Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

[Outspacer]

I'm tunelexic (means I can't tune!)

Maybe you mean 'dystunic'

 

[GT Sport]

For those who have the BETA.
Can we race anytime we want or do we have to wait for scheduled races?
Also, do you need Ps Plus in order to play online?
Some said you just need internet connection

 

[PzR Slim]

Interesting, I mainly stick to GT3 cars because they're the easiest to drive I find.

I see many people who have issues with warming the tyres in Project Cars. And cold tyres in Project Cars are very tricky. Is this the issue you were having or was the issue still there even when the tyres were warm?

 

[sems4arsenal]

I see many people who have issues with warming the tyres in Project Cars. And cold tyres in Project Cars are very tricky. Is this the issue you were having or was the issue still there even when the tyres were warm?

It's mostly the braking, I should mention that I struggle to push the cars to their max, if I drive within 80-90% it is mostly fine. When racing against AI, they brake significantly later than me and I end up locking the wheels. I should mention that I drove the Jag Palmer LMP car in real life and although it's one of the easier cars to drive in the game, in real life it was so planted with a lot of grip that I could push in real life much easier.

Yesterday I was racing with the Mclaren MP4 12C GT3 and I had the tail get loose in 2-3 occasions for no reason at all. It's the unpredictability that annoys me.

 

[kingpen]

Must sound odd to the rest of you but in my many years of playing Gran Turismo I've never used manual transmission until a few days ago. Shifting on a controller always just seemed too cumbersome. But I realized for GT Sport, guys are just too fast and changing my habits is the only way to fully enjoy the game.

Now I'm still not very good, and I've had a pretty bad last few days race-wise, but I'm REALLY enjoying it.

 

[GENERALSAVANT]

So after I swore off ever winning an online race due to WAAC (win at all cost) drivers, I log in and win back to back races at the new dragons tail track. Funny how life works. My setup was plagued with understeer so I had a few ugly moments but these were my 1st laps in the SLS and on this track. You can see the adjustments to the brake bias around the fast section lol still getting used to being able to adjust on the fly. Enjoy

 

[Tired Tyres]

Must sound odd to the rest of you but in my many years of playing Gran Turismo I've never used manual transmission until a few days ago. Shifting on a controller always just seemed too cumbersome. But I realized for GT Sport, guys are just too fast and changing my habits is the only way to fully enjoy the game.

Now I'm still not very good, and I've had a pretty bad last few days race-wise, but I'm REALLY enjoying it.

I used auto gears and a pad from the first GT all the way to GT5P. I changed to manual as soon as I got a wheel. If I go back to the pad, for some reason, I switch back to auto gears.

 

[kingpen]

For those who have the BETA.
Can we race anytime we want or do we have to wait for scheduled races?
Also, do you need Ps Plus in order to play online?
Some said you just need internet connection

For races you have to wait till they are scheduled. You can only do hotlaps to qualify when those races aren't open for entry. No, you don't need PS Plus to play

 

[kingpen]

If I ever had a wheel it would have been manual all the way. But I've never owned one and don't see myself owning one soon unless it was a gift. Shifting on the controller takes some getting used to but its an added challenge that makes the game more fun for me.

I got in with @MadMax's second account. I got the Evora N300, the Corvette Gr4 and STI Gr3. The marathon got me the AMG GT3. The Corvette and STI are Understeer Turismo. The Evora was better. Not in love with the physics.

Nor am I.

Having had a few days with it now I have to say i think its gone backwards from the Copper Box.

The race spec cars feel dull and uncommunicative, the Evora us alive but seems to only want to oversteer, which is not a problem as a huge amount of assistance is in place when you do. I now am a better drift master than Chris Harris.

Oh and you can abuse the hell out of the track limits, with the GTR you can use full throttle on grass, over curves, gravel, etc. Even with the TC off. No pickup on the tyres after going off track as well.

I seriously want what we had at the Copper Box back, as this is pretty but I'm not impressed with the direction of the physics at present

Question to all of you, the main complaint with the beta seems to be the FFB. Would you say it is a downgrade to GT6? or is it lacking details?

Edit: Someone on Physics thread stated that you need to manually set the wheels rotation settings everytime you exit the track.

Its improved from GT6, however its not as good as a well set-up PCars or AC.

Personally I found it better at the Copper Box, however I am going to try the manual setting of DoR on my wheel to see if that makes a difference.

However the 'ring is better than Brands, and both are better than Willow of Dragon Trail (which I personally don't like - its go no run off, curbs wider than a car that you can abuse too much and just doesn't gel for me.

 

[GT Sport]

For races you have to wait till they are scheduled. You can only do hotlaps to qualify when those races aren't open for entry. No, you don't need PS Plus to play

Thank you very much for the info!
It's downloading right now.

 

[GT Sport]

@kingpen also, is it possible to join a friend's session?

 

[Scaff]

@kingpen also, is it possible to join a friend's session?

Its not.

And please don't double post (as in post two messages within quick succession in the same thread), please use the edit function.

 

[numbnuts70]

Why are PD persisting in using different units for each region/country for suspension/power etc? What a ball ache, just have it all as lb/ft or kgf/mm, one or the other.

Force feedback seems to be different on my wheel (G29) today, whether adjustment wasn't working before or it's been tweaked, I'm not sure.

Another thing is, I adjusted my brake pedal via the pc to get 100%-ish braking without having to chase my wheelstand around the room - it works on the TT offline but found it reverted back to normal online yesterday.

 

[Matej]

Regarding the sales, all I can say is that the beta will affect sale results of the full game. It's like a double-edged sword.

 

[numbnuts70]

I used auto gears and a pad from the first GT all the way to GT5P. I changed to manual as soon as I got a wheel. If I go back to the pad, for some reason, I switch back to auto gears.

Yeah haha, same here, I could never co-ordinate the stick etc with gears.

 

[BrainsBush]

haha just to confirm what has already been written about the Gr.4 class. That moment you're pushing the limits with the VW Scirocco and set a 1:55 low and then check the top 10 times. I think the GT-R is the car you need to set a good time

BTW if any one has a better time with the Scirocco pls share your setup in the appropriate setu topic. Thx!!

 

[Johnnypenso]

haha just to confirm what has already been written about the Gr.4 class. That moment you're pushing the limits with the VW Scirocco and set a 1:55 low and then check the top 10 times. I think the GT-R is the car you need to set a good time

BTW if any one has a better time with the Scirocco pls share your setup in the appropriate setu topic. Thx!!

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Ti-tech on top..some things never change. Let's hope they sort out this BoP through the beta because this shows a dramatic imbalance.

 

[JamboGT]

The Scirocco is capable of 52s, but the GTR is just a bit faster, match that with the starts it is capable of and you are in trouble by the first corner.

 

[PzR Slim]

haha just to confirm what has already been written about the Gr.4 class. That moment you're pushing the limits with the VW Scirocco and set a 1:55 low and then check the top 10 times. I think the GT-R is the car you need to set a good time

BTW if any one has a better time with the Scirocco pls share your setup in the appropriate setu topic. Thx!!

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I've managed a 53.5xx with the Scirocco but that is with a stock tune so would be very thankful for a decent tune also.

 

[GENERALSAVANT]

haha just to confirm what has already been written about the Gr.4 class. That moment you're pushing the limits with the VW Scirocco and set a 1:55 low and then check the top 10 times. I think the GT-R is the car you need to set a good time

BTW if any one has a better time with the Scirocco pls share your setup in the appropriate setu topic. Thx!!

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Same here in the U.S., it's all dominated by the GTR. I can’t imagine PD's big concern is getting the cars even. All the work seems to be going into making the online function as best as possible under full load. But my friend said it best “GTR is like god mode on the beta,” I don’t have a GTR so I wouldn’t know but he says it super easy to drive on the limit and hence the low lap times.

 

[Fredzy]

Yesterday I was racing with the Mclaren MP4 12C GT3 and I had the tail get loose in 2-3 occasions for no reason at all. It's the unpredictability that annoys me.

"Unpredictability" pretty much sums up my issues as well. I went back a few times and was able to improve things with some FFB adjustments but couldn't get into it.

haha just to confirm what has already been written about the Gr.4 class. That moment you're pushing the limits with the VW Scirocco and set a 1:55 low and then check the top 10 times. I think the GT-R is the car you need to set a good time

BTW if any one has a better time with the Scirocco pls share your setup in the appropriate setu topic. Thx!!

Gosh, the whole top 10 in the 51's. I haven't checked the NA top 10 in a while but I was on it with a 1:53 Sunday night

I like Dragon Trail a lot despite the surface being so pristine and smooth. It reminds me of Spa, like they could be siblings. I'm guessing there's a lot of time to be made by getting greedy over the curbs. I hope the full game top 10 board lets you watch replays as per usual.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Same here in the U.S., it's all dominated by the GTR. I can’t imagine PD's big concern is getting the cars even. All the work seems to be going into making the online function as best as possible under full load. But my friend said it best “GTR is like god mode on the beta,” I don’t have a GTR so I wouldn’t know but he says it super easy to drive on the limit and hence the low lap times.

I hope they focus on the BoP because it'll be all one make races at the top if they don't. Be a shame to have a game this beautiful with such a small car list and still have one or two cars dominate every class. Standing starts also have to go if they are going to mix up drivetrains or it'll have the same effect.

 

[queleuleu]

Regarding the sales, all I can say is that the beta will affect sale results of the full game. It's like a double-edged sword.

And instead of showing the most visually impressive tracks, they give us Dragon Trail, a nice track but a WIP.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Who's arguing?
I was putting forward some thoughts based on personal experience.
And it seemed clear to me that people left GT6 early in preference to getting a PS4.
It therefore, IMO, is logical to conclude that others simply didn't bother getting it at all for the same reason.

Look up the meaning of "argument": it doesn't have to mean a heated exchange.

What you've just described is a very different thing than the suggestion Sony was the party that decided which system the game was set for.

But I will bite at your comment regarding software companies business structures being irrelevant to me.
It's not because it suits my "argument", it's because my dollar is equally spent to purchase these varying games.
What each company does in the background is of no importance to me.
I get the kudos given to a small company.
I get the budget comparisons.
But the end result is me spending near enough the same money to purchase these products.
Whether the company behind making these products is making a profit or loss, or undermanned, or has a massive corporate backing, is of little consequence to me.

Which is it, then?

But to be comparing 5 games sales on a direct competitive console with 1 game on the other major console, at some stage it's worth questioning exactly how well the alternative is travelling.

It's a bit like saying Chevy should be concerned that it's never been able to take the sales crown from Ford's F-150 in over three decades, even though the combined Silverado and Sierra sales are higher. T10/Microsoft have taken a different approach to Sony/PD's, that's all.

Same here in the U.S., it's all dominated by the GTR. I can’t imagine PD's big concern is getting the cars even. All the work seems to be going into making the online function as best as possible under full load. But my friend said it best “GTR is like god mode on the beta,” I don’t have a GTR so I wouldn’t know but he says it super easy to drive on the limit and hence the low lap times.

There's really no contest in Gr.4 right now, much like N300 with the Evo. You really do have to be ham-fisted to muck up the GT-R, which not only benefits the aliens, but even the casuals. The Mustang Gr.4, with stock settings, will kick its tail out in constant-radius third-gear corners with little to no warning.

I do wonder how BoP will translate to the entire track lineup in the full game. FM6 uses a similar system to previous GTs (PI vs PP), and there are certain styles of car tuning that are better suited to specific tracks. The front-drivers in N300 tend to have the edge in top speed terms, I've found. Perhaps that's why we're seeing so many fantasy circuits...

 

[MXH]

Ti-tech on top..some things never change. Let's hope they sort out this BoP through the beta because this shows a dramatic imbalance.

I raced in the same lobby as Ti-tech (isn't he a member here?) last night and didn't see him and his GTR after the first sector on Dragon Trail. The guy obliterated us by 20+ seconds.

 

[JDMKING13]

@SlipZtrEm Yesterday at Willow there was this guy in the lotus spanking everyone I was actually pleased to see this. Hopefully they balance the grid out better.

 

[JamboGT]

The TT seems a better bet at Willow, looks much better through the long corners than the Lancer, Lancer better on brakes though.

 

[JDMKING13]

The TT seems a better bet at Willow, looks much better through the long corners than the Lancer, Lancer better on brakes though.

Yea the Audi TTS is competitive also at Willow.

 

[GTP_Patrick1]

@SlipZtrEm Yesterday at Willow there was this guy in the lotus spanking everyone I was actually pleased to see this. Hopefully they balance the grid out better.

I was in those races and finished 2nd to him 3 times in a row. My TTS gets killed off the line and would drop 2 or 3 spots before turn 1. It is really good for the rest of the race though, and I was able to get back my spots within a lap or so.

 

[matty_234]

I'm also finding certain cars are way quicker than others, mainly in race situations though. FWD cars get absolutely killed off the line. Started pole in every Gr.4 race I've done so far and normally end up about 6th by T1 with the Scirocco.

But then I guess (although annoying), that's realistic as in any types of racing where different drivetrains are used there's always huge differences between cars at the start.