Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

[Palestinian]

17 tracks is good.... To start with. But I hope they launch some DLC tracks, could do with 22-24 tracks. Non of this Tokyo highway rubbish... Some proper race tracks, and not ones already found in PCARS or assetto corsa.

 

[sems4arsenal]

If you call yourself slaptrain I can't take anything you say seriously

 

[TheProRacer]

My thoughts so far;

Physics - I truly think that they have upped their game on physics. Yes, I haven't played it, but a lot of the journalist reviews and the like say that it's really up to par with everything else, excluding arcade games. Me being a casual gamer, I do not really worry too much about physics because I just want to get from A to B in a fun and relaxed way. Drifting is also fun. I thoroughly enjoy the feel of older Gran Turismo games.

Graphics - Wow. This is something that Polyphony Digital has been 110% at. I mean, really, there are some minor details that are missing or half finished (good anti-aliasing, cube map reflections, skid marks (doesn't matter to me), interior window reflections), but honestly those are just part of the icing on the cake. I love the visual representations.

Game Modes - I'm 50-50 on this; the campaign gets you ready for online mode and then the majority of racing is online (I think???). I understand the concept but I prefer offline racing, unless it becomes that there is difficulty selection online like Project CARS. This is okay with me I suppose. I still want Gran Turismo on my PS4.

 

[dimassa19]

17 tracks is good.... To start with. But I hope they launch some DLC tracks, could do with 22-24 tracks. Non of this Tokyo highway rubbish... Some proper race tracks, and not ones already found in PCARS or assetto corsa.

19 tracks...

 

[sems4arsenal]

Will still wait and see but if Inside sim racing say that the physics are close to AC than this is absolutely fantastic, Granturismo competing with the best of the best in terms of physics and still not being the final build is brilliant.

Of course simulation doesn't stop at that (Tuning, damage, collisions are a factor) but nailing the driving part makes me happy.

 

[nasanu]

There are downsides to any route one takes to development, the only exception being unlimited budgets. Multiplayer is terrible? While it's not quite as feature rich as GT or other console games, the quality of racing is far superior even in random lobbies and any Sim Racing System or Minorating lobby I've been in is almost as good as many of the league races I've run on any platform. The netcode also seems really stable as I'm able to race with guys with pings in 200's and 300's with little issue. None of that warp speed, disappearing stuff you see in GT for example.

Please, don't give me that. The setup is horrible, very hard to use. I am not even going to get into it because the evidence is crystal clear. NOBODY PLAYS AC ONLINE. Look at the numbers for yourself. At any one time there might be something like 30 people online at peak, if that (last time I looked there was 8, zero racing). But then also enter the rooms and count the actual number of people racing. Most of the time there isn't anyone in the world racing in AC. Now either you can believe that the total market for PC sim racing is you and some other guy, or that the multiplayer in AC is putting people off because it's so bad.

I really hate this attitude. Its great!... Nobody plays it but everything is perfect. The lack of players is a mystery, anti PC bais, or the market isn't there or aliens... Its never down to the simple fact that it's rubbish.

Pretty sure it's got one......

It's Called your right foot......

So you are saying that you want unrealistic cars in GTS?... Or did you not actually think before you posted that? Because cars do include traction control, many cars you can't even turn it off. Having no traction control would make the cars unrealistic.

What a good sim will do is give players the option to set assists to "real". This is giving players all the assists that the real car does, no more no less.

 

[ktfright]

Slap Train Impression

I'm impressed with everything I've seen so far.

 

[RACECAR]

First time in the history of GTP I'm going to reference Assetto Corsa, Project Cars and the Wookie and it's potentially good news for Gran Turismo Fans:

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He's talking about Porsche by the way...

Thanks to @mister dog for providing the link to me.

Kinda already figured a small team like that wasn't going to be EA, silly

Better call up the worlds manufacturers, tell them they can save a wad of cash on TCS systems, they just need to start marketing their cars to people with right feet.

Well on that alone, sells will be through the roof (and possibly, so will the profits for auto repair)

If it's good enough for F1 to have banned TCS, it's good enough for GTS Drivers.

You have way too much confidence.

Slaptrain and Blackpanthaa.

And just like that, the serious is instantly dead.

17 tracks is good.... To start with. But I hope they launch some DLC tracks, could do with 22-24 tracks. Non of this Tokyo highway rubbish... Some proper race tracks, and not ones already found in PCARS or assetto corsa.

Looks like Nurburgring and Brands Hatch did not ring a bell to you

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

First time in the history of GTP I'm going to reference Assetto Corsa, Project Cars and the Wookie and it's potentially good news for Gran Turismo Fans:

View attachment 560752

He's talking about Porsche by the way...

Thanks to @mister dog for providing the link to me.

*claps hands*

Thanks for sharing this Johnny!
I can't wait to hear the news about Project CARS. Though, I hope they keep Ruf while adding Porsche.

 

[GTchicken]

I always thought it was intriguing for Polyphony to stick RUF into Gran Turismo, because they couldn't acquire Porsche. They are not both the same, but I suppose good enough for me.

I would like Porsche though in Gran Turismo.

 

[RACECAR]

I still don't understand why people automatically assume Ruf will be thrown to the curb now that Porsche is no longer In the dungeon. It would seem cruel to after getting to know them. Sure they don't have the racing history Porsche does but you know what, not everyone knew who Ruf was (and therefore when we all first saw them in Gran Turismo, a lot of us probably thought "Hey, why are they calling those Porsches Rufs?" ) and as time went on (and EA became became greedy), more of us ended up getting know more about them through various others (even Turn 10 couldn't unclude them at launch anymore and had to resort to using DLC as a means of getting them in thanks to that exclusive deal).

 

[7HO]

I remember the new Call of Duty: Infinity Warfare been the most "desliked" video on Youtube, but still, the game still got a HUGE amount of pre-orders...

I don't get that, I don't like the COD series at all but the E3 video I saw of that game was amazing, I didn't even realise it was COD until the end of the video and the whole time I was thinking this game looks awesome, I want to get this. That was the first time I had seen a video of the game as I'm nt interested in COD, it just goes to show how people can have wildly different perceptions. But COD is a bit like GT, it has always looked promising before release in the past and after release it's just COD, as disappointing as any other COD.

GTP even has a whining and crying thread. So yes, GTP can be called as a impartial gamming site

I think GTP can be easily considered an impartial site because many of us started as GT fans but realised there was more out there and now have a more realistic perception of the previous games, we also now know what is possible. So it really isn't possible for a developer to BS us anymore and get away with it, the BS becomes more obvious.

I believe looking at the evidence from this site and more importantly from the wider web that there isn't a great deal of interest in this game at the moment and much less than I expected but to be fair we really don't know a whole heap, it hasn't been promoted well and we are still a long way out. I would have hoped more people would be more excited but Youtube videos don't seem to get views, very few people are commenting on threads and articles, it just seems to me that people are not interested for whatever reason. But I'm not sure how to interpret that at this stage.

Latest review

Oh wow, Kaz just confirmed Triple screen support for Neo, actually that whole video has me more excited than ever.

Porsche is Porsche. Ruf is a fine automaker in its own way, but it complements Porsche, not stands in for it.

I've been having trouble following your position in the argument and I don't really car but I absolutely agree with this comment. iRacing is an exception because they cheat, they basically put Porsche race car physics in a 3D model of a Ruf so what you are essentially driving is a racing Porsche and in that regard it is a likeable substitute but a Ruf is not a Porsche and as much as I think Ruf has made some iconic cars they are not a substitute for Porsche, for starters I don't think people really realise how much a major bump in power and change in power deliver really alters the character of a car and not always in a good way. Both in the real world and in the virtual world it would be a dream to drive a modern Porsche GT3 RS, there just isn't a Ruf that could stand in for that car.

12:15 (Day 2 at LA studio on latest GT:Sport build) - "The physics reminded me quite a bit of Assetto Corsa's physics on a PS4, which I had just driven the day before"

I honestly didn't expect that. GTS needs to nail those driving aids if they want to hold the casual interest too.

That was one of the most pleasing things I heard in that whole video. I'm crossing my fingers real hard that this will be comparable to AC in physics and if they do that and get matchmaking right then this game will be a dream come true.

As for aids I accept they absolutely should have the option for aids and these should be user definable to some extent but either matchmaking needs to take this into consideration or these need to be non selectable at the top level IMO. I just don't want someone to be able to use aids to gain an advantage over those who do not use aids. I can think of other ways that aids can be implemented well like having a performance disadvantage associated with them but whatever that implementation I just hope it doesn't effect the integrity of the competition.

Real =/= Difficult

Yes but when Kaz replied to questions about physics he really seemed to be giving the impression that realism has been sacrificed to make it easier to play, at least that is how I felt from his responses. That is why it was so nice to see John make the comments he did and see his driving videos, he has left me with far higher hopes for this game or should I say sim? I absolutely think that the more realistic the physics the easier a game is for a person to reach their own potential. Driving a real car is not hard, driving it at the limit is and people should drive at their own limit. Driving a car in a game will be easy if the real car is easy and the car is accurate in game, that doesn't mean driving the car at race speeds will be easy as this is a skill but I think anyone, even kids can easily learn to drive a realistic car in a sim fast and the more realistic it is the more familiar it will be and familiarity makes things easier for me at least.

No no no, not just the sound, but the effect on the engine. It's still just an on/off switch. The engine has none of that mechanical-ness of going from one gear to another.

I'm curious how you worked this out? Did you work that out from watching a video of someone driving a car that uses a computer controlled auto clutch in real life? Because that is what GT3 cars do, you select the gear and the computer controls the clutch and the throttle blip and even will not let you down shift until you are in the correct RPM range.

 

[catamount39]

I'm curious how you worked this out? Did you work that out from watching a video of someone driving a car that uses a computer controlled auto clutch in real life? Because that is what GT3 cars do, you select the gear and the computer controls the clutch and the throttle blip and even will not let you down shift until you are in the correct RPM range.

*ahem*



Take any GT3 onboard, and there's no real existence of that mechanical resistance from this game. All GT3's have the same gearbox (different ratios obviously) there's nothing complicated about it. None of the shudder as it notches down from 6th to 1st is there in this game still, you can see it in the bloody telemetry, it clicks from 6800rpm to 5000rpm like nothing happened, no jump or lag from the engine is there. The engine is like a bloody electric motor with an on/off switch in GTS still. Assetto Corsa, Driveclub, Project CARS, DiRT Rally, everybody gets the concept besides PD.

 

[Tassie_tiger]

I don't believe Kaz has confirmed the existence of Neo at any stage.

But yes, triple screen confirmed in the Inside Sim Racing video.

It's also been mentioned (in another video) that when using VR the visor line opening of your virtual helmet is visible.
Which I thought is kinda cool.

 

[chengman]

If I remember correctly, all the Ferraris in GT are in Race mode, and of course with no bumpy road mode on.

McLarens are in sport mode though. It literally says in the 12C sport mode. Also about the traction control, it is literally a death wish driving a LaFerrari with TC off. If a 458 can spin its tires in 3 gears, then what says the LaFerrari can't spin it in 5th gear? Especially since a F12 TDF does it in 5th gear.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Please, don't give me that. The setup is horrible, very hard to use. I am not even going to get into it because the evidence is crystal clear. NOBODY PLAYS AC ONLINE. Look at the numbers for yourself. At any one time there might be something like 30 people online at peak, if that (last time I looked there was 8, zero racing). But then also enter the rooms and count the actual number of people racing. Most of the time there isn't anyone in the world racing in AC. Now either you can believe that the total market for PC sim racing is you and some other guy, or that the multiplayer in AC is putting people off because it's so bad.

I really hate this attitude. Its great!... Nobody plays it but everything is perfect. The lack of players is a mystery, anti PC bais, or the market isn't there or aliens... Its never down to the simple fact that it's rubbish.

Blatant falsehood:

 

[7HO]

- Its Gran Turismo Sport, Not Gran Turismo 7. To keep making claims that its the end of the series because it doesn't contain any of the elements of the regular numbered games (SHOCKER!) have when the game isn't even out IS beyond absurd. How many times does it have to be made clear that it isn't like the regular titles?

Watch this and this

You are here long enough to know that developers will say what they like not what is the reality. Nobody said that previous assets are plug & play. Even if they start fresh its not a blank sheet of paper, they use a CAD model from the manufacturer or a laser scan whitch hey! is a 3d model.And please stop saying how we don't know nothing about cars modeling because its not rocket science and you don't need to work PD to do it at home as many do.

What game do you make cars for so I can try some of your creations?

It's obvious that PD gutted 450 models or so to sell to you guys after release, just you see all those old models popup soon after release, and certainly not for free. Probably the same for tracks. Selling a complete package for $60 is not a good deal for developers these days.

It isn't obvious to me considering that in the 3 demos we are mainly seeing few new additions and mainly upgrades to things we have already seen. I'm convinced they have been working hard to build new content and will actually be impressed if they can actually complete what they have already told us about by release date, (complete as in needs no more work). I really don't believe they are holding back content just to make more money.

Nobody did it before the first time

But I am convinced they will sell DLC this time. I just don't agree with Simtourist that they intentionally released less content so they can make more money. Regardless I think this release is good value as long as they can get the elements right and if they do then I will not be upset to pay for additional DLC that I want.

I have read ALOT of conflicting information from this forum and news across the web, that Gran Turismo Sport is a main part of the series, and that it maybe in fact Gran Turismo 7.

However, logically, it cannot be.

It is a specialty version of Gran Turismo (FIA edition), and lacks a wide variety of elements from previous games. Most especially like, the career mode, 100s of cars, the original and most world tracks.

Also, in regards to paying for online content. Yes, of course you have to pay to use online services on the Xbox One and PS4. However, Gran Turismo Sport is a mainly online game, whereas Forza heavily tilts toward offline content.

So where Forza you can pay $60 and get a ton of offline racing career. You are paying $60 for Gran Turismo Sport for mainly online content, with the addition of PSN subscription.

Gran Turismo Sport looks to be a great game. It is personally not for me. I am a veteran fan, and I just don't find Gran Turismo Sport a compelling game in series.

You should also watch those videos I linked above. I think your logic is incorrect and the opposite of the logical conclusion those videos lead to.

They are one use only, and tied specifically to the single account that ordered them.

I'd probably one to get them if they spanned over all your accounts and allowed an infinite amount of uses. However, that is not the case. My point was just to illustrate that PD is not a Saint in this particular situation.

Actually if they release all cars and tracks as free DLC and only make money by selling non essential elements such as stickers, paints, skins and wheels in a similar fashion to how some free to play games like Team Fortress operate then I'd have to say they are close to being Saints. I do think they will charge for Cars and Tracks this time though and if they also charged for cosmetice items then I would expect backlash because that would be about as low as they could go but if they only charge for DLC Cars and Tracks, that is acceptable and if instead they only charge for cosmetic items that would be preferable.

Something I have been quietly hoping for though is that when customising you simply have a colour wheel with infinite colour options and also can design anything at all freely and that there is a community market where people can sell skins they have created and profit from their work.

 

[RACECAR]

Watch this and this

And what I am I looking for exactly?

 

[7HO]

And what I am I looking for exactly?

Perhaps this post will make it more clear.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/poll-will-you-buy-a-ps4-for-gts.337689/page-8#post-11433911

I don't believe Kaz has confirmed the existence of Neo at any stage.

But yes, triple screen confirmed in the Inside Sim Racing video.

I may be wrong but I believe he just did because to my knowledge or what I believe I have read previously is the PS4 does not support triples, initially when I remember reading that I couldn't believe that they downgraded from the PS3 because you can do triple screens with the PS3. So if I am not mistaken and the PS4 can't actually do triples like I remember reading then by saying GTS will support triples he just confirmed that the NEo will support triples and this was one of the questions I had about the NEO, I wanted to know if it would bring triple support, if it would bring 1440p support and if it would bring freesync support and if it would support 144hz gaming monitors?

We know that the GPU said to be in the NEO is capable of running triples easily so to hear that GTS will support triple monitors is great news and there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to run all 3 monitors from a single NEO.

And that now makes what Kaz said in another interview much more understandable because when Kaz was asked about PSVR vs normal display he said that he though competitive people would use a regular display while those that wanted more immersion would prefer VR and this made no sense to me when I heard it but then he seemed to backstep a bit on that comment. In a straight PSVR vs TV fight I can't imagine any competitive gamer would choose a TV over PSVR and even in a 60hz monitor vs PSVR fight I still think the competitive advantage would once again go to the PSVR but if you can run a 144hz monitor or triples then I can easily understand why competitive gamers would choose either of those options over VR, this is already happening on PC.

 

[RACECAR]

Perhaps this post will make it more clear.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/poll-will-you-buy-a-ps4-for-gts.337689/page-8#post-11433911

So basically, you also think that this game is GT7.

Not believing until I see it. I know this has been said and that has been said, but a lot of things have been said and not all have been 100% true. Call me skeptical, but I simply don't see anything that sets in stone that this IS GT7.

I still argue the person that thinks this is the "last game" (before its even out, which is silly considering sales determine that) due to missing features of past games is silly. Of course its not the same GT, "a New Direction" pretty much says it isn't but at the same time, "A new direction" doesn't automatically mean the end of the number series. I'm not buying that until the creator himself makes that clear, no more strangly suggested wording or really vague statements.

 

[ron86]

Should i still wait for an Interview with Kaz from GTPlanet and reports from Jordan or wont that happen?

 

[freedom1104]

Please, don't give me that. The setup is horrible, very hard to use. I am not even going to get into it because the evidence is crystal clear. NOBODY PLAYS AC ONLINE. Look at the numbers for yourself. At any one time there might be something like 30 people online at peak, if that (last time I looked there was 8, zero racing). But then also enter the rooms and count the actual number of people racing. Most of the time there isn't anyone in the world racing in AC. Now either you can believe that the total market for PC sim racing is you and some other guy, or that the multiplayer in AC is putting people off because it's so bad.

So you think AC is the only multiplayer PC sim racing title? and JohnnyPeso already show you the counts of players even at a random time is more than the number u speak of. Dont you think you are abit ignorant?

I may be wrong but I believe he just did because to my knowledge or what I believe I have read previously is the PS4 does not support triples, initially when I remember reading that I couldn't believe that they downgraded from the PS3 because you can do triple screens with the PS3. So if I am not mistaken and the PS4 can't actually do triples like I remember reading then by saying GTS will support triples he just confirmed that the NEo will support triples and this was one of the questions I had about the NEO, I wanted to know if it would bring triple support, if it would bring 1440p support and if it would bring freesync support and if it would support 144hz gaming monitors?

We know that the GPU said to be in the NEO is capable of running triples easily so to hear that GTS will support triple monitors is great news and there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to run all 3 monitors from a single NEO.

And that now makes what Kaz said in another interview much more understandable because when Kaz was asked about PSVR vs normal display he said that he though competitive people would use a regular display while those that wanted more immersion would prefer VR and this made no sense to me when I heard it but then he seemed to backstep a bit on that comment. In a straight PSVR vs TV fight I can't imagine any competitive gamer would choose a TV over PSVR and even in a 60hz monitor vs PSVR fight I still think the competitive advantage would once again go to the PSVR but if you can run a 144hz monitor or triples then I can easily understand why competitive gamers would choose either of those options over VR, this is already happening on PC.

Who says ps4 is downgraded from ps3 because it cant do triple screen at the moment? Do you actually know how GT on ps3 achieve the triple screen setup? basically its 3 ps3 each for one monitor and 3 pcs of GT disc in sync to sing the triple screen song. And i bet u PS4 can do the same for the triple screen.You can buy 3 set of PS4 + GTS with 3 TV to do triple screen.

In which source do you read that PS4 neo can easily run triple screen? do you mind share it here? PS4 neo is made solely to cater the needs for hardware for PS VR.

Your comparison is very ignorant by the facts. GTS is having at hard time reaching a stable 60fps even in 1080p mode, whats makes u think you have the edge of pc racing by having a 144hz monitor for GTS? You can had 3 pcs of 144hz monitor for GTS but the facts is GTS is aimed for 60fps 1080p gaming. its makes no different at all because GTS will be running @ 60fps when it came out. Even in PC if your pc hardware is not capable of running the game @ 144fps above, the facts that you used 144hz monitor is also useless.

 

[Nato_777]

...And that now makes what Kaz said in another interview much more understandable because when Kaz was asked about PSVR vs normal display he said that he though competitive people would use a regular display while those that wanted more immersion would prefer VR and this made no sense to me when I heard it...

I took it that Kaz was saying that for short periods of play VR was good but for longer stints he'd rather use a regular monitor which to me is admitting that the PSVR experience will give you nausea if you use it too long.

 

[freedom1104]

I took it that Kaz was saying that for short periods of play VR was good but for longer stints he'd rather use a regular monitor which to me is admitting that the PSVR experience will give you nausea if you use it too long.

i would think that Kaz had experience GTS in PSVR but due to the facts its fps is still no where near the standard set by sony (60fps minimum, best @ 90fps) , the experience is not a pleasure one. So he suggest player to play it on a TV. Can take a look at the video below. GTS's FPS still hovering below 60 fps

 

[nasanu]

Blatant falsehood:
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omg...

Please tell me you can figure out why you are completely wrong?..

Nevermind, if you could you wouldnt have posted that in the first place. Its sad, but I guess I need to explain what online and offline mean. Ok. So offline is traditional gameplay racing alone against AI. Online means racing against others in a live race over the internet.

The numbers you have quoted are for offline and thus have NOTHING to do with what I was talking about. In fact they will be great to backup my point about the number of offline players who shun online.

So you think AC is the only multiplayer PC sim racing title? and JohnnyPeso already show you the counts of players even at a random time is more than the number u speak of. Dont you think you are abit ignorant?

Oh god there is another of you. See above. And remember, AC is one of the most popular.

 

[freedom1104]

omg...

Please tell me you can figure out why you are completely wrong?..

Nevermind, if you could you wouldnt have posted that in the first place. Its sad, but I guess I need to explain what online and offline mean. Ok. So offline is traditional gameplay racing alone against AI. Online means racing against others in a live race over the internet.

The numbers you have quoted are for offline and thus have NOTHING to do with what I was talking about. In fact they will be great to backup my point about the number of offline players who shun online.



Oh god there is another of you. See above. And remember, AC is one of the most popular.

Do you know that many of AC online player are playing on their own dedicated server? any group that i joined for online session @ that particular time can easily outnumber the "30 plus online player only" story of yours.


and Yes AC is one of the most popular but not by its online multiplayer mode. You can try Iracing if you want more people to race with online on PC

 

[Tassie_tiger]

Perhaps this post will make it more clear.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/poll-will-you-buy-a-ps4-for-gts.337689/page-8#post-11433911



I may be wrong but I believe he just did because to my knowledge or what I believe I have read previously is the PS4 does not support triples, initially when I remember reading that I couldn't believe that they downgraded from the PS3 because you can do triple screens with the PS3. So if I am not mistaken and the PS4 can't actually do triples like I remember reading then by saying GTS will support triples he just confirmed that the NEo will support triples and this was one of the questions I had about the NEO, I wanted to know if it would bring triple support, if it would bring 1440p support and if it would bring freesync support and if it would support 144hz gaming monitors?

We know that the GPU said to be in the NEO is capable of running triples easily so to hear that GTS will support triple monitors is great news and there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to run all 3 monitors from a single NEO.

And that now makes what Kaz said in another interview much more understandable because when Kaz was asked about PSVR vs normal display he said that he though competitive people would use a regular display while those that wanted more immersion would prefer VR and this made no sense to me when I heard it but then he seemed to backstep a bit on that comment. In a straight PSVR vs TV fight I can't imagine any competitive gamer would choose a TV over PSVR and even in a 60hz monitor vs PSVR fight I still think the competitive advantage would once again go to the PSVR but if you can run a 144hz monitor or triples then I can easily understand why competitive gamers would choose either of those options over VR, this is already happening on PC.

As @freedom1104 has already described, a PS3 does not support triple screen mode.
Every monitor requires it's own console and it's own copy of the game.
Very few PS3 games had triple screen support, but GT5, GT6, and Baja did.
Baja on the XBox 360 also required 3 consoles.

So you could perhaps suggest it's the first confirmation of a triple screen PS4 game. (could be wrong)
And that GT Sport will support it.

But there's nothing to say regular PS4's hooked up in the same manner as described can't do triple screen, and that therefore Kaz must be talking 'Neo'.

 

[freedom1104]

As @freedom1104 has already described, a PS3 does not support triple screen mode.
Every monitor requires it's own console and it's own copy of the game.
Very few PS3 games had triple screen support, but GT5, GT6, and Baja did.
Baja on the XBox 360 also required 3 consoles.

So you could perhaps suggest it's the first confirmation of a triple screen PS4 game. (could be wrong)
And that GT Sport will support it.

But there's nothing to say regular PS4's hooked up in the same manner as described can't do triple screen, and that therefore Kaz must be talking 'Neo'.

Actually i watched the video this morning, i dont recalled any speech regarding achieving triple screen on a console (neo) confirmation by Kaz, i think he misinterpret what kaz told the isrtv personnel.

and Neo is borned solely by the needs of power for the PS VR/4k. not for triple screen. I doubt Neo will have 3 hdmi output.

 

[nasanu]

Do you know that many of AC online player are playing on their own dedicated server? any group that i joined for online session @ that particular time can easily outnumber the "30 plus online player only" story of yours.


and Yes AC is one of the most popular but not by its online multiplayer mode. You can try Iracing if you want more people to race with online on PC

You are a continent away from the point.

 

[7HO]

So basically, you also think that this game is GT7.

Not believing until I see it. I know this has been said and that has been said, but a lot of things have been said and not all have been 100% true. Call me skeptical, but I simply don't see anything that sets in stone that this IS GT7.

I still argue the person that thinks this is the "last game" (before its even out, which is silly considering sales determine that) due to missing features of past games is silly. Of course its not the same GT, "a New Direction" pretty much says it isn't but at the same time, "A new direction" doesn't automatically mean the end of the number series. I'm not buying that until the creator himself makes that clear, no more strangly suggested wording or really vague statements.

Like I said in the other post I am not sure how it could be made clearer but I'll try.

Question: What is the 7th full release title in the Gran Turismo series?

Answer: GTS

Question: Is GTS a Prologue?

Answer: No, not according to Kaz unless he is lying.

Question: Is Gran Turismo Sport a spin off?

Answer: No, not according to Kaz unless he is lying.

Question: If PD released a numbered title after GTS what position in the series would the next title be?

Answer: It would be the 8th full release title.

Question: Can a full release title be released as GT7 after GTS?

Answer: No, not logically. The next title will be the 8th full release title and if it is called GT7 that implies that either GTS is an in between title like a Prologue or that GTS is a spin off or a new branch running alongside the numbered series and we have been told that GTS is niether a spin off or a Prologue. More so if they released GT7 as a title that includes both the Sport part of the game and more in game features then that would confirm in peoples minds that GTS was actually a Prologue or an in between game and not a fully featured title as Kaz has claimed. So to call the next title GT7 would logically make what Kaz has already said a lie. Therefore if PD released a title called GT7 it would be very bad for the company now that they have said what they have said and logically if the next title was to return to a number it should only be called GT8 to avoid a negative market reaction.

Who says ps4 is downgraded from ps3 because it cant do triple screen at the moment?

If it is true that the PS4 does not support triple, me.

Do you actually know how GT on ps3 achieve the triple screen setup?

Of course otherwise I wouldn't have bothered mentioning it.

And i bet u PS4 can do the same for the triple screen.You can buy 3 set of PS4 + GTS with 3 TV to do triple screen.

You start off unsure but in your second sentence you state it so definitively. You will need to show me a source that says this is possible, I know people have used PC's and similar to display their PS4 on their PC triple display but I'm looking for a official source that says you can connect multi displays to a PS4. I can't find anything that says you can't anymore but I remember reading years ago that you couldn't and it was a main reason for me not wanting one at the time.

In which source do you read that PS4 neo can easily run triple screen?

Perhaps you misunderstood what I was saying. The NEO is over 4 Tflops which is more than enough to support triple monitors. At this spec there would be no need for more than one NEO to run triple monitors. Therefore if there is no need to own more than one NEO to support triples on NEO it would not make sense to support multi displays using 3 standard PS4's as no one would consider it due to the much larger price and it would require additional work to support.

Your comparison is very ignorant by the facts. GTS is having at hard time reaching a stable 60fps even in 1080p mode, whats makes u think you have the edge of pc racing by having a 144hz monitor for GTS? You can had 3 pcs of 144hz monitor for GTS but the facts is GTS is aimed for 60fps 1080p gaming. its makes no different at all. Even in PC if your pc hardware is not capable of running the game @ 144fps above, the facts that you used 144hz monitori is also useless.

No I'm not, you are. It may be having trouble reaching 60fps on a 1.84 Tflop PS4 but the 4.19 Tflop NEO will have no trouble running at 144fps. More so you don't seem to understand Adaptive Sync. Freesync only works below the displays refresh rate and actually only works within a defined range set by the manufacturer of the display so to use Freesync you must run at lower than 144 fps on a 144hz display, lower than 120fps on a 120hzs display and lower than 60 fps on a 60hz display. However most adaptive sync monitors report better input lag times running without adaptive sync at much higher frame rates but they actually can compete with input lag times of no adaptive sync gaming monitors running lower frame rates with adaptive sync on and many competitive gamers love being able to run with adaptive sync at around 120-140fps for that buttery smooth no tear gameplay combined with the benifit of ultra low input lag.

GTS is aimed at 60fps 1080p gaming on the PS4 and it must also support PSVR on the PS4 so you do not need the NEO for PSVR support. The NEO will support higher resolutions than 1080p and beyond that we don't really know much except that the hardware at 4.19 Tflops is more than capable of supporting 1440p resolution or triples or even a 144hz display. For comparison at 4.19 Tflops this places it halfway between a GTX970 and GTX980 in performance so yes more than capable of all the things I mentioned.

As @freedom1104 has already described, a PS3 does not support triple screen mode.

I never meant that it did, I know you need 3 PS3's and 3 copies of the game but you should read my reply to him above in this post.

Actually i watched the video this morning, i dont recalled any speech regarding achieving triple screen on a console (neo) confirmation by Kaz, i think he misinterpret what kaz told the isrtv personnel.

and Neo is borned solely by the needs of power for the PS VR/4k. not for triple screen. I doubt Neo will have 3 hdmi output.

I was obviously talking about the mention in the video so yes what Kaz said to John. And call it a misinterpretation if you want but I've detailed above why I believe that because any other way would be ridiculous considering the NEO has the performance potential to support triples on its own.