Custom Races' for supported tracks and layouts.

Please note that the 'Gran Turismo Sophy' mode is only available on the PlayStation®5 version of Gran Turismo 7.

3. World Circuits
　- The following new events have been added to 'World Circuits':
　　・Brands Hatch Indy Circuit
　　　- Sunday Cup
　　・Deep Forest Raceway Reverse
　　　- European Clubman Cup 600
　　・Tokyo Expressway - Central Counterclockwise
　　　- Japanese FF Challenge 450

4. Café
　- The following Extra Menu has been added:
　　・Extra Menu No.45: 'Collection: Suzuki' (Collector Level 35)

5. GT Auto
　- Car Maintenance & Service
　　Engine Swaps are now available for the following cars (unlocked at Collector Level 50):
　　・BMW M2 Competition '18
　　・BMW Z4 3.0i '03
　　・Ford GT '06
　　・Ford GT '17
　　・Subaru BRZ S '15

6. Scapes
- 'Faroe Islands' has been added as a featured Curation in Scapes.

Other Improvements and Adjustments​

1. Cars
　- Fixed some exterior and interior details of the following car:
　　・BMW M3 '97
　- Fixed the vehicle height adjustment range of suspension parts for the following car:
　　・Mercedes-Benz Unimog Type 411 '62
　
2. Users Cars
　- Added a new sorting criteria 'By Number of Cars Owned' to the Car Valuation Service;

The ‘Car Valuation Service’ will appear after clearing Menu Book No.39 ('Championship: World GT Series') and watching the ending.

3. GT Auto
　- Wheel Shop
　　Updated it so that rim diameter, rim width, and offset settings are preserved when the currently installed wheels are selected.

4. Sport
　- Updated the Race Entry screen to include all times up to midday of the following day.

5. Controllers
　- Added support for the THRUSTMASTER® T598.
　
6. Brand Central
　- Updated the list of Official Partners. Accordingly, the tyres installed on cars are now original Gran Turismo tyres (excluding certain cars.)

7. Localisation
　- Fixed various text localisation issues.

Undocumented Changes​

I'm having issues with true force after the update true force now only works in qualifying, what's going on pd

 

[newmedia_dev]

Physics nerfed daily Gr 3 race. Daily race B (Monza Gr 3) pre-update yesterday, my best qualifying time was ~1.51. That put me around P7-10. Today, post-update, players with that time were P1-2. My time was deleted and I couldn't do better than 1.54, but that still put me in P7-10. Tells you something.

To be fair mate I’m only 1.5s off where I was yesterday. So it’s not that massive of an update.

I do have a question the patch notes said sport mode showing times until the next day so something of that gist.

I don’t see that or mostly like just don’t understand what it means?

 

[Nakano219]

To be fair mate I’m only 1.5s off where I was yesterday. So it’s not that massive of an update.

I do have a question the patch notes said sport mode showing times until the next day so something of that gist.

I don’t see that or mostly like just don’t understand what it means?

I think this will be referring to this screen of Sport Mode championship race entry for people in time zones that make the slots cross over to a new day (furthest east parts of EMEA mainly, also possibly people whose location doesn't match their PSN account):

Though no way of confirming that for sure until Nations starts, of course.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I think this will be referring to this screen of Sport Mode championship race entry for people in time zones that make the slots cross over to a new day (furthest east parts of EMEA mainly, also possibly people whose location doesn't match their PSN account):

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Though no way of confirming that for sure until Nations starts, of course.

Makes sense now, I thought it might be cup time slot related. It’s not an issue for me as I only get 3 slots anyway at awkward times for a grown up…

Thank you 👍

 

[con360]

New paints finally!

Spoiler: Paint list!

BMW - Merlotrot Metallic
BMW - Hellrot
BMW - Maledivenblau Metallic
BMW - Toledoblau Metallic
BMW - Saphirschwarz Metallic
BMW - Olivin Metallic
BMW - Sterlinggrau Metallic
Ford - Radiant Red
Ford - Pacifica Blue
Ford - Polaris Grey
Ford - Diamond White
Honda - Rio Red
Honda - Flint Black Metallic
Honda - Pewter Grey Metallic
Honda - New Polar White
Hyundai - Soultronic Orange Pearl
Hyundai - Performance Blue Matte
Hyundai - Performance Blue
Hyundai - Abyss Black Pearl
Hyundai - Ecotronic Grey Pearl
Hyundai - Ecotronic Grey Matte
Hyundai - Cyber Grey Metallic
Hyundai - Gravity Gold Matte
Hyundai - Atlas White
Hyundai - Atlas White Matte
Mercedes-Benz - Moss Green
Peugeot - Rouge Vallelunga
Peugeot - Noir
Peugeot - Gris Graphite
Peugeot - Gris Futura
Peugeot - Blanc Meije
Porsche - Carmine Red
Porsche - Python Green
Porsche - Gentian Blue Metallic
Porsche - Midnight Blue Metallic
Porsche - Rocket Metallic
Porsche - Agate Grey Metallic
Porsche - Chalk
Toyota - Sensual Red Mica
Toyota - Radiant Green Metallic
Toyota - Nebula Blue Metallic
Toyota - Dark Brown Metallic
Toyota - Metal Stream Metallic

 

[hyperspeed980]

A pretty minor change, but nonetheless; previously, when swapping between two copies of the same car with vastly different rev limits (for example, if one was stock while the other was fully upgraded or swapped), the on-screen HUD in bumper view would keep the same rev limit. Now, this appears to have been fixed.

 

[gauntl3t]

Anyone with TGT2 losts its transducer function after the update? Yesterday was all working well, today no more vibrations from my wheelbase 😔

 

[PapaLegba]

They seemed to have nerfed the Logi G Pro wheel with this update as well.
I’m not realistically expecting it to be fixed by the upcoming Manu cup and I still desperately want to enter, but it feels terrible to drive on this wheel now.

 

[newmedia_dev]

They seemed to have nerfed the Logi G Pro wheel with this update as well.
I’m not realistically expecting it to be fixed by the upcoming Manu cup and I still desperately want to enter, but it feels terrible to drive on this wheel now.

In what way? Force? Feel??

 

[PapaLegba]

In what way? Force? Feel??

Trueforce for sure, but who knows how much more. It seems to be a problem in public lobbies, dailies included, and was for me as well. Totally dead wheel when it came to kerbs, traction, road surface, grip.
Odd thing is that it’s not occuring outside of lobbies- e.g. TimeTrials- for myself or others. Enter a daily, no force for you.

 

[ImbaSteckdose]

6. Brand Central
　- Updated the list of Official Partners. Accordingly, the tyres installed on cars are now original Gran Turismo tyres (excluding certain cars.)

This is documented, but in detail: BBS and Michelin are gone from Brand Central (Fanatec and Brembo remain), tires in the Tuning Shop are back to the unbranded designs

 

[badaboum528]

The 97 M3 now has accurrate tailights. Before the proportions off the tailights were off. Now it's great! On the other hand the 2020 911 Turbo s, the Z4 and the new Vantage don't have accurrate brake lights.

 

[PettyWingman]

This is documented, but in detail: BBS and Michelin are gone from Brand Central (Fanatec and Brembo remain), tires in the Tuning Shop are back to the unbranded designs

They're still in Brand Central, only gone from the "Partners" section.

The 97 M3 now has accurrate tailights. Before the proportions off the tailights were off. Now it's great! On the other hand the 2020 911 Turbo s, the Z4 and the new Vantage don't have accurrate brake lights.

Details:

The details of the model fixes for the E36 M3 I've found:
-The upper part of the headlights (what should I call them?)
-Oblique parting line through the taillights
-Some material color changes
-The gauge panel no longer lights up when the headlights are turned on (it lit up brightly before this update)
-The headlight dial is now set at off instead of on
-The A/C display panel etc. are now functional
-The armrest and handbrake lever are now proper LHD spec
-Now it has a passenger airbag
-The door mirror switch is now only on the driver's side instead of both sides

 

[Malkovitch]

Physics feel different. Will do further testing and report back

They definitely do. I've been practicing with the F3500 all week at Suzuka for a league race tonight. Pre update I was getting a FL of 1.36.6. After the update I'm down to 1.35.4. the car just feels a lot more planted and easier to drive. It's now only trying to kill me when I push hard.

Physics feel different. Will do further testing and report back

 

[Greycap]

Physics feel different. Will do further testing and report back

Strongly disagree, or at least it's not an uniform change. On Wednesday night I lapped Nürburgring at a low 7'01,8 and on Thursday did two high 7'01,8 times in the same car. No, there's no error there, I put three laps into a tenth and one of them was done before the update.

 

[Mafio]

Did Michelin take their tire physics with them?

 

[hawkeyez]

Physics feel different. Will do further testing and report back

Something does feel different. Sometimes if I lose the rear end of the car it feels like somebody crashed into me.

I'm having issues with true force after the update true force now only works in qualifying, what's going on pd

Yep, it’s gone, wheel feels horrible compared to before. Thanks PD.

Anyone with TGT2 losts its transducer function after the update? Yesterday was all working well, today no more vibrations from my wheelbase 😔

Yep a friend noticed the same, no vibration, said wheel feels spongy.

They seemed to have nerfed the Logi G Pro wheel with this update as well.
I’m not realistically expecting it to be fixed by the upcoming Manu cup and I still desperately want to enter, but it feels terrible to drive on this wheel now.

Yep bye bye trueforce feedback vibration, trueforce isn’t just vibration there’s a lot more to it so we have like half of our wheels FFB now.

Did Michelin take their tire physics with them?

I noticed they said something about real gran Turismo tires on all cars, the physics definitely feel different to me yet again 😡. Bragging up their game for three years yet they still can’t get it right and keep making “tweaks” breaking other things in the game. Very frustrating, especially when they could just walk away from it and leave our wheels severely nerfed. Enough is enough, they need to fix all of this stuff and just leave their game alone or they’ll wreck it completely or spend the rest of their days fixing bugs.

 

[km666]

They're still in Brand Central, only gone from the "Partners" section.


Details:

I noticed in the garage view on the ps4 '7' it shows both 'before and after' rear lights, the first view is the old incorrect style and the close up is the new correct style.

 

[SPOOLMAN]

Nah physics are 100 percent changed and for the better. Feels like the tyre model is completely overhauled using certain compounds.

Rotation is now more realistic..especially with awd cars. You are able to come off the gas mid corner and rotate the car a lot more realistically as opposed to just relying on trail braking.

Physics are more nuanced. Best way I can explain it.