Gran Turismo 7's Next Update is Coming This Week: Escudo Pikes Peak Returns

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Considering how different Pikes Peak is from other tracks in the game, I don't see PD adding it in a regular patch without any fanfare.

I would expect it to come in the form of paid DLC separate from the main content of the game like the Hamilton time trials.
Eh, they added a lot of well regarded cars and tracks as regular updates in GTS. The real event has already started with practice so they could put together some collaborative promo stuff tomorrow or Thursday. A separate video from the regular update one, probably.

Sure, I could be completely wrong and PP isn't coming this week but to quote Incubus


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Gran Turismo set a high standard with GT Sport. 3 cars was a smaller update in that game. Now we're at 3 cars and ~9 races per month. The latter is what's truly ridiculous to me.
Sport was also an incredibly lean game content wise at launch with about 300 or so less cars then GT7 has at launch, hence the massive packs of cars we got for a while.
 
Considering how different Pikes Peak is from other tracks in the game, I don't see PD adding it in a regular patch without any fanfare.

I would expect it to come in the form of paid DLC separate from the main content of the game like the Hamilton time trials.
It's not coming as paid DLC. It would be the worst paid DLC in the history of the game. Not to mention that they tried paid DLC tracks in the past and it was a horrible failure because, if you didn't have the track, you could not join a lobby. Paid DLC in GT (aside from the Hamilton thing) was abandoned over a decade ago.

Reading through this thread, it sure seems to me that the reception to this update is "ho hum".

The opportunity is lost. They didn't offer a game changer out of the gate. Now, these updates ring hollow.

And Pike's Peak? I guess it's something more for me to play in my profound loneliness. I can race up a hill by myself instead of racing around all the other content by myself. :P


The only way to revive this game now is to relaunch it with something that is actually new and interesting.



Oh, and the 32 Ford Roadster? Where will I race this? Is this supposed to be a car for cool scapes photos? Maybe they should just sell the scapes feature separately for $5...I'm grumpy...grumpy that the 25th anniversary edition of one of the most influential games is this...this rehash...this half effort.
 
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I find it strange how some people are somehow convinced the Escudo won't be a GR.B car meanwhile, this exists in said category:

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As for the '32 Roadster and "Who it'll race", I'm not really seeing the problem. I'd understand if this was an argument for its inclusion in Sport but this is clearly not GT Sport so...why is this still a strange thing? I genuinely don't understand how this is still a big deal if this is in a game where the Esports element is not the primary focus. Certainly not as baffling as one guy's obsession with whether a GT game is "Numbered" or not, but its strange that this is still an obsessive focus when its not that. If its such a big deal, maybe drag racing it?
 
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Would also make sense, but It would be very a bad idea after and the still ongoing complaints about microtransactions and lack of content, to release 3 months after release some paid DLC.
yes but no one would pay for when money is tight for everyone
 
Having a mild giggle at the guy who can't complete a thought without doubling back calling people who like a thing he doesn't like "very thick dim-witted people". I don't have a single uncreased item of clothing now.

Not entirely - it was usually waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than that.

In GT1 you'd get 50% of the list price back (plus a bonus if you sold it in the right dealership) - although I recall that in early versions it was capped at 12,000cr...

Later games gave you as much as 25% of the list price - additional mods were not included in the value - and you couldn't sell cars over a certain value (err... think it was 1m credits in GT5, but I'd have to check).
Posting this here before another outrage but this time because selling cars gives you back only like 50% of its price at best and because selling gifted cars still not possible.
It was that way in previous games, wasn't it?

Having a mild giggle at the guy who can't complete a thought without doubling back calling people who like a thing he doesn't like "very thick dim-witted people". I don't have a single uncreased item of clothing now.

Not entirely - it was usually waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than that.

In GT1 you'd get 50% of the list price back (plus a bonus if you sold it in the right dealership) - although I recall that in early versions it was capped at 12,000cr...

Later games gave you as much as 25% of the list price - additional mods were not included in the value - and you couldn't sell cars over a certain value (err... think it was 1m credits in GT5, but I'd have to check).
In GT6 and GTS, the selling price was 30% of the original price.

Edit: Sorry for the double quote.
 
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I wouldn't mind being able to sell cars at 50% of their price at all. It's a way to "balance" the game. Previous GTs you couldn't sell for anywhere near half the price, and in fact, a lot of games where you can sell cars, they give you peanuts, but then again, you barely have any other games like GT.

I'm happy with between 40-50% of the car's price. Anything above is a bonus. 30% would be low IMO but tolerable... In GT2 and GT4 and I also think GT3 you could sell cars for 25% of their price. But at the same time you could win these cars an infinite amount of times and sell them over and over...

Anything below 30% is just stupid given the economy of the game as it stands... And even more insult to injury would be to add the terrible features we had in GT5-GT6-GTS where cars above 1 million could not be sold and you could not sell gift cars.

But I am almost sure with the way PD has been for the last few years, they are going to put a stupid restriction in selling cars. I smell it from a mile away.
 
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I find it strange how some people are somehow convinced the Escudo won't be a GR.B car meanwhile, this exists in said category:

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As for the '32 Roadster and "Who it'll race", I'm not really seeing the problem. I'd understand if this was an argument for its inclusion in Sport but this is clearly not GT Sport so...why is this still a strange thing? I genuinely don't understand how this is still a big deal if this is in a game where the Esports element is not the primary focus. Certainly not as baffling as one guy's obsession with whether a GT game is "Numbered" or not, but its strange that this is still an obsessive focus when its not that. If its such a big deal, maybe drag racing it?
The older Gr. B's are all neutered with low downforce so they're no better than road cars at the events that matter. The Miura is a better option for Sarthe/WTC 700 than the 205 and Audi, and cars like the F1 road, F50, Porsche GT1 are better than them at WTC 800 since they have better downforce.

Maybe they'll be generous and give the Escudo 250/250, lol.

I guess it's cool if you really like rally content that pays so poorly it would take a month to work off the cost of the car, other than that, meh. I'd much rather have the rest of IB/IA/S content that should have been here at launch than a rally car.

As for the old-ass Ford, what's the point? It's as baffling an inclusion as the Barker and Alfa 8c. I guess maybe it means we'll get one race for these cars that pays 44k credits... I'm sure it'll be all the rage for 6hr after release before people go back to mindlessly grinding WTC events or running afk scripts.

Edit: Didn't realize the Ford is like a hot-rod/resto-mod. In that case it's probably going to be given the #tuner tag, meaning it'll be even more worthless than I previously thought.
 
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I wouldn't mind being able to sell cars at 50% of their price at all. It's a way to "balance" the game. Previous GTs you couldn't sell for anywhere near half the price, and in fact, a lot of games where you can sell cars, they give you peanuts, but then again, you barely have any other games like GT.

I'm happy with between 40-50% of the car's price. Anything above is a bonus. 30% would be low IMO but tolerable... In GT2 and GT4 and I also think GT3 you could sell cars for 25% of their price. But at the same time you could win these cars an infinite amount of times and sell them over and over...

Anything below 30% is just stupid given the economy of the game as it stands... And even more insult to injury would be to add the terrible features we had in GT5-GT6-GTS where cars above 1 million could not be sold and you could not sell gift cars.

But I am almost sure with the way PD has been for the last few years, they are going to put a stupid restriction in selling cars. I smell it from a mile away.
I personally don't think 50% is enough. If they're going to base the legendary cars off of real value then all cars should be. Why would I sell a car for half the price I paid for it in real life if it's still a zero kilometre car (edit: just an example but I think it gets my point across)? Simple answer, I wouldn't. I think they should be sold for pretty much what we buy them for, especially with how today's real life market is.
 
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As for the '32 Roadster and "Who it'll race", I'm not really seeing the problem....
It depends. The Nova for instance is not a "road car" as far as the game is concerned. Visually, it obviously is a road car, but it is not designated as such. The Roadster may, or may not, have the same issue.

It's one of those silly decisions that PD makes (regarding the Nova) that unnecessarily limits what a player can do with it. The roadster may follow suit. That's the problem.

Personally, I think it should be in the road car category. I liked the Red Devil in GT6 at 550pp (and that other camaro). They were allowed in street car lobbies. As long as it's allowed to partake in events, then it's fine, but they might mess it up and make it useless, which has happened in the past.
 
Seems you missed the point completely though.

Ok, fine, but I don’t and he was responding to me, putting words in my mouth.
Look I respect your opinion, but it seems you missed the point of my post. All the crap in your garage you don't use is going to the bottom of your list. You won't even see it unless you scroll down that far. And you stated that selling cars should be fixed before anything else... for whatever specific reason. If money isn't the issue here's a neat little trick, go to your garage and highlight a crap car. Now hit triangle and discard, problem solved.

One of the aspects that has always been a part of GT is collecting cars. A lot of people find these crap cars fun to use in online lobbies. Me and some friends had a fun race in a souped up Sambabus on the Nurburgring as an example. Maybe try that as a change of pace from SP. Now if they would make fixing the lobbies the #1 priority... :lol:
 
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I personally don't think 50% is enough. If they're going to base the legendary cars off of real value then all cars should be. Why would I sell a car for half the price I paid for it in real life if it's still a zero kilometre car (edit: just an example but I think it gets my point across)? Simple answer, I wouldn't. I think they should be sold for pretty much what we buy them for, especially with how today's real life market is.
For Legendary's I want whatever the going rate is. Chances are that if I'm selling a Legendary it means it sucks and I've put less than 50 miles on it, so yeah, I'd want 100% or more. If they want to make it "realistic" then people should be able to buy cars at a lower price, hold them for months/years, and sell them at whatever the current rate is. If they want to play that game it needs to cut both ways, not just in the price we pay.
 
For Legendary's I want whatever the going rate is. Chances are that if I'm selling a Legendary it means it sucks and I've put less than 50 miles on it, so yeah, I'd want 100% or more. If they want to make it "realistic" then people should be able to buy cars at a lower price, hold them for months/years, and sell them at whatever the current rate is. If they want to play that game it needs to cut both ways, not just in the price we pay.
Exactly! 👍 If the price of a car goes up in Legendary then it should go up when I sell that car.
 
All I really want in the next update is the ability to switch tracks and restrictions in online lobbies. All of these vehicles are rendered useless without that. Don't care about a new track yet or new cars. Just make the damn game playable outside of the world map. Dailies are only fun for a couple days.
 
I find it strange how some people are somehow convinced the Escudo won't be a GR.B car meanwhile, this exists in said category:

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As for the '32 Roadster and "Who it'll race", I'm not really seeing the problem. I'd understand if this was an argument for its inclusion in Sport but this is clearly not GT Sport so...why is this still a strange thing? I genuinely don't understand how this is still a big deal if this is in a game where the Esports element is not the primary focus. Certainly not as baffling as one guy's obsession with whether a GT game is "Numbered" or not, but its strange that this is still an obsessive focus when its not that. If its such a big deal, maybe drag racing it?
To me it just highlights the laziness of GTs rally. Gr.B is just the dumbest category
 
Controversial take, but I don’t think the PP course will come, and if it does it won’t be particularly special. Barely anyone outside the US cares about it anyway. It’s hardly an iconic track (can you draw its route?) and hillclimbs are a bit niche even among rally fans. Not saying I won’t use it if it’s coming (and I’d hope I’ll like it and be converted) but the rally physics on the other dirt tracks in this game is a bit iffy. I know it’s tarmac’ed now, so maybe ok. At least it’d be something new, eh, something else to do if the rewards are ok. But if we must have point-to-point races I just think I’d prefer some mountain toge course(s) from Japan, or maybe a long stretch of the Tokyo Expressway.
It’d be the same take on drag racing(0-400), but it’s in the game. PD half assed that one by using an asset already in the game(Route X) and not actually making a drag strip facility. Obvious is obvious it’s 50:50 whether we get Pike’s Peak or not. It’s possible we could get an alternative mountain road. PD just do stuff.
 
I think they have a good base to build up on but I’m absolutely fed up with games releasing in an incomplete state.
While I do get your point. This is just how gaming is these days. Imagine if Gran Turismo 8 released and PD issued a statement to say “that’s it, that’s all your getting!” No matter what the state of the game was, a very large number of people would be very quick to complain!
 
While I do get your point. This is just how gaming is these days. Imagine if Gran Turismo 8 released and PD issued a statement to say “that’s it, that’s all your getting!” No matter what the state of the game was, a very large number of people would be very quick to complain!
I just wouldn't buy it... Regardless of how GT8 turns out there's no way in hell I'm buying in the first month of launch. If it's obviously a complete package 4-6 weeks in, I'll buy but if it's not I'll either wait until it's complete or just never buy it.

Sure, this is the way the industry is now, but they still have to lie and promise things they never have any intention on delivering in order to get the initial sales. If they just came out and said "this half-finished copy/paste of our previous title is it, take it or leave it" it wouldn't do well. They'll obviously never do that, they'll keep lying to get sales, so I will not be buying any PD game going forward until I'm 100% sure it's a complete game. If that means waiting three years and buying it at a deep discount, so be it.

By the looks of things most of us are going to be scrounging to find food and keep our homes warm over the next few years, so the "luxury" of paying a studio to beta test their games is going to be falling way down in the list of priorities for most people. In an economic depression the consumers hold a hell of a lot more power than they do in times of bounty, and the onus will be on these studios to meet the demands of the customers lest they go the way of the dodo.
 
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I just wouldn't buy it... Regardless of how GT8 turns out there's no way in hell I'm buying in the first month of launch. If it's obviously a complete package 4-6 weeks in, I'll buy but if it's not I'll either wait until it's complete or just never buy it.

Sure, this is the way the industry is now, but they still have to lie and promise things they never have any intention on delivering in order to get the initial sales. If they just came out and said "this half-finished copy/paste of our previous title is it, take it or leave it" it wouldn't do well. They'll obviously never do that, they'll keep lying to get sales, so I will not be buying any PD game going forward until I'm 100% sure it's a complete game. If that means waiting three years and buying it at a deep discount, so be it.

By the looks of things most of us are going to be scrounging to find food and keep our homes warm over the next few years, so the "luxury" of paying a studio to beta test their games is going to be falling way down in the list of priorities for most people. In an economic depression the consumers hold a hell of a lot more power than they do in times of bounty, and the onus will be on these studios to meet the demands of the customers lest they go the way of the dodo.
Honestly most people if they are very sensitive to game launches prob shouldn’t buy the first month for any game, doubly so when it came to the pandemic games def have shipped while complete in a sense as in playable and you can enjoy it from beginning to end, most people are better off waiting a few months and get off the FOMO train when it comes to game launches. Its a double edged sword games now can get better over time but also may not have the whole kitchen sink due to the complexities that modern game design has brought compared to the past where you only had to deal with very limited scenarios, no online components etc.

I think the game as it launched had a lot for more casual/ to involved people, but the game for the most hardcore fans it wouldnt have been enough and still isnt, and for some it may never be enough.
 
I just wouldn't buy it... Regardless of how GT8 turns out there's no way in hell I'm buying in the first month of launch. If it's obviously a complete package 4-6 weeks in, I'll buy but if it's not I'll either wait until it's complete or just never buy it.

Sure, this is the way the industry is now, but they still have to lie and promise things they never have any intention on delivering in order to get the initial sales. If they just came out and said "this half-finished copy/paste of our previous title is it, take it or leave it" it wouldn't do well. They'll obviously never do that, they'll keep lying to get sales, so I will not be buying any PD game going forward until I'm 100% sure it's a complete game. If that means waiting three years and buying it at a deep discount, so be it.

By the looks of things most of us are going to be scrounging to find food and keep our homes warm over the next few years, so the "luxury" of paying a studio to beta test their games is going to be falling way down in the list of priorities for most people. In an economic depression the consumers hold a hell of a lot more power than they do in times of bounty, and the onus will be on these studios to meet the demands of the customers lest they go the way of the dodo.
GT7 is the last game that I will preorder. I had stopped doing that until this came out but I have went back to doing that. I prefer to get games that have been out for awhile and I can buy the deluxe version with all of dlc at an affordable price. I bought WWE2K22, Grid Legends, & Ride 4 this way. TBH that's how I have bought 99% of the games I own on the PS5. Why pay $70 or more for one game when I can buy several at that price point? I miss out on playing games when they are brand new but I also miss out on lack of content and game breaking bugs that early adopter find.
 
I find it strange how some people are somehow convinced the Escudo won't be a GR.B car meanwhile, this exists in said category:

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As for the '32 Roadster and "Who it'll race", I'm not really seeing the problem. I'd understand if this was an argument for its inclusion in Sport but this is clearly not GT Sport so...why is this still a strange thing? I genuinely don't understand how this is still a big deal if this is in a game where the Esports element is not the primary focus. Certainly not as baffling as one guy's obsession with whether a GT game is "Numbered" or not, but its strange that this is still an obsessive focus when its not that. If its such a big deal, maybe drag racing it?
Escudo 980HP over 500-600 HP cars not fair enough, that is the problem i think
 
I find it strange how some people are somehow convinced the Escudo won't be a GR.B car meanwhile, this exists in said category...
But those Gr.B cars are capped at around 789 HP. The Escudo starts way above that, almost 1000 HP stock.
 
My personal opinion, fixing all the various bugs, issues and shortcomings are more important than the Escudo or Pikes Peak. Let me change cars in lobbies, let me chat in lobbies, let me do the engine swaps I want to do, give us the FFB the outlay on the expensive official wheel deserves, let me sell cars!
 
My personal opinion, fixing all the various bugs, issues and shortcomings are more important than the Escudo or Pikes Peak. Let me change cars in lobbies, let me chat in lobbies, let me do the engine swaps I want to do, give us the FFB the outlay on the expensive official wheel deserves, let me sell cars!
Been said many a time the content folk have nothing to do with those other issues, defo need the ffb fixed for all wheels as going back too GTS , big difference from that too what we have in GT7, even though I wasn't a fan of ffb in GTS it's miles better than GT7's
 
Look I respect your opinion, but it seems you missed the point of my post. All the crap in your garage you don't use is going to the bottom of your list. You won't even see it unless you scroll down that far. And you stated that selling cars should be fixed before anything else... for whatever specific reason. If money isn't the issue here's a neat little trick, go to your garage and highlight a crap car. Now hit triangle and discard, problem solved.

One of the aspects that has always been a part of GT is collecting cars. A lot of people find these crap cars fun to use in online lobbies. Me and some friends had a fun race in a souped up Sambabus on the Nurburgring as an example. Maybe try that as a change of pace from SP. Now if they would make fixing the lobbies the #1 priority... :lol:
You really don’t know how the garage works, do you?....
 
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Priority issues that need to be fixed or changed:

1. Removing the Engine Swaps and Rare Car Parts from the roulettes. With this current system, these features are unusable.
2. Fixing FFB for wheels.
3. Allow players to ***** sell cars.
4. Make "quality of life" changes to Lobbies.
5. SIGNIFICANTLY (by like 20x at least) raise the payouts for Custom Races and Sport Mode Races.
6. Add a crap load more of events for us to play in... Championships and Missions more importantly. (with payouts worth their salt as well)
7. Make "quality of life" changes to Custom Races.

8... After all of the above, then you can focus on adding Cars, Tracks and the minor bugs still in the game.


For me personally this is the order of things that need to be fixed/removed/added in the game.


To me it just highlights the laziness of GTs rally. Gr.B is just the dumbest category
Gr.1 is definitely the dumbest category. Gr.B at the very least has cars almost all with similar philosophies and specs.
Gr.B is also IMO tainted by having just ficional cars... You only have the Audi quattro Pikes Peak and the 205 as REAL cars. Pathetic... Even for a game that doesn't take Rally as seriously. Delta S4? 037? 5 Maxi Turbo? Celica? Stratos? C4 WRC? So many cars they had in their past games, which could've provided this list with a lot more soul and they don't put them in the game and decide to make absolute dumb crap like a Honda NSX or a Nissan GT-R as Rally cars :lol:

Gr.1 on the other hand is an absolute mess. You probably know it as well.

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GT7 is the last game that I will preorder. I had stopped doing that until this came out but I have went back to doing that. I prefer to get games that have been out for awhile and I can buy the deluxe version with all of dlc at an affordable price. I bought WWE2K22, Grid Legends, & Ride 4 this way. TBH that's how I have bought 99% of the games I own on the PS5. Why pay $70 or more for one game when I can buy several at that price point? I miss out on playing games when they are brand new but I also miss out on lack of content and game breaking bugs that early adopter find.
Pretty much what I am going to start doing... GT7 was the only game I bought new or with no promotions (I had one for Horizon FW) in the last years. Because I was so convinced it was going to be a GT masterpiece... ... Boy oh boy.

Never again. I might as well wait a few months or even 1 year until prices start getting dropped by half or more or just buy the games 2nd hand for even cheaper (I use Discs, don't play digital). I still remember what I did with TLOU2, waited 7 months and bought the game 2nd hand in pretty much "like new" condition for just over 1/3 of the price.

Not to mention that if we actually wait to buy the game, there's always stuff that will be fixed by the time you buy it, unlike when you buy it at launch where bugs and the like are still present.

I remember people going crazy on Days Gone when it released and received really bad reviews. I bought 1 year later for less than half the price and all the framdrops and bugs that existed were gone, and I and a lot of people who reviewed the game later, thought the game was actually decently good.
 
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