Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

[jm79]

I'm making quite safe assumptions.

So, let's test your conviction here.

"I assume that the game will offer an option to alter sound volume".

Are you going to vehemently argue against this too, even though we dont specifically know this at all?

Or are you only going to argue against assumptions that you perceive(however ignorantly) are attacks against GT?

You can try and stick to what you think is a 'win' at this stage because of unknowns, but you're being supremely disingenuous and you know it, because my reasoning is solid and I think you know that, too.

Vehement, ignorant and disingenuous now, to go with contrary fool?

Easy now.

We're talking about a videogame.

 

[driver_34_]

How many more times are you going to make this claim? Once again nobody else is mentioning that game, just you. Try to have a discussion without labelling people.

You, imari,jonnypenso,imarobot,freedom1104 seanspeed ecc. all gt haters,because try to criticize everything about gt even the problem dosn't exist in the game.

 

[ImaRobot]

You, imari,jonnypenso,imarobot,freedom1104 all gt haters,because try to criticize everything about gt even the problem dosn't exist in the game.

Except, again, no one was hating on it. I even acknowledged that the casual approach isnt a bad thing. Again, try posting relevant things in this conversation instead of blanket terms that make absolutely no sense given the context of the discussion.

 

[jm79]

Ah man, I can feel the ban hammer approaching...

Chill everyone!

It's a game!

 

[freedom1104]

Ah man, I can feel the ban hammer approaching...

Chill everyone!

It's a game!

If anyone would be banned. I think he deserved it :3

You, imari,jonnypenso,imarobot,freedom1104 seanspeed ecc. all gt haters,because try to criticize everything about gt even the problem dosn't exist in the game.

I had done 560xxx Km in GT6 and i very well aware what problem existed in GT comparing to others racing game.


Can you quote which problem i stated that doesnt exist? please?

Lift off oversteer issue = already pointed out by player who tested yesterday(gt6)
Frame rates unstable + drops = already proven
Replays had Jagginess = stated by John from ISRTV

Which of the above is untrue ?

 

[driver_34_]

If anyone would be banned. I think he deserved it :3



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I had done 560xxx Km in GT6 and i very well aware what problem existed in GT comparing to others racing game.


Can you quote which problem i stated that doesnt exist? please?

Lift off oversteer issue = already pointed out by player who tested yesterday
Frame rates unstable + drops = already proven
Replays had Jagginess = stated by John from ISRTV

Which of the above is untrue ?

Lift oversteer you claimed that is non existent is completely false

 

[Samus]

You, imari,jonnypenso,imarobot,freedom1104 seanspeed ecc. all gt haters,because try to criticize everything about gt even the problem dosn't exist in the game.

Unless you have evidence to support your accusations I suggest you think again before repeating them.

Time and time again this topic is brought up by someone and time and time again they will be told that people are free to post what they want as long as it adheres to the AUP. If you think something doesn't, then report it. Otherwise i'm afraid you're just going to have to live with what is posted and refrain from calling people names because you disagree with their opinion.

 

[freedom1104]

Lift oversteer you claimed that is non existent is completely false

had you try to lift off oversteer in GTS yet?

 

[Grandea GTR]

Love or hate, everyone has their own perspective on games, well not just games, anything really. Those are opinions.

Opinions are why discussions like this exists.

 

[driver_34_]

So I finally tried a GTS build today, at the Australian GT Academy qualifier. Here's my impressions, taken from the GTA thread:

I rushed back home and immediately drove the same car-track combo in GT6 to compare.

IMO, GTS is pretty underwhelming. Graphics look good but the physics are only marginally improved over GT6. I think GT5 to GT6 is a bigger leap than GT6 to GTS tbh. Lift off oversteer is more pronounced (entry to Paddock Hill and Dingle Dell is especially tricky). Previously you can only get lift off oversteer if you turn ABS off in GT6, but GTS with ABS on you also get it. Corner exit throttle management is also more sensitive, coming out of Druids you can just floor it in GT6 but I had to catch a slide a couple times in GTS. Aside from that, mid corner behaviour is pretty much the same. Engine braking behaviour is also the same. Disappointingly, I can feel a hint of the "Ridge Racer" style braking exploit still present in the physics. Going into Stirlings bend I can get an extra rotation using this. No, it's not as bad as 2015 GT Academy (Round 2 was also GT-R GT3 at Brands), but it's still there.

Wheel FFB I can't comment much because I have a G25 at home so it's not a direct comparison. I have to say the T300 doesn't impress me that much. It's smoother but it doesn't give any extra info that my G25 already provides. Maybe it's just the FFT settings though. I run FFT 10 at home and everything just feels stronger. GTS feels flaky and numb by comparison. Again, could just be the wheel so don't take this as gospel.

Sounds are slightly improved. They provide headphones so I don't know how much that improves things. The basic sound of the GT-R is the same, but the turbo BOVs are very pronounced on lift off and downshifting. Oddly I don't think the real car has those sounds, but it does make the game less sterile.

AI wise they seem to be more aware of surroundings. Still pretty slow though. In the 2 lap pre-quali I started last and got to 3rd by the end of lap 1, and passed the 1st place guy just at the finish line. I made 2-3 mistakes in that race. Could be just the difficulty is put on Easy, but with PD, I gave up on AI a long time ago. Damage is also non-existent. Same bumper car affair of past games.

I think that's all I can glean from the short experience. I'm doing this to get a feel for GTS and the T300 more than GT Academy Sad to say I'm not really impressed. I'll probably still get GTS but it'll be more for the photomode Scapes more than the actual driving. After comparing with GT6 I also did a few laps in AC with the same combo, and the difference in physics and FFB is just from another world.

My quick laptime comparisons (4 laps each, stock car settings, driving options as close as I can remember):
GTS 1.26.9xx (RS)
GT6 1.24 (RH), 1.22 (RS)
AC 1.28 (RS on low fuel)

Anyway, I just ran 6 laps total, with a new wheel, in an unfamiliar cockpit, and I don't know how old this build is. But safe to say GTS isn't going to be a huge jump in terms of physics. Disappointing, but not totally unexpected

had you try to lift off oversteer in GTS yet?

See...

 

[Grandea GTR]

See...

But that doesn't really adhere to his question. Have you tried doing it in GTS?

 

[driver_34_]

But that doesn't really adhere to his question. Have you tried doing it in GTS?

It doesn't change if i try the game or another person, the feature is there... in another post he claimed that lift off oversteer even doesn't exist...

 

[freedom1104]

See...

Then Im sorry. Its a good thing they improved from GT6.
What about other 2 ? did all my claims became false?

Does that give u the right to point finger to people ? Had you tried the game ?

It doesn't change if i try the game or another person, the feature is there... in another post he claimed that lift off oversteer even doesn't exist...

Obviously The " lift off doesnt exist" is me and ridox talking about "lift off oversteer in stock car in GT6". Do you not do any research before pointing finger?

IF you dont think this is an issue. Check this out.


https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/no-ff-lift-off-oversteer.293591/page-2
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...o-be-aware-of-updated-poll-7-27.331717/page-3

Why there are people pointing this out before me ? So if people are pointing out issue they experience , they are hater then ?

 

[TS050]

You, imari,jonnypenso,imarobot,freedom1104 seanspeed ecc. all gt haters,because try to criticize everything about gt even the problem dosn't exist in the game.

This is just so untrue that it isn't even funny

 

[driver_34_]

Then Im sorry. Its a good thing they improved from GT6.
What about other 2 ? did all my claims became false?

Does that give u the right to point finger to people ? Had you tried the game ?

Lift off oversteer is there it doesn't change if i try or not, same with gt6 you claimed that lift off oversteer isn't there even you have the game...now the explanation is that or you never driven without abs in gt6 or you just talk by hate,i have no other explanation.

 

[Heavyduke]

Lift off oversteer is there it doesn't change if i try or not, same with gt6 you claimed that lift off oversteer isn't there even you have the game...now the explanation is that or you never driven without abs in gt6 or you just talk by hate,i have no other explanation.

 

[freedom1104]

Lift off oversteer is there it doesn't change if i try or not, same with gt6 you claimed that lift off oversteer isn't there even you have the game...now the explanation is that or you never driven without abs in gt6 or you just talk by hate,i have no other explanation.

Do i had to mention stock FF car with stock setup in gt6 again and again ? Why dont you make a video and show me.

You haven't answer me, does all my claim are false story ?

 

[Heavyduke]

Do i had to mention stock FF car with stock setup in gt6 again and again ?

Why do you have to talk about a stock car again?

 

[freedom1104]

Why do we have to talk about a stock car again?

because the original post is me and ridox talking about stock car in stock setup in gt6 and lift off oversteer,

Surely you guys would want to know we actually discuss this other than here.

That's not my point. My point is not all STOCK GT6 cars have this. (With me anyway)

Me and ridox are more focus on FF and 4wd stocks.

 

[Heavyduke]

because the original post is me and ridox talking about stock car in stock setup in gt6 and lift off oversteer,

That's not my point. My point is not all STOCK GT6 cars have this. (With me anyway)

 

[freedom1104]

The last refuge of the incompetent poster. General slander.

A. I don't now and never have played Forza.
B. I was playing GT when you were just out of diapers and have played every game with easily 100's of thousands of km's logged.
C. My only reason for buying a console, if I buy one, will be for GTS. Every other game I want or need is on pc.
D. You need to get out from behind your keyboard and learn that one can both love a game/franchise and be critical of it at the same time.

I'm with you here.

A. I don't and never played forza. ( never had a XBOX or 360 or xbox1)
B. I played GT since i was 13 years old. Remembering my GT2 tahiti maze with R34
C.Same. I bought Ps3 for GT solely. If ps4 would had claim my money, it would be GTS / GT7
D.He definitely need to get out of his keyboard and learn one can both love a game and be critical of it at the same time.

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E. He should at least tried other stuff out there to be replying to us like the way he is. His reply is always like GT is my alpha and omega. And he making stupid claim on stuff which already came out and he haven tried based on a video.

 

[Samus]

Yes critical... in every negative comment about gt it is one like of yours.

People are allowed to be critical, you're going to have to get used to it. Either reply to their point or ignore it rather than just calling them names.

 

[Heavyduke]

Why does everybody have to complain all the time? 2-3 pages just from 1 disagreement. With anything anybody says the other person doesn't like what I said before they complain and it goes just goes on and on and on. Figure out something....

 

[Grandea GTR]

Yes critical... in every negative comment about gt it is one like of yours.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Yes critical... in every negative comment about gt it is one like of yours.

You need to get out from behind your keyboard and learn that one can both love a game/franchise and be critical of it at the same time.

 

[Grandea GTR]

You need to get out from behind your keyboard and learn that one can both love a game/franchise and be critical of it at the same time.

Unfortunately, not many people can recognize that.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Why does everybody have to complain all the time? 2-3 pages just from 1 disagreement. With anything anybody says the other person doesn't like what I said before they complain and it goes just goes on and on and on. Figure out something....

Everyone doesn't. Disagreeing with someone who makes an unprovable or ludicrous statement isn't negativity IMO anyway it's more like taking out the trash. It's a crappy job but someone has to do it

 

[Heavyduke]

Everyone doesn't. Disagreeing with someone who makes an unprovable or ludicrous statement isn't negativity IMO anyway it's more like taking out the trash. It's a crappy job but someone has to do it

 

[Johnnypenso]

stuff

Doesn't apply, sorry. This isn't an opinion, it's a factual statement that's either true or not true. In my case and the case of others, who have never played Forza, it's blatantly untrue. Posting statements that are untruthful is against the AUP. If you'd like to support people posting untruthful statements under the pretense of being an "opinion" and therefore not subject to retort, by all means, go right ahead.

Ignore them, just forza fanboys, they always try to put under bad light gt , even if maybe gt will have sim physic they will not admit this so just ignore.

 

[TeamCZRRacing]

The last refuge of the incompetent poster. General slander.

A. I don't now and never have played Forza.
B. I was playing GT when you were just out of diapers and have played every game with easily 100's of thousands of km's logged.
C. My only reason for buying a console, if I buy one, will be for GTS. Every other game I want or need is on pc.
D. You need to get out from behind your keyboard and learn that one can both love a game/franchise and be critical of it at the same time.

No idea why your posts are still showing up for me even after I've ignored you, but what was that you keep telling me about playing the ball and not the man?