Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.55 is Now Available: Physics Changes, Four New Cars, and More

[Tommy_D]

There's certainly nothing realistic about paying 52k for an S13. I can buy one of those (well the US market version, but still) for 8k used. cars that would otherwise be realistically in the 10k range are over 50k in this game. Tells us a lot about the market value of "credits".

I’m not sure who would ever pay 470k for a DeLorean, but that’s how much a used one costs in this game. But it’s totally fair that when you want to sell your DeLorean that you can only get 272k for it.

The used car dealership must be run by the mob.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I’m not sure who would ever pay 470k for a DeLorean, but that’s how much a used one costs in this game. But it’s totally fair that when you want to sell your DeLorean that you can only get 272k for it.

The used car dealership must be run by the mob.

Same as GTA I guess.

 

[05XR8]

I’d say in original pristine condition that’d be about right. Here, in Australia good look trying to find one stock.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/nissan/silvia/

The least expensive one there at $26,000 AUD, converts to about $16,000 USD.

These are Hagerty guesstimates.

From October last year:

This Nissan 240SX Survived the Rise of Drifting to Become a Collectible Classic - Hagerty Media

This Nissan 240SX isn't just a time capsule from the era before crossover bloat. It's a survivor of the drifting boom.

www.hagerty.com

Hagerty’s average quote value for the S13 240SX is $15,600, holding pretty steady over the past couple of years. Average prices at auction are above $20,000 now, and the car is mostly popular with Gen X and younger owners. Watching Supra, RX-7, and Skyline values climbing, it’s not hard to see that the 240SX represents a stable investment that’s also really enjoyable to drive.

November last year:

1990 Nissan Silvia Q's Diamond VIN S13139711 | Hagerty Valuation Tools

Have you seen this 1990 Nissan Silvia Q's Diamond VIN S13139711 auction result?

www.hagerty.com

A workmate, about 15 years ago, had a bone stock green S13 coupe w/automatic that his rally driver father handed down to him. It was bought nearly new. I think even that would be in the $50,000 AUD($31,000 USD) range today.

 

[venom85]

I’m not sure who would ever pay 470k for a DeLorean, but that’s how much a used one costs in this game. But it’s totally fair that when you want to sell your DeLorean that you can only get 272k for it.

The used car dealership must be run by the mob.

In GT7, the Mercedes Benz 196 W costs "only" 20 million. In 2022, it was auctioned for 135 million. I'm glad it only cost 20 million in the game.
But yes, so much for the game being based on original prices.

 

[Sir Crashalot]

The prices are generally intended to be in a semi-realistic price range, and the yen is much weaker than USD/EUR/GBP, so it would look extremely cheap and unrealistic to a Japanese player who had previously seen GT prices in sort of yen level prices.

But it's just Japan, correct? So for example, in Hungary prices are still the same as for US/EU while the Hungarian Forint currently equals €0.0025.

 

[CarreraGT]

This has been said a few times already, but I'm really liking how much more neutral cars feel on the limit with the physics changes.

Turn 2 at Bathurst is a great example. If you carried too much speed previously, the car would just understeer straight towards the wall, or snap oversteer. Now, all 4 wheels will slide and you can just grab another gear and power through it.

Previously it was either violent oversteer or violent understeer, now there seems to be a good middle ground between front and rear grip.

 

[VinylRichie]

In GT7, the Mercedes Benz 196 W costs "only" 20 million. In 2022, it was auctioned for 135 million. I'm glad it only cost 20 million in the game.
But yes, so much for the game being based on original prices.

That’s not the one in the game, what you mean is the 300 SLR Uhlenhaut Coupé, this one was sold for around 135 Million Euros, the one in the game is a Monoposto and the only thing I found was an auction from 2013 where it got sold for around 19 million pounds, which makes it pretty accurate.
And 20 million is the highest in the game if you didn’t know, there’s nothing going over it because it would be too much for anybody to reach (even the 20 mill are pretty hard to get).

But yeah these cars like the DeLorean and the NSX also if i remember correctly, are priced too high compared to their real worth, but I think they didn’t wanted too make them too easy to obtain and feel that they are worth more to them or something like that.

 

[Cat Power]

I think the new F 3500 is perhaps the best car on GT7 now, IMO of course.
However surely the AI needs to be altered to be faster.
I am not an expert driver but even on professional in a custom race I (starting last) i find it too easy to catch up to 1st place but then it's a good fight with them.

 

[venom85]

That’s not Vorrecht, what you mean is the 300 SLR Uhlenhaut Coupé, this one was sold for around 135 Million Euros, the one in the game is a Monoposto and the only thing I found was an auction from 2013 where it got sold for around 19 million pounds, which makes ot pretty accurate.
And 20 million is the highest in the game if you didn’t know, there’s nothing going over it because it would be too much for anybody to reach (even the 20 mill are pretty hard to get).

But yeah these cars like the DeLorean and the NSX also if i remember correctly, are priced too high compared to their real worth, but I think they didn’t wanted too make them too easy to obtain and feel that they are worth more to them or something like that.

That's right, it wasn't 135 million, it was sold for around 51.2 million.

Das ist das zweitteuerste Auto aller Zeiten

51.155.000 Euro – für diese Summe hat ein nicht genannter Bieter diesen Mercedes W 196 R Stromlinienwagen versteigert. Warum ist er so wertvoll?

www.autobild.de

My mistake.
And yes, it was the streamlined version and not the one with the free-standing wheels. But it's the same car, just with "aerodynamic changes".
But even 51 million for a car in the game would be too much grinding for me.
I also don't understand why they still haven't increased the value of their purchase tickets. e.g. 20€ for 20 million Cr..
Who spends 20€ for a measly 2 million Cr.???

 

[Nielsen]

Not sure what to think about the new physics yet. Drove two cars around Nordschleife today and had very different experiences.

The first one was the '58 Corvette with a basic street tune (sports suspension & brakes, sports air filter, custom ECU, semi racing exhaust & clutch, CS tires). Awful, just awful. A mix of understeer and snap oversteer and lots of sliding, no fun at all. Sure, the C1 never was the most easy car to drive but I don't think it ever felt as bad before.

Then I took the Honda RA272 (completely stock) around the track and it was amazing! Before the update this was always an "ok" car for me, but today it felt much better then before. I can't point the finger at what exactly makes the difference, it just feels better and more fun to drive. Suspension? Tires? Probably both. Not sure about the brakes though. They still lock up pretty quick. But maybe a bit less then before.

In this scenario it’s not exactly strange that the F1 car feels better.

 

[VinylRichie]

That's right, it wasn't 135 million, it was sold for around 51.2 million.

Das ist das zweitteuerste Auto aller Zeiten

51.155.000 Euro – für diese Summe hat ein nicht genannter Bieter diesen Mercedes W 196 R Stromlinienwagen versteigert. Warum ist er so wertvoll?

www.autobild.de

My mistake.
And yes, it was the streamlined version and not the one with the free-standing wheels. But it's the same car, just with "aerodynamic changes".
But even 51 million for a car in the game would be too much grinding for me.
I also don't understand why they still haven't increased the value of their purchase tickets. e.g. 20€ for 20 million Cr..
Who spends 20€ for a measly 2 million Cr.???

While yes, it is the technically the same car, there’s a big difference still as it is another Body type, and it comes also to what races these cars won, who drove them or what kind of status these cars have for people, is the monoposto or the streamline one the car most people have a connection to or remember.
The Uhlenhaut is technically also the same car, it’s also a W196, but it still sold for more than 80 million dollars more than the streamline race car.
But yeah, I’m cool with 20 million as the highest a car can cost in the game, but nothing more.
Maybe they would make more money out of microtransactions if the prices would be more reasonable, but on the other side I think people would be too quick to buy credits then and would ruin the game for themselves, and maybe this would hurt GT as a franchise in the longrun.
I for myself wouldn’t spend one cent on MTX in this game, that would take away a lot of motivation for me and the proudness I feel looking at my collection.

 

[Theufcveteran]

There's certainly nothing realistic about paying 52k for an S13. I can buy one of those (well the US market version, but still) for 8k used. cars that would otherwise be realistically in the 10k range are over 50k in this game. Tells us a lot about the market value of "credits".

There are outliers but a good amount of the cars are based on, or use real world prices as an estimate, no? I swear I remember seeing someone talk about the pricing of a specific car in the game as similar to the market value at the time. And the legend cars which IIRC are based on actual Hagerty valuations? If not then they probably stick with the current way in Japan so it looks at least sort of realistic for folks who are used to yen prices.

But it's just Japan, correct? So for example, in Hungary prices are still the same as for US/EU while the Hungarian Forint currently equals €0.0025.

True, indeed, I didn’t think about that. Maybe they just split it between west and east using the biggest currencies in that region (yen for the east because it’s a Japanese game).

 

[Revengel]

Spoiler: Another one of my old posts . . .

Oh, I can totally confirm this is pretty widespread. Tried the Lancia Stratos last night which is a car so crazy Harley Quinn thinks the thing is nuts. Anyway, it's very nimble but not a psychopaths dream!

I'm going to have fun tonight going through my garage and finding the most Daffy Duck channeling cars and taking them out for a spin.

Manual w/ a stick only.

Ok, I'll go back into my box.

Last night it was the Alpine 110's turn . . . and I am fully convinced that these physics changes are gigantic on the edges for cars like this. Took it to Alsace (all-sauce?) and while I can still get out of sorts . . . the car feels more manageable.

For all these cars I'm going stock.

There's certainly nothing realistic about paying 52k for an S13. I can buy one of those (well the US market version, but still) for 8k used. cars that would otherwise be realistically in the 10k range are over 50k in this game. Tells us a lot about the market value of "credits".

In GT7, the Mercedes Benz 196 W costs "only" 20 million. In 2022, it was auctioned for 135 million. I'm glad it only cost 20 million in the game.
But yes, so much for the game being based on original prices.

I know the 196 W bit was addressed earlier in the string, but a '62 Ferrari GTO sold in 2023 for north of 51 million.

I don't see folks clamoring that this car should cost more.

We have a balance. A number of cars that should cost more, don't. Other cars cost a great deal more than we expect. All the cars in this game arrive with no mechanical/cosmetic issues and can be driven to the limit. I have yet to see someone total a car - damaged beyond repair - in Gran Turismo.

One way to think of the higher price is you not only are getting a pristine copy of the car, but you have a lifetime of repair options.

All that and look at how quickly you can earn credits in the game. If I could earn $8k for 8 minutes of work . . .

I'd have an Only Fans.

 

[Nebuc72]

Last night it was the Alpine 110's turn . . . and I am fully convinced that these physics changes are gigantic on the edges for cars like this. Took it to Alsace (all-sauce?) and while I can still get out of sorts . . . the car feels more manageable.

For all these cars I'm going stock.

Pretty much everything is flat and easy to drive now. I took out a stock superbird and it just feels like driving an unremarkable car. A lot of things overall just seem easier to drive.
I don't know what's more realistic in terms of how these cars are suppoed to behave but it feels weird to have a Superbird squealing through corners, burning up rubber on throttle, whilst all it is doing is driving wise is understeering. Didn't have the rear kick out on me once. I find it all very disappointing.