Gran Turismo 7's Next Update is Coming September 28, Adds Three New Cars

[RandomCarGuy17]

Was not my intention; didn't wish to implicate you as an individual.

Alright, that's fine then. Though, I still have things to say about this:

There are still those out there who believe everything should be unlocked when you purchase the game aka "I paid $XX.xx so everything I paid for should be available" and that is what I was referring to.

and back to the previous statements you made:

Some individuals don't want to put forth the effort. If everything were free and unlocked from the start of the game, people would play for a month then move onto the next game . . . with a select bunch staying on afterwards.

You are right on both of these counts of some people just not wanting to put any work towards getting the content, but they don't relate to my point. When I and others complain about the economy, lack of new, significant events. We are not saying we want them all to be free to play with at the start nor we don't want to put effort into the game at all. We're saying that we want the effort required to get the content to either be fun or less time consuming to get. And this complaint has been a constant since launch because progression has been done better in older racing games including Gran Turismo games. I love the satisfaction of progressing in a game to unlock a car or track, I go back to play the earlier GTs and Need for Speeds for that reason. But I also think there's a limit to how far you take progression requirements. GT7 took things too far.

and here's another set of problems I have with these statements. They sound like criticism for people that don't want to put in work in a video game. Why should they have to at all if they don't want to? Not everyone has the time to put in towards progressing in a game to get the cars they want, they want to have time to just chill and enjoy those cars.

Also, it's not the best argument to say everyone that gets the cars right away would just get bored and move onto the next game afterwards. There are multiple racing sims that have cars readily available for players to drive with no progression required and those players will spend hours on end playing them. I spent plenty of time playing Project CARS 2 just playing the game's equivalent of Arcade mode alone trying different cars and tracks in the game. Or maybe setting up a custom race such as GT3 vs IMSA GTO races, maybe creating a multi-class race, or something else.

Despite Forza Motorsport 4 having every car available to drive at the start of the game via arcade mode, plenty of players have sunken plenty of hours into the Career Mode and online racing.

If the game has fun enough driving physics, A.I. opponents, and online racing; it won't need in-game progression requirements as such for players to have fun with it.

 

[sswishbone]

Or scale the custom race payout to the point where it becomes a viable alternative and not a complete waste of time when there's still cars in the FOMO shop to grind for.

Scaling the custom races so your difficulty input has an effect would be a great idea for those who want to spend time making their own events. For the large user base who won't have the desire for this, there should be decent regular races besides the current tri-fecta

 

[tankuroded]

Mazda3 Gr.4 BoP info (unsure if already posted):


So Mazda went from having a low-tier car in Gr.4 to an OP one I guess, since its BOP ratings are the car's default settings? It's a race-to-race win candidate, with it seemingly being this week's Race B meta (so expect the same in GT2/GT3 League Manufacturers Round 4).

 

[RACECAR]

Mazda3 Gr.4 BoP info (unsure if already posted):


So Mazda went from having a low-tier car in Gr.4 to an OP one I guess, since its BOP ratings are the car's default settings? It's a race-to-race win candidate, with it seemingly being this week's Race B meta (so expect the same in GT2/GT3 League Manufacturers Round 4).

From what I saw from some videos on youtube that thing has massive Straightline speed, which I'm not surprised by considering its a Diesel and we all know what those are capable of when done right.

Sportscar fans from 2006-2010: Uncontrollable shaking

 

[x__myst69__x]

and I am happy you find enjoyment in that. I can enjoy just doing laps around a track in a car aswell, but that's not the same thing that I'm talking about here. I'm talking about how there's only 3-4 races to efficiently earn money properly for the absurdly expensive cars in the game, the races aren't even the most engaging with the nature of the A.I. There are actual events in the game that have better A.I. and can provide more fun racing, but I can't be bothered to engage with those as I essentially have to focus most of my time saving up money for the absurdly expensive Ferrari 250 GTO or something like that.

It isn't fun to me, it's a boring slog based on repetition.

you nailed it!!!! 100% i enjoy the driving experience too, BUT... in a game that makes credits so damn necessary, over fun I might add, i don't have real life time to waste in this game driving for fun - ll driving must be (sadly) focussed on earning, and given that there is only 4 repetitive boring races to make payoff worth (questionable) real life driving time, I choose to not play the game until they fix the economy - the silver lining is that if they ever fix the economy, I will put literally hundreds of hours back into this game - I so hope this is the case. Sadly, the most likely eventuality is that I will never play all the added eventd over the last 14 months bcause they are simply not worth my time. In pcars2, assetto corsa, ams2. rfactor2, etc, you can drive for sheer pleasure because there is no economy, all cars are available with all parts required. In forza, you can upgrade your cars but credits are plentiful so upgrading is not an issue. GT7 is the only game where you need to upgrade vehicles at extreme prices with FA credits available without endless real life time grinding - the whole PD/Sony/Kaz conglomerate out to be ashamed! They have taken us hardcore GT lovers who have been faithful for over 20 years and spat right in our faces

I agree with pretty much all of this.

One thing I would ask to those people who just enjoy "driving a car on a track", would having a more balanced economy that didn't require such a grind ruin your enjoyment?

I also enjoy driving a car on a track, but if that's all I want to do, there are better games than GT7 for me to do that. GT offers something 99% of other games don't. Or at least, it used to. And that was an indepth career mode where you could tune cars, build them up into racing cars and enjoy a wide varity of races and events.

GT7 sadly, is awful in that regard. Even the events it does have aren't fun races. Yes, you can enjoy the feeling of just driving the car, but the actual racing, outside of the small number of chilli events, is dire. Of course, people can agree to disagree, but there is a serious lack of entertaining races and the economy makes grinding what is there even more of a problem IMO.

There should be a journey of progressing from cheap cars to powerful expensive ones, but it shouldn't be this tedious, the journey that is, not the driving.

Time isn't free, some people will have far more of it than others, there is as far as I can see, no tangiable benefit to how stingy the car prices are in GT7. Sure, you can have more fun just focusing on other things than grinding, this is true, but how would reducing those prices and creating more interesting events and races be a negative impact?

I think some people are just stuck in a rut of "well I enjoy the game" or "but I dislike the game" and the actual issues raised sometimes get sidelined for more shallow points.

what a brilliant post! Nothing more to say, just brilliant.. captures everything. I would pay a $100 of my on money just for this post to be read by Kaz and acted upon with true feeling for the GT clan that want to say to their mates... "i played GT7 last night" without being ridiculed for being an idiot :/

 

[StuntmanRich]

I agree with pretty much all of this.

One thing I would ask to those people who just enjoy "driving a car on a track", would having a more balanced economy that didn't require such a grind ruin your enjoyment?

I also enjoy driving a car on a track, but if that's all I want to do, there are better games than GT7 for me to do that. GT offers something 99% of other games don't. Or at least, it used to. And that was an indepth career mode where you could tune cars, build them up into racing cars and enjoy a wide varity of races and events.

GT7 sadly, is awful in that regard. Even the events it does have aren't fun races. Yes, you can enjoy the feeling of just driving the car, but the actual racing, outside of the small number of chilli events, is dire. Of course, people can agree to disagree, but there is a serious lack of entertaining races and the economy makes grinding what is there even more of a problem IMO.

There should be a journey of progressing from cheap cars to powerful expensive ones, but it shouldn't be this tedious, the journey that is, not the driving.

Time isn't free, some people will have far more of it than others, there is as far as I can see, no tangiable benefit to how stingy the car prices are in GT7. Sure, you can have more fun just focusing on other things than grinding, this is true, but how would reducing those prices and creating more interesting events and races be a negative impact?

I think some people are just stuck in a rut of "well I enjoy the game" or "but I dislike the game" and the actual issues raised sometimes get sidelined for more shallow points.

I really enjoy the 24 minutes of Le Mans mission (probably the best bit of the game for me) and have done it numerous times chasing the win which I eventually did. Because I like it I created my own grid of cars I associate more with Le Mans, so I replaced some of the GT3 cars with GTEs and set up my own “chase the rabbit” 1 hour long Le Mans as the custom race option doesn’t allow me to do anything less while still getting a 24 hour cycle. I did an hour race at Le Mans and then an hour of Spa and earned about 27k for each race. Whilst I enjoyed playing, by the end I just thought I could have earned 3 million credits in that time and then factor in the number of times I’d done the Le Mans mission for zero credits and it’s just a bizarre experience playing this game.

It actually ended up costing me credits because I had to buy inters/rain tyres for the car I wanted to use and change the oil after the two races.

 

[cvjoint]

I would actually have preferred more struggle in the beginning, being stuck with a slow car and having to really work to save money for tunning parts to advance. You quickly finish all the content in this game, and then you are stuck with having to grind the same handful of races to buy the remaining 400 cars. We get to the grind way too quickly and then there is not much more.

 

[mwoodski]

So uh, the regular EG hatch has to be coming soon ish, right?

 

[05XR8]

So uh, the regular EG hatch has to be coming soon ish, right?

It could. We've seen back to back cars from the same brand, being added in updates.

 

[ScottPuss20]

So uh, the regular EG hatch has to be coming soon ish, right?

I don't want it because let's face it, we'll build the exact same car as Phil and Jesse

 

[cvjoint]

I love that new K24 engine in the Civic. It makes gobs more power than the Type R fully tuned, which it should. Now we just need that engine as a swap in just about everything.

 

[Checkman]

I‘m so looking forward to GT8 because I will leave it and wait at least a year before buying it second hand

 

[aguia]

I don't know if it happened before or after, but after this update I realized that I had lost all the replays, race photos and scapes, except for what I had shared. I don't know if there are more reports of this kind or if it just happened to me, on both profiles on a PS4.

 

[moby323]

Have they ever released multiple updates in the span of a few weeks?

In other words, any chance that the next update (with sport mode fix) will happen soon?

 

[Dave A]

Have they ever released multiple updates in the span of a few weeks?

In other words, any chance that the next update (with sport mode fix) will happen soon?

Yes, they've released hotfixes between adding content before. It's not a guarentee they'll do it again, but it has happened.

 

[Vspectra]

I don't know if it happened before or after, but after this update I realized that I had lost all the replays, race photos and scapes, except for what I had shared. I don't know if there are more reports of this kind or if it just happened to me, on both profiles on a PS4.

I lost the custom race settings for all tracks too.

 

[willbsn13]

wrong forum.

 

[aguia]

I lost the custom race settings for all tracks too.

Yes, I saw it now and that also disappeared.
Fortunately, there are more reports of what happened.
If this blackout is due to the last update, it is regrettable.
Any code written by a chatbot would do better.

If this is not the place to discuss this type of subject, I would appreciate the link to change the content to the appropriate place. Thanks.

 

[Chris30]

Yes, I saw it now and that also disappeared.
Fortunately, there are more reports of what happened.
If this blackout is due to the last update, it is regrettable.
Any code written by a chatbot would do better.

If this is not the place to discuss this type of subject, I would appreciate the link to change the content to the appropriate place. Thanks.

I have not experienced this glitch/bug. I love the new Civic and Mazda Group 4 car.