Gran Turismo 7 Was The Second-Best Selling Game in March 2022
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GT7 returned to No.3 in the UK retail charts as new PS5 stock hit the shelves. Sales up 152% on last week.
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Metacrtic user scores where over 9,500 when the economy issue was in the headlines. Today user scores number just 10,310. That tells me A/ Only a minuscule proportion of buyers leave a review. B/ Most previous comments where little more than review bombing and trolling.
I get the overriding impression some are looking for confirmation bias GT7 was a failure. Yet commercially it’s on course to be one of the best selling releases in the series. With very positive sentiment. The kind I’ve not seen since the PS2 era.
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I always find comments like this quite bizarre. The response to GT7 is overwhelming positive on platforms like Twitter, Resetera, Neogaf, YouTube etc. At least once the economy issues where sorted. This is backed up by continued impressive sales.
Metacrtic user scores where over 9,500 when the economy issue was in the headlines. Today user scores number just 10,310. That tells me A/ Only a minuscule proportion of buyers leave a review. B/ Most previous comments where little more than review bombing and trolling.
I get the overriding impression some are looking for confirmation bias GT7 was a failure. Yet commercially it’s on course to be one of the best selling releases in the series. With very positive sentiment. The kind I’ve not seen since the PS2 era.
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There is also people like myself who really enjoyed the game when I first started playing it.GT7 returned to No.3 in the UK retail charts as new PS5 stock hit the shelves. Sales up 152% on last week.
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I always find comments like this quite bizarre. The response to GT7 is overwhelming positive on platforms like Twitter, Resetera, Neogaf, YouTube etc. At least once the economy issues where sorted. This is backed up by continued impressive sales.
Metacrtic user scores where over 9,500 when the economy issue was in the headlines. Today user scores number just 10,310. That tells me A/ Only a minuscule proportion of buyers leave a review. B/ Most previous comments where little more than review bombing and trolling.
I get the overriding impression some are looking for confirmation bias that GT7 was a failure. Yet commercially it’s on course to be one of the best selling release in the series. With very positive sentiment for the series. The kind I’ve not seen since the PS2 era.
But then the game just finishes at the end of the Cafe menu's (which feel like a tutorial) and there is nothing left to do.
The online lobbies are still somehow broken and its frustrating that PD have not worked on the rubbish penalty systems from GT Sport.
GT7 has all the potential to be the best GT ever but in its current state... its somewhere near the bottom.
This game was sold to us via its pre-release advertising.. that it was the most complete GT game in the series and was a glorious return to its former glory... but it got released as an incomplete, broken mess.
Most would argue that with all of the development time PD have had, more tracks and cars should have been available on release and considering how obvious it was that this game used GT Sport as its base... it should be working at least at the same level as GTS but in terms of Multiplayer, its severally lacking.
Not to mention how every design decision around economy was based on a Free to Play model, trying to push more people into buying overpriced MTX... There have been some improvements to this but they still have a lot of work to go... (changes to custom race, sport race and lobby credit payouts plus the ability to sell cars)
The AI. ugh. You know its bad when PD were doing damage control on this before the game was even released by announcing Sophy for a future update.
Gt7 is likely to become the best GT ever. Its a sad thing that its going to take a few years for PD to drip feed all the content that really should have been there on launch.
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Comparing GT7 to older GT's.... I can't comprehend how anyone would say that it's good for its time?
Its like quality of games is supposed to reduce over time, not improve....
And people are ok with considerably less content as time goes on?
Genuinely.. if people accept this and are ok with it.. by the Time GT12 comes out, it will be $500USD, come with one track and 3 cars.
It will take 1000 hours to unlock the 2nd track and car, or pay $2,000USD to skip the grind.
PD Will then release an update, trying to tell everyone that its for the players benefit... making it so it now takes 2000+hours of grinding to unlock the second track...
I personally thought as time went on, people would expect higher levels of finish and more content... but I guess that makes me... greedy?
You are quite wrong."Gran Turismo 7 Was The Second-Best Selling Game in March 2022"
Proving yet again, that the consumer is thick as ****....Nothing changes. The people are still sheep. The elites rule the world. You still do as you're told.
I purchased a game out of my own volition and thoroughly enjoy my buy.
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This is both, respectless and also in both cases wrong. How do you come up with this nonsense of he beeing evil? He is the boss of a big company, of course he is looking for a economic sucesses. Thats not evil, thats normal! And the second point... C'mon... I can't take this serious.
Eccentric??
He is far off beeing excentric. I guess you don't know that this word means He is just 55, why and it is not the case, that he does GT by him alone. Also... why should be "young blood" directly be better than experience?The point is GT7 should be better than a game released 18 years ago in EVERY way. It's not.
Oh and yes, I do think the track list is better in GT4. Not graphically, obviously, but the tracks themselves. It helps that so many of them were brand new and exciting, not just entirely copied from old games. So there is another thing GT4 did better.
Le Mans
Fuji
Infineon
Nurburgring
Suzuka
Tsukuba
Motegi
El Capitan
Citta di Aria
Costa di Amalfi
Paris
Hong Kong
New York
Seoul
Cathedral Rocks
Chamonix
Grand Canyon
Ice Arena
Those were all brand new to GT4.
Reminder, this is the list of new to GT series tracks in GT7:
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K. Why though? A letter seems like one of the the least effective possible ways to try and influence Polyphony.
Er, what exactly do you think eccentric means? It's nothing to do with age, for starters.Eccentric??
I struggle to comprehend how anyone can objectively say a title like GT4 is superior to GT7. Certainly not if they’re interested in sim racing accuracy and car culture.
I remember driving a ‘thundering’ Panoz GTR-1 that sounded like a hoover. With simplistic physics, jumping over chicanes, and competing against Pikes Peak cars with 1500bhp+. I could pick any prototype, from any era, and they all drove and sounded identical.
Today each new car in GT7 feels special. It drives and sounds accurately. And you have the most incredible tuning options I’ve seen in a sim. I can then take that car onto 100% realistic tracks, with dynamic weather, and have an experience that’s leagues above what old GT’s delivered.
Each to their own I guess. But I wouldn’t even entertain playing any GT pre GTS. The leap in technology and sim accuracy is far too large to ignore.
We’re now in May - 2 months post launch. GT7 continues to place highly across global charts. Particularly the UK & EU. The title is highly regarded with very positive word of mouth."Gran Turismo 7 Was The Second-Best Selling Game in March 2022"
Proving yet again, that the consumer is thick as ****....
A few loud voices on GTP seem intent on trying to spin a negative narrative with increasingly ridiculous statements.
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All of those things are pointless if you don't have a campaign to play...
In terms of content... Gt7 is currently the worst by an absolute mile (comparing it to GTS in its current state)
Gt4 had like 50 tracks and Gt7 has like 60 odd?
Gt5 had over 700 cars and Gt7 has 430 odd..
Speed runners have literally completed GT7's campaign in under 3hrs. There is no possible way of doing that in any other previous GTs, they all take hundreds of hours.
If I was forced to play either GT7 or GT4 for 3 months of my life... I would pick GT4 in a heartbeat due to how boring GT7 gets after 10 hours of gameplay
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How are they pointless? I have never really cared for the campaign, but I certainly enjoy the graphics, physics, customisation, variable weather etc. every time I play GT7. Between time trials, custom races, drifting etc. I've got enough content to last years without getting bored.
Also I'm pretty sure 60 is a bigger number than 50...
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I just played GT4 for over 3 hours last night; it's amazing how much better it is at being a "game" while still not feeling very arcade-like given its age. Weird how I didn't have to install 40 patches to get all of the content either!
Only thing I've done in GT7 for two weeks is run the Tomahawk around Tokyo 1-2x, get my crappy roulette ticket, then close it out and play other things. As soon as I grab the remainder of the LCD cars, I'm done with this game for at least a few months.
Remember the big update PD claimed we were getting at the end of April? What did it consist of: a race and three cars... Even that is being generous; one was a re-badge of a car we already have, the other is an old kei car for all the highly popular kei car races we have, lol. GT300 car? Hell yes. Keep doing this, just increase the output by 5-10x. And open your damned wallet and re-license JGTC content so we can have real GT300/500 and Super GT instead of "Gr. 3", et al.
My point being that it's going to be a LONG time before this game is anywhere near where it should have been at launch. I used to joke that the game would be ready for launch once they release the "Spec II" version, but after seeing April's update, it looks more like GT7 will be ready for launch when they copy/paste everything and release it as GT8 in 5-6 years; they MIGHT have enough content for a proper numbered GT entry by then. 3 cars, 4-5 races in a month is fine for a feature-complete game. But when your new game is a 95% carbon-copy of the previous, that's just pathetic, especially when the primarily online game being copied had far more offline content than your new "return to the series roots" release.
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Really!?!? I'm shocked. And you seem like such a nice fella.
GT7 is a long way above what past GTs have delivered. If that's the only bar that you're measuring it against, you're going to be very happy.
It's not particularly spectacular for people who have been playing other racing games for the last 10 or 15 years, particularly simulations. That's where the GT4 comparison comes in - in it's day GT4 was pretty highly regarded among all the games available, PC sims included. If people have been playing all the other games in the space since GT6 came out, GT7 doesn't really offer much they haven't seen before and probably done better.
I've been able to drive cars that feel unique and drive and sound accurate in other sims for years. They have great tuning options, as well as more advanced features like live telemetry and (I'm sorry but Gran Turismo deserves this little stab in the back) tyre pressures. I've been driving laser modelled tracks with dynamic weather, dynamic track condition and far superior AI for a long time now.
If GT7 is your first exposure to these things then it must seem great, but this is the sort of stuff that was state of the art in the simulation space about ten years ago. By five years ago it was highly refined in most of the games that implemented it. These are mostly considered pretty basic features of a sim in 2022. GT5 and GT6 really didn't progress much at all in a time when other games and sims were adding lots of new technology, leaving GT7 in a position where it had a long way to catch up in a lot of areas.
Maybe this is inevitable, maybe we'll never see another racing game that is as much of a complete experience as GT4 was. Maybe it's just impossible to be the best or nearly the best in all those different areas of gameplay and technology like GT4 was back then. But I think that's what a lot of people hope for - they want to see another Gran Turismo that is hands down the answer to "if you could only buy one racing game, what should it be?" Because GT7 is fine, but it's not that for anywhere near the number of people that GT4 was in it's day.
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How are they pointless?
Imagine having the best looking game, the best sounding game and the best physics EVER in GT8.
But it only has 5 hours worth of content to use of these amazing features.
Its pointless and almost be a complete waste of time - It would essentially be a demo...
A vast majority of gamers would prefer to rock up to game with "great" of everything listed above and have thousands of hours worth of gameplay.
Yeah man - you got me.. I thought 50 was bigger than 60! eyeroll lol.
Im not one of those "GT4 is the best GT" ever people btw - it was you who brought up GT4
My point is - GT7 was released incomplete and broken.
It has a tutorial mode called cafe and absolutely nothing after it. There is no need to acquire all of your license as the top couple teir licences weren't required to enter any events.
The content - is so badly lacking that it could only be redeemed by having a great online lobby system that you play with mates on... but that's not even close to being complete or even functioning.
Im glad that some people like you are happy to polish a turd and search out ways to find fun in Gt7.
What you describe.... You have to make your own races, with pathetic ai... to win a minuscule amount of credits.. When all previous GT games come with release content that can do that and keep you entertained for hundreds -> thousands of hours - all while earning a bunch of credits to buy readily available cars (without time gates and locking content behind rng)
Gt7 has all the bones to be the greatest GT - Ive been saying this from the start - but its currently an incomplete mess.
PD need to stop drip feeding the content they have banked up and release it all now so this game no longer feels like a Beta.
Since we all know that wont happen - we need to wait 2-3 years for all of this content to be drip fed before this game actually becomes the most complete GT as it was advertised as...
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You lost all credibility when you used the word "broken"...
I only mentioned GT4 in response to someone else's comment. GT has always been about the cars. Collecting cars, tuning cars, photographing cars. Saying that there is only 5 hours of content (i.e. campaign races only) is missing the point entirely
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Explain to everyone how well custom online lobbies are working without using the word broken, or any synonyms of the word then...
Explain to the thousands of people who saved data was corrupted the same thing...
Explain how the economy was/ is perfect including before and after any patches....
I think its you, yourself, who is lost... not my "credibility" lol
I also said - imagine if GT8 comes with only 5 hours content....
To counter your terrible argument of the improved graphics, physics and sound.. while do do add to a game, they 100% don't make a game. A great example is "Art of Rally" - a great game with basic graphics.
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Saying that it's always been about the cars seems like it's missing the point entirely as well. The cars are and always have been an important part of the game, but just as important has been all the things you can do with the cars. That's why Gran Turismo is more popular than the "hardcore" simulators that drive better, sound better and play better but give you only a sandbox where you have to make your own fun.
It's possible, but Gran Turismo is an old franchise. A lot of people grew up with Gran Turismo, when it was something that was in many ways quite different to what it is today. Maybe those people should just move on. Or maybe it's okay for them to hope that the franchise moves in a direction that is more akin to what they used to enjoy.
Probably don't accuse them of grieving over something they don't like though. They do like the franchise, that's why they're here. Love for the franchise is what makes people even bother to post at all, and not liking the latest iteration of a franchise doesn't mean that they suddenly hate what made them love it in the first place.
Look at Star Wars. People love the franchise, but I'd say that very few people absolutely love all of it (even after Disney relegated most of the canon material into the Extended Universe). Some people think the new films are sparkly trash. Some people think the old films are slow and dreary. Some people think the spin-off content is blatant money-grubbing greed. Some people think the Christmas Special is excellent. None of that makes them not fans of Star Wars, it just makes them humans that like a franchise in general terms but have opinions on whether specific parts of it are good or not.
Just because you're a fan of something, doesn't mean you have to like all of it. If you do uncritically like all of it, that might be a red flag that you're more in love with the idea of the thing than the actual thing itself.
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