Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

[SlipZtrEm]

@SlipZtrEm Yesterday at Willow there was this guy in the lotus spanking everyone I was actually pleased to see this. Hopefully they balance the grid out better.

Yeah, the Evora does seem relatively competitive there for us mere mortals. It does require a lot more care through corners though compared to the set-it-and-forget-it Evo.

 

[JDMKING13]

I was in those races and finished 2nd to him 3 times in a row. My TTS gets killed off the line and would drop 2 or 3 spots before turn 1. It is really good for the rest of the race though, and I was able to get back my spots within a lap or so.

Whats up man you are fast as heck! Its always good to see a fellow GTP member representing! My middle name is Patrick also so maybe I can be just as fast as you if people start calling me Patrick!

 

[Grandea GTR]

Yeah, the Evora does seem relatively competitive there for us mere mortals. It does require a lot more care through corners though compared to the set-it-and-forget-it Evo.

This.

It's a fast car, but can set itself loose if not used right, being 2WD. Thus requiring a lot more throttle management compared to the Evo X.

 

[kingpen]

haha just to confirm what has already been written about the Gr.4 class. That moment you're pushing the limits with the VW Scirocco and set a 1:55 low and then check the top 10 times. I think the GT-R is the car you need to set a good time

BTW if any one has a better time with the Scirocco pls share your setup in the appropriate setu topic. Thx!!

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I've come to realize that no matter what you think is a good lap time, somebody else always blows it out of the water. Leaves you wondering if the track has some hidden shortcuts

 

[Grandea GTR]

I've come to realize that no matter what you think is a good lap time, somebody else always blows it out of the water. Leaves you wondering if the track has some hidden shortcuts

Some tracks, like Dragon Trail, have some corners you can somewhat cut and still not get penalized. I wonder if that would be the case for some of the top times.

 

[matty_234]

Some tracks, like Dragon Trail, have some corners you can somewhat cut and still not get penalized. I wonder if that would be the case for some of the top times.

There's seconds in cutting the track there.. Can basically fully cut the last chicane before the final corner keeping the car flat out through it.

 

[bokimoto]

.. Can basically fully cut the last chicane before the final corner keeping the car flat out through it.

almost fully ... it is possible to incur a cutting penalty if you take too much off the first bit

 

[GENERALSAVANT]

I hope they focus on the BoP because it'll be all one make races at the top if they don't. Be a shame to have a game this beautiful with such a small car list and still have one or two cars dominate every class. Standing starts also have to go if they are going to mix up drivetrains or it'll have the same effect.

I hope so to. the standing starts are really not that bad from a 2wd car, yes the AWD are easier to launch, but there's things you can do to almost neutralize that gap.

 

[PorscheHD]

Wow i managed 7min on the nordschleife with group 3 evo! Im so proud haha

 

[Scaff]

Same here in the U.S., it's all dominated by the GTR. I can’t imagine PD's big concern is getting the cars even. All the work seems to be going into making the online function as best as possible under full load. But my friend said it best “GTR is like god mode on the beta,” I don’t have a GTR so I wouldn’t know but he says it super easy to drive on the limit and hence the low lap times.

I have it and it utterly absurd, you can keep the throttle wide open when you on grass, rumble strips, gravel, etc. even with TC switched off.

I won my very first GTS race with it, started on pole and didn't even need to worry about anyone behind, 13 odd second margin by the end without pushing.

 

[TeamCZRRacing]

Changing the subject a little bit, as I've played I think I've discovered a potential issue with SR. (Side note: I'm not sure if SR affects your ranking at all, so if it doesn't, please either ignore this or correct me.)

If it's true that ghosting is disabled when you reach class C, then I can see this becoming a vicious cycle due to how sensitive the ghosting system in the E and D classes are. Make one unexpected move and the car ghosts, making it easier to maintain your SR as it significantly reduces the chance of an impact. However, some drivers in E and D classes either aren't good enough to stay out of trouble without ghosting, or intentionally drive in a way that abuses the system. For these guys, they're in for a rude awakening once they get to C class and they find themselves being hit with SR penalties everywhere for actions that were previously OK, which would then demote them back to D class where they can earn that SR back, thus continuing the cycle.

 

[GENERALSAVANT]

I have it and it utterly absurd, you can keep the throttle wide open when you on grass, rumble strips, gravel, etc. even with TC switched off.

I won my very first GTS race with it, started on pole and didn't even need to worry about anyone behind, 13 odd second margin by the end without pushing.

And that's the hard part of regulating BOP, you can all have the same HP and weight but if your cars handling is absurdly good then the BOP is pointless.

 

[Fryto]

Changing the subject a little bit, as I've played I think I've discovered a potential issue with SR. (Side note: I'm not sure if SR affects your ranking at all, so if it doesn't, please either ignore this or correct me.)

If it's true that ghosting is disabled when you reach class C, then I can see this becoming a vicious cycle due to how sensitive the ghosting system in the E and D classes are. Make one unexpected move and the car ghosts, making it easier to maintain your SR as it significantly reduces the chance of an impact. However, some drivers in E and D classes either aren't good enough to stay out of trouble without ghosting, or intentionally drive in a way that abuses the system. For these guys, they're in for a rude awakening once they get to C class and they find themselves being hit with SR penalties everywhere for actions that were previously OK, which would then demote them back to D class where they can earn that SR back, thus continuing the cycle.

This isn't iRacing. The SR doesn't influence your class.

 

[bdj57]

So US beta still unplayable? Wish things sorted out for all of you guys here who got the US beta.

 

[BrainsBush]

I have it and it utterly absurd, you can keep the throttle wide open when you on grass, rumble strips, gravel, etc. even with TC switched off.

I won my very first GTS race with it, started on pole and didn't even need to worry about anyone behind, 13 odd second margin by the end without pushing.

With your quali time and the gap with #2 you would expect you would be classified in a group with more equal times?
May be this is also part of the beta to test the auto classification system?

Nice win though (but too easy, right?)

 

[TeamCZRRacing]

This isn't iRacing. The SR doesn't influence your class.

Got it, thanks.

 

[EDK]

This isn't iRacing. The SR doesn't influence your class.

I've seen it said in the Private Beta forums (by PD Developers) that there is a minimum required SR to rise to or remain in specific classes. He doesn't call out that number, and it might actually be quite low.

But there is a small amount of correlation there, if you drop below a particular SR, it sounds like it would also drop your driver rating.

 

[Scaff]

With your quali time and the gap with #2 you would expect you would be classified in a group with more equal times?
May be this is also part of the beta to test the auto classification system?

Nice win though (but too easy, right?)

To be honest I will take the win, but it was a rather dull way to spend five laps.

 

[Goruk]

Question: where can i access the beta forums on the computer?

 

[Fryto]

I've seen it said in the Private Beta forums (by PD Developers) that there is a minimum required SR to rise to or remain in specific classes. He doesn't call out that number, and it might actually be quite low.

But there is a small amount of correlation there, if you drop below a particular SR, it sounds like it would also drop your driver rating.

Thanks, didn't know that. From the in-game description it seemed like they're not related.

 

[EDK]

Question: where can i access the beta forums on the computer?

You should have received details with your invite. I do not have the link for the EU beta forums, and I wouldn't post the link in public view anyhow.

 

[Goruk]

You should have received details with your invite. I do not have the link for the EU beta forums, and I wouldn't post the link in public view anyhow.

Yes i did , i´ve only saw the code..

After reading the e-mail i´ve notice this: "Voucher code expires: 01/09/2017" does this mean the beta will be playable till september?

 

[EDK]

After reading the e-mail i´ve notice this: "Voucher code expires: 01/09/2017" does this mean the beta will be playable till september?

We're not sure, it could be that they have a standard time frame they put on Beta codes for expiration.

But the way things are right now, we can only play the Beta when they put up online events.

In the US right now, we have none, so all we can do is look at our cars or tune them without driving.

 

[numbnuts70]

We're not sure, it could be that they have a standard time frame they put on Beta codes for expiration.

But the way things are right now, we can only play the Beta when they put up online events.

In the US right now, we have none, so all we can do is look at our cars or tune them without driving.

Sorry to hear that, so that's a month to the calender date that the US has been playing it - logic dictates the EU beta will be going for approximately another 3-3.5 weeks.

 

[timekiller001]

Did you see the leaderboard for the Willow Springs race (EU)? There's almost a 10 second gap between the first and tenth. And no, I'm not looking at my friends' leaderboard.

That's fishy

 

[trustjab]

Did you see the leaderboard for the Willow Springs race (EU)? There's almost a 10 second gap between the first and tenth. And no, I'm not looking at my friends' leaderboard.

That's fishy

They driving through the desert again?

 

[BMWGTRSTI]

Did you see the leaderboard for the Willow Springs race (EU)? There's almost a 10 second gap between the first and tenth. And no, I'm not looking at my friends' leaderboard.

That's fishy

They cut the track on the middle

 

[ryzno]

Dang it man. Finally unlocked my 2nd N300 last night and nowhere to test it today.

BTW 2015 Ford Focus ST.

 

[kingpen]

Dang it man. Finally unlocked my 2nd N300 and nowhere to test it.

BTW 2015 Ford Focus ST.

If you're in the US and have no way to drive, how did you unlock it?

 

[baldgye]

I've seen it said in the Private Beta forums (by PD Developers) that there is a minimum required SR to rise to or remain in specific classes. He doesn't call out that number, and it might actually be quite low.

But there is a small amount of correlation there, if you drop below a particular SR, it sounds like it would also drop your driver rating.

How do you get into the private forum? Everytime I try and login it just loads a totally blank page, is it only avalible through the game?