I can't imagine Poly making something that beautiful and detailed. It's not a matter of money or skill, I just don't understand why we can't be impressed like we used to with GT1, GT3 or GT5 prologue.Forza Horizon 3/4/5 run at 30fps on base XboxOne so they're able to pack in more graphical detail than GTSport, Forza 7, or GT7 PS4 where 60fps is required for base last-gen consoles.
At this point for next-gen though, the amount of detail and consistent graphics is going to come down to man-power, and I wouldn't be surprised if Playground were able to also make higher detailed assets for next-gen with outsource help.
Polyphony is going to get left behind again if they think they can compete with massive outsource teams helping make environment props, vegetation, buildings, rocky cliffs, etc. So yeah, PS5 GT7 is still most definitely going to be held back graphically by the PS4 version just based on the fact that PD will try to create all of the tracks by themselves as a <200 man team, meaning they'll just create assets that can run on the lowest base console and will just up the resolution for the PS5 port. We've already seen the massively inconsistent results with various tracks in GTSport, so good luck to Polyphony competing with the consistent level of detail in FH5 and releasing the game in a timely manner.
Here's an outsource worker who helped work on FH4.
Probably because Kaz is stuck with old friends and employees from 1997. They all, Kaz included, don't know how to evolve and innovate (unlike Playground and T10).
You do know that most of the stuff we post here are opinions, right? That is also why my first word on my comment is "probably". That is what I believe and there is nothing, except real visual evidence, that will make me think otherwise.
Personally I view it as a negative, games should in general move on with the technology, particularly AAA titles. Releasing on older technology will never make your game better, but it can make it not as good as it could/should be.
With Hermen Hulst being on the board of directors at Polyphony now, maybe he can talk Kaz into getting outsource help for environments too, at least for the fictional tracks.
Hermen was the managing director at Guerilla Games who rely heavily on outsource art. Guerilla used 18 different outsource companies to help make Horizon Zero Dawn. Horizon was one of the best looking games on PS4, and Horizon 2 easily outclasses it as well. Their experiences with outsourcing are pretty much summed up with this:
It still takes a bit of time to prepare all of the specs and briefs to give to the outsource companies, but in the end it's way more efficient than trying to do everything in-house with Polyphony's limited man-power.
The interview showed me everything about him. None need this in-phrase-speaking guy and doing a massive confusion. I repeat, who needs him? No one, acting like an amateur.With Hermen Hulst being on the board of directors at Polyphony now, maybe he can talk Kaz into getting outsource help for environments too, at least for the fictional tracks.
Hermen was the managing director at Guerilla Games who rely heavily on outsource art. Guerilla used 18 different outsource companies to help make Horizon Zero Dawn. Horizon was one of the best looking games on PS4, and Horizon 2 easily outclasses it as well. Their experiences with outsourcing are pretty much summed up with this:
It still takes a bit of time to prepare all of the specs and briefs to give to the outsource companies, but in the end it's way more efficient than trying to do everything in-house with Polyphony's limited man-power.
I hope you're right. We'll see in the next trailer because so far GT7 looks the least impressive big next gen game. Forza 8 looked "too good" last year but after the FH5 reveal, I can believe this was in engine.With Hermen Hulst being on the board of directors at Polyphony now, maybe he can talk Kaz into getting outsource help for environments too, at least for the fictional tracks.
Hermen was the managing director at Guerilla Games who rely heavily on outsource art. Guerilla used 18 different outsource companies to help make Horizon Zero Dawn. Horizon was one of the best looking games on PS4, and Horizon 2 easily outclasses it as well. Their experiences with outsourcing are pretty much summed up with this:
It still takes a bit of time to prepare all of the specs and briefs to give to the outsource companies, but in the end it's way more efficient than trying to do everything in-house with Polyphony's limited man-power.
Pretty much every forum on the Internet is like this, though, as I've learned over the years. Some spots of warranted positivity here and there, but a forum is mostly filled with pessimists, people lost in hopelessness, complaining over the tiniest irrelevant details, baseless theorists. etc etc.
Doing everything in-house is an outdated ideology. So many things in today's world require outsourcing and turning a blind eye to it will not help PD's cause in any way. Kaz' fussiness will be the death of him and his beloved company if he doesn't evolve with the times. He has to harness outsourcing in order to keep his workers healthy and his games entertaining. It's a no brainer.With Hermen Hulst being on the board of directors at Polyphony now, maybe he can talk Kaz into getting outsource help for environments too, at least for the fictional tracks.
Hermen was the managing director at Guerilla Games who rely heavily on outsource art. Guerilla used 18 different outsource companies to help make Horizon Zero Dawn. Horizon was one of the best looking games on PS4, and Horizon 2 easily outclasses it as well. Their experiences with outsourcing are pretty much summed up with this:
It still takes a bit of time to prepare all of the specs and briefs to give to the outsource companies, but in the end it's way more efficient than trying to do everything in-house with Polyphony's limited man-power.
I mean, PD already outsourced stuff if statements from outsourcers (S660, Raptor, 993 RS CS) are anything to go by...
It's a start but more work needs to be done; not just on the cars but on environments and other assets.
That's partly because of the quality of the graphics. Although FH5 is cross-generation, it has a graphic that is almost exclusively for next-generation consoles. But for now, the GT7 trailer has almost the same graphics as the GT Sport.
