Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.23 Now Available: Adds New Cars, Menu Books, Races, and Scapes

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So I was quite excited about the prospect of a new update yesterday. Like a lot of people I was a bit dissapointed. But I did win an engine to put into my ford roadster so that was a plus, if only in a straight line. I enjoyed the wtc 800 race at tokyo. All in I am not sure what I was hoping for but I'm pretty sure I didn't get it. The worst part of the new update is that the game now crashes after every race. So now, despite the fact that I do really enjoy the game, I have to find something else to play. Any suggestions would be welcome. GT is the only race game I have tried. The f1 2022 could be fun but perhaps a bit limited.
Nfs Heat is decent, and it's free on ps plus. Grid Legends and Project Cars 2 are also fun (at least for me).
 
Nfs Heat is decent, and it's free on ps plus. Grid Legends and Project Cars 2 are also fun (at least for me).
I have Grid 2019,its still good for a blast for a couple of hours.Slightly different,Ride 4 and sbk22 are good but it depends on how much you like bike racing,a bit of a niche i think.
 
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Nothing posted on here will change anything.
March 16:

March 18:
My sincere apologies for the late report to everyone.
March 25:
your voices have not gone unheard. I would like to apologise for the frustration and confusion
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March 16:

March 18:

March 25:

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ok, and what about the 6 months since March?
would also say that those changes happened beacuse the gaming press picked up on the complaints, not the complaints themselves.
haven't seen much in the last few months, game is mostly ignored now in favor of newer releases.
 
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I have Grid 2019,its still good for a blast for a couple of hours.Slightly different,Ride 4 and sbk22 are good but it depends on how much you like bike racing,a bit of a niche i think.
I heard from a lot of people that Ride 4 has insanely difficult license tests of some sort so I'm a bit put off by it. I do enjoy Ride 3 and currently downloading Ride 2 to see how the gameplay actually is since people are saying the overall gameplay is better on 2.
 
Is there a known place where we can send feedback to PD AND they are actually reading it? Somebody wrote here that the Social media channels on Twitter and Instagram are not managed by PD.
 
What about it?

The assertion was that nothing posted on GTPlanet will change anything. That's clearly untrue.
Yes, it is clearly untrue. They have been communicating for a staggering 3 weeks from launch, wow! It's now 6 months later and zero recognition that they are reading any of the posts here. I have to agree with @R1600Turbo that nothing posted here will receive any attention from now on.
 
What about it?

The assertion was that nothing posted on GTPlanet will change anything. That's clearly untrue.
I like this place, but stating that it has that much influence is just a bit hyperbolic. Are we ignoring reddit, twitter, etc?

Also, the (mostly justified) complaints have continued after those updates in March, here and elsewhere, and been largely ignored for half a year. They only paid attention close to release when there would be a greater effect from negative PR on potential sales.

At some point you realize that no one is listening and it's a waste of time & energy.
 
Yes, it is clearly untrue.
Indeed.
I like this place, but stating that it has that much influence is just a bit hyperbolic. Are we ignoring reddit, twitter, etc?
It'd be well worth ignoring Twitter; the game social media is all operated by an external company called Engage Digital Partners - which is why it often seems very badly judged (like the time they Tweeted about what people were doing with the new update... which had taken the game offline for eight hours at that point). Literally nothing you say there will have any effect on anything at all, ever. Engagement is the only relevant metric, and that goes to SIE/PlayStation, not PD. Of course some PD staff do have their own Twitter accounts too.

As for Reddit 🤷‍♂️ Absolutely no idea, although if you think the complaining on GTP about GT7 is bad, the complaining about anything at all on Reddit is worse.


GTPlanet definitely has PD staff as members (not including Tom, although Tom is also a member of PD staff), and definitely racks up hits on articles from within Polyphony Digital offices. And - although it absolutely hasn't happened since February 2020 :lol: - we speak to PD staff at live events about past articles on the site; it's not exactly rare to see them with GTP as an open tab on phones and laptops. Although it ended up as not exactly a shining period of developer/community communications, they chose GTP to host the "Ask Kaz" Q&A for a reason.

I can't say that anything anywhere has any particular influence (although I did note particular turn of phrase in the March 25th post that seemed awfully familiar), but I can, without any hyperbole or exaggeration, say that what appears on this site does reach the attention of PD. Of course there may be a difference in relevance between the forums and the news section, but I can't speak to that; I doubt PD only listens to me though :lol:

However, if you feel like it's a waste of time and energy, by all means stop wasting time and energy. Personally, I'd say complain - or praise - away.
 
Whether they are or they aren't reading, why does it matter?

Do you go on football forums and tell them to stop discussing their team and coming up with their own tactics and teams, writing critiques of the manager?
Do you go on forums for a music artist and tell people not to bother critiquing their latest song because the artist will never read it?
Heck, do you tell your mates to shut up and not bother talking to you in person about last weeks match/race/whatever event, because nobody will ever hear your review/thoughts?

Etc etc.

Nobody is doing it because they think the subject matter will read it/hear it and make a change, that's just a very slim chance that you know may be true, but most likely is not. They do it because it's a discussion forum and somewhere to write down your thoughts among others that may share the same feelings.
 
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Whether they are or they aren't reading, why does it matter?

Do you go on football forums and tell them to stop discussing their team and coming up with their own tactics and teams, writing critiques of the manager?
Do you go on forums for a music artist and tell people not to bother critiquing their latest song because the artist will never read it?
Heck, do you tell your mates to shut up and not bother talking to you in person about last weeks match/race/whatever event, because nobody will ever hear your review/thoughts?

Etc etc.

Nobody is doing it because they think the subject matter will read it/hear it and make a change, that's just a very slim chance that you know may be true, but most likely is not. They do it because it's a discussion forum and somewhere to write down your thoughts among others that may share the same feelings.
Well, the site's second-most prolific poster says it's all pointless and irrelevant, and who am I to contradict him?


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However, if you feel like it's a waste of time and energy, by all means stop wasting time and energy.
This is good advice that I do generally follow, just had a slip-up the last couple of days.
Will go back to ignoring all these update & complaint threads, everyone carry on as before.
 
Yeah, personaly i also feel that reading all the update threads is unneccesary and time consuming. I will get back to reading Praianos Tune Thread where he is beginning to modify his setups to 1.23. :-)
 
I can name a lot of game.

Ace combat, Tekken, Overwatch

I'm the same age as you and your post is BS. The perfect example why we always get screwed decades after decades.

I remember those years perfectly and games where finished when purchased (because online didn't exist back then)

In today worlds, the gaming industry is getting too much money and we all know what happens when money is there.

Greed, marketing stupid move and every goal is met to make the shareholders win more money at the expense of costumers.
I have overwatch since day one and by this date if a regular monthly update was given or out i could tell..., overwatch 2 its arround the corner, yes they added some "champions" along the way, some game modes, but mostly skins that its doesnt count has content, game have several years.., its not the same compared to Gt sport or Gt7 content not even near...

The thing about our complains is that we all hope they are filtered and are delivered to PD in some way..., but my complain was that people are to radical or extreme.

That comes in line with all the industry its not only PD or Sony, i think people dont have basic notions about game industry, they only think i payed i deserve what i want..., even if that its not possible to achieve in a modern game concerning time/complexity of modern games.

In the 80s/90s games were more basic and easy to produce, nowdays triple AAA games in some cases have 200/300 persons working every day for several years, not to mention licenses(tracks/music/brands, outsource material that adds to all that, those professionals are very well payed and to keep it that way games costs money.., even in the 90s they were expensive has hell to buy with a fraction of the cost to produce compared to today standarts.

So comparing to other racing games i think GT7 have a lot of content for the price, Iracing(rented content and expensive), ACC all content its payed and a fraction of GT7 offers from day one, Racerroom its more similar to GT but you have to pay for any extra content(cars tracks.., but better system compared to Iracing cause you keep the content).
Just some examples.

The mistake PD did was to just bad organization and planning, they should focus on improving physics/gameplay, tunning parts, after that its tunned, they had focus on delivering some new tracks and recent race cars(at least), after that focus on online structure and features only after create a single player campaign with progress..., in that campaign they had to add races/events that have all the car library in mind..., offcourse all the old content could be added easely like licences circuit experience etc, all this content at launch.

Sounds logic but what PD did..., Scapes/music rally/photo mode/ game events that have no aim or objective menu books etc a bunch of time lost in things that could be added after the game its released as extra content, that come in line with my guesses, a B-spec and a revamp campaign with progress makes sense to me, cause of the marketing and the fact that big games will come out in 2023/24.

Lets hope they put things on rails, the base its good but the way Kaz or sony influence the team direction its kind of odd.

Fm8 or Assetto corsa 2 have a open door to do all things right, so many years in development and still community its here just hope they listen to all of you / us.
 
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What a terrible update :( Empty AF.
But I see many Fanatec words in the patch note, sadly FFB seems untouched?
Gosh the FFB feels dead in this game. Same wheel in ACC on my PC is so much better, wtf PD ????

And they ruined the PP system yet again.
 
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Really disappointed with this game, it is not doing anything to improve. Why should people play? What's the reasons why we should play GT7? I really do not understand what PD have in their mind. The only event you can play is multiplayer, but you only have 3 races every week, why don't they increase the number of daily races?
 
Really disappointed with this game, it is not doing anything to improve. Why should people play? What's the reasons why we should play GT7? I really do not understand what PD have in their mind. The only event you can play is multiplayer, but you only have 3 races every week, why don't they increase the number of daily races?
Also the single fortnightly time trial. Other similar games have multiple daily, weekly and monthly TTs/community events.

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Yes, it is clearly untrue. They have been communicating for a staggering 3 weeks from launch, wow! It's now 6 months later and zero recognition that they are reading any of the posts here. I have to agree with @R1600Turbo that nothing posted here will receive any attention from now on.
Everybody knows that PD is absolute garbage when it comes to interacting with the community. You can't be that naive and say this site has 0 influence. Just because Kaz doesn't go on record saying "Thank you GT planet for bringing the Tomahawk exploit to our attention", doesn't mean it wasn't an influence on patching it. The only thing we get from him is a crappy picture of 3 unknown cars, 2 days before they release.
 
Do you, by any chance, mean the French word "voila" (meaning "there it is"), rather than the Arabic word "wallah" (meaning "by Allah"), or the general Indian languages word "wallah" (also "wala" and "walla", meaning "person who does things")?

Of course that’s what I meant, but I’m going to choose to leave it. If nothing, to help drive my delusions home.

Btw, just like you’re articles, it’s unbelievable how quick to the scene ye’ are.

And of course PD pays attention to this forum. Probably ever major title company does. GTP is the juggernaut of SimRacing websites





@Samus. Chandler is the best! After all these years, I still haven’t figured out what he does for a living.
 
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You're lucky you're an administrator or he'd probably have blocked you as well by now.
I have nothing against any member excercising thier right to use the block function, however, I would much rather be able to discuss topics even from polar opposite viewpoints in a reasonable manner with them.

But if someone wants to block me or anyone else for whatever reason then go for it. But if they block you or not, everyone is as entitled to their view as each other provided that view doesn't object to opposing views being voiced.

@Samus. Chandler is the best! After all these years, I still haven’t figured out what he does for a living.
He's a transponster of course.
 
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I heard from a lot of people that Ride 4 has insanely difficult license tests of some sort so I'm a bit put off by it. I do enjoy Ride 3 and currently downloading Ride 2 to see how the gameplay actually is since people are saying the overall gameplay is better on 2.
Its not a licences test,its a`hot lap`you have to get bronze to progress.I didnt think they were any harder than the GT licence tests,i managed a few silver timse but never a gold time,once into career theres a lot to do,different classes of bikes to race etc.I wouldnt pay full price for the game and DLC but i bought the special edition,which comes with 95% of all the DLC packs,when it was on pS sale for £20.00 which was a bargain.
Ive not played Ride 2 but i have the original Ride and 4 is harder to control than the original,its not massively worse just different and takes a bit of practice to get used to it but i like it a lot.Lots of liveries to download and mess around with too.
SBK22 is a bit harder and it only contains the superbike class,no support classes,but its only £30.00.
 
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