Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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Pcars does a reasonable job, certainly better than GTS as it is now.

AC is far better than GTS in this regard, and in terms of road cars better than Pcars as well.

The way in which AC communicates load transfer, particularly under braking and during corner transitions is the benchmark for the PS4 at this time.
So if the priority is physics then I should go with AC?! I have AC and PC on my hdd. GTS beta too.
I love the day night and weather transitions in PC. It's such an awesome change of atmosphere sometimes....

Thing is, I wish I could pick one of these 3 racing games and have all the good stuff in it. :) I don't have the time to fully enjoy every title for its own good stuff. I want the best (what's possible) of everything put into one game! :D ...one is aloud to have a dream, right?! ;)

And thank you again.
 
So if the priority is physics then I should go with AC?! I have AC and PC on my hdd. GTS beta too.
I love the day night and weather transitions in PC. It's such an awesome change of atmosphere sometimes....

Thing is, I wish I could pick one of these 3 racing games and have all the good stuff in it. :) I don't have the time to fully enjoy every title for its own good stuff. I want the best (what's possible) of everything put into one game! :D ...one is aloud to have a dream, right?! ;)

And thank you again.
In my view yes, currently AC is the benchmark for vehicle dynamics and physics on the PS4.

I agree it would be great to have them all in one title, until then I intend to make the most of what we do have, after all its been a long time since we have had this degree of choice on console, and we still have more to come.
 
So if the priority is physics then I should go with AC?! I have AC and PC on my hdd. GTS beta too.
I love the day night and weather transitions in PC. It's such an awesome change of atmosphere sometimes....

Thing is, I wish I could pick one of these 3 racing games and have all the good stuff in it. :) I don't have the time to fully enjoy every title for its own good stuff. I want the best (what's possible) of everything put into one game! :D ...one is aloud to have a dream, right?! ;)

And thank you again.

Project GT Corsa will be released in 2018
 
Project GT Corsa will be released in 2018
no. It's delayed to soon! ;)
In my view yes, currently AC is the benchmark for vehicle dynamics and physics on the PS4.

I agree it would be great to have them all in one title, until then I intend to make the most of what we do have, after all its been a long time since we have had this degree of choice on console, and we still have more to come.
That's a good point! I see it the same! Good times (2016) for sim racing fans on consoles and as you said, there is more to come in 2017. 👍
 
First night of really bad online experience 3 of 4 races because fast win thirsty idiots crashing and taking advance of the ghosting. :crazy: Got promoted to C anyways.

Curious if ghosting is also present in C and also if from level C and above you get extra penalties when bumping into other cars. Congratz with your promotion :cheers:
 
Curious if ghosting is also present in C and also if from level C and above you get extra penalties when bumping into other cars. Congratz with your promotion :cheers:
I salute you and am curious knowing it too. Got promoted after race 3 and in race 4 lost a couple of points because of 'them', currently at C with 52 points.
 
Has anyone in here tried to drift at least once while playing the beta w/ wheel? If so does it deduct any SR?:lol:
You can plow into anything during qualifying, I have only received the Slow Down thing, SR stays the same.
As far as online, Unless you actually hit something/someone or go off track you're fine.

I've been doing a lot of sliding getting use to my new wheel. I hated the weak brake on the DFGT, so I bought a T150, now I hate the throttle on it. It gives you no sense of pressure and I'm at 3/4 literally just resting my foot on it. So I've been sliding a lot.
 
You can plow into anything during qualifying, I have only received the Slow Down thing, SR stays the same.
As far as online, Unless you actually hit something/someone or go off track you're fine.

I've been doing a lot of sliding getting use to my new wheel. I hated the weak brake on the DFGT, so I bought a T150, now I hate the throttle on it. It gives you no sense of pressure and I'm at 3/4 literally just resting my foot on it. So I've been sliding a lot.
Isn't the T150 compatible with the T3PA Pro pedal set? That's what I have for my T300RS, and it's great.
 
You can plow into anything during qualifying, I have only received the Slow Down thing, SR stays the same.
As far as online, Unless you actually hit something/someone or go off track you're fine.

I've been doing a lot of sliding getting use to my new wheel. I hated the weak brake on the DFGT, so I bought a T150, now I hate the throttle on it. It gives you no sense of pressure and I'm at 3/4 literally just resting my foot on it. So I've been sliding a lot.
Sweetness can't wait to make memes:cheers:


I love little details like the rumble strips reflecting off the rims.

Cue initial D memes:lol:
 
Why?

I've driven plenty and they all understeer.

In fact pretty much all cars understeer, its rather basic vehicle dynamics.

A car accelerating and turning will shift load to the rear, that will increase load and therefore grip at the rear and reduce load and therefore grip at the front. Result = Understeer.

Now the degree of understeer will vary from car to car, with the two main factors being the initial load over the front (more = less understeer and less = more understeer) and which end is driven (front = more work for the tyres and more oversteer).

Now depending on the car (and quite a few factors) you may be able to resolve this in two main ways. Either reduce the degree of steering applied and/or reduce the throttle, they both have the same end result, more grip to turn at the front and a reduction in understeer.

Now you can also (assuming the car is RWD) apply more throttle and if you have sufficient torque to get the rear tyres to a greater yaw rate than the front tyres you will transition to oversteer. However the Evora in question is not a powerhouse (current hot-hatches have more grunt - hell my Volvo produces more torque) and as such this should not be possible outside of 1st or 2nd and certainly not with TC switched on. Nor is this always the best option when going for out and out lap times, as you have to deal with both under and oversteer, all of which are working the tyres less effectively. Its almost always quicker to reduce understeer and get the tyres back to an optimum workload as quickly as possible. A place which occurs just as the tyres start to exceed the peak slip angle and self aligning torque has reduced.

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So yes understeer is something you should associate with all cars, including Mid Engined ones.

Now the advantage on track of a MR is that is has a lower PMI than other layouts and will be less resistant to changes in direction, this can actually increase the speed and rate at which understeer will develop in the situation above, but it will also increase the speed and rate at which you can reduce it in the situations above. Making it highly adjustable, however it will also increase the speed and rate at which it will oversteer if you do something daft like lift off the throttle rapidly to try and fix understeer.

Its often confused that because the lower PMI makes a car react to direction changes more readily, that means its going to want to oversteer all the time, which is simply not the case. Its still bound by the four bits of rubber in each corner, the yaw rates they have, the load they have and the lat, long and rotational forces being applied to them that creates those yaw rates (and a lot of other factors due to rubber being really, really wierd stuff).

What GTS is allowing the Evora to do in power on oversteer with a moderate throttle application, with no noticeable understeer, in 4th and 5th gear, with TC switched on.

That's wrong.
Well, now that you've explained this, I basically have no reason to argue
 
Isn't the T150 compatible with the T3PA Pro pedal set? That's what I have for my T300RS, and it's great.
I really don't know. I got the T150 Pro, all I know is it doesn't have the generic 2 pedals, it has a clutch also. The clutch is useless until I get a shifter. Which I plan on getting next. I'll have to look into weather the T3PA Pro is compatible, does it use the phone line style plug, also how much is it? I have the 2 pedal set from my T80 which I liked, but I rewired them for my DFGT, which is collecting dust now...

The one thing I do like the pedals faces are chrome. Don't mind the dust :D
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Finally got a gtr in gr4 better than my only other one the Mustang. It feels like cheating with the amount of grip it have comparing it to Stang tho. They definitely need to adjust something. And I'm not even talking about start. Do tyre wear come in play in c and higher class ?
 
Been thinking about the track list. With the recent influx of news, I think all of our predictions are wrong now.

We now have 10/19 locations known. Here is where things get weird/interesting.

We had 3 FIA approved tracks in GT6:

- Suzuka
- Silverstone
- Bathurst

So that is 13/19 (assuming they get carried over)

Pikes Peak is allegedly an exclusive to GTSport (not sure how I feel about this) and Hockenheim was mentioned in an article by Red Bull.

There is the Japanese track that Lucas Ordonez was testing so that is 16/19 known. Here comes the head scratching part.

The Red Bull A1 track (I think this was FIA approved IIRC) will make it 17/19, leaving two spaces that can't be filled by: Mid field raceway, Apricot Hill, Spa, Laguna Seca, Circuit de la Sarthe, the rumored Shanghai track and Goodwood.

All of the above seem like massive ommisions if they don't make the cut (some of these were introduced in GT6 at launch or post launch, so they would be a waste to not include them).

Thoughts?
 
Been thinking about the track list. With the recent influx of news, I think all of our predictions are wrong now.

We now have 10/19 locations known. Here is where things get weird/interesting.

We had 3 FIA approved tracks in GT6:

- Suzuka
- Silverstone
- Bathurst

So that is 13/19 (assuming they get carried over)

Pikes Peak is allegedly an exclusive to GTSport (not sure how I feel about this) and Hockenheim was mentioned in an article by Red Bull.

There is the Japanese track that Lucas Ordonez was testing so that is 16/19 known. Here comes the head scratching part.

The Red Bull A1 track (I think this was FIA approved IIRC) will make it 17/19, leaving two spaces that can't be filled by: Mid field raceway, Apricot Hill, Spa, Laguna Seca, Circuit de la Sarthe, the rumored Shanghai track and Goodwood.

All of the above seem like massive ommisions if they don't make the cut (some of these were introduced in GT6 at launch or post launch, so they would be a waste to not include them).

Thoughts?

Hopeufully the number thrown out by PD was a mere estimate and nothing definitive.
 
Hopeufully the number thrown out by PD was a mere estimate and nothing definitive.

What I'm thinking. You can't brag about having FIA affiliation and don't have tracks like Spa, Circuit de la Sarthe, and others. Honestly I can care less about Red Bull Ring and Hockenheim as I don't race them frequently.

Been thinking about the track list. With the recent influx of news, I think all of our predictions are wrong now.

We now have 10/19 locations known. Here is where things get weird/interesting.

We had 3 FIA approved tracks in GT6:

- Suzuka
- Silverstone
- Bathurst

So that is 13/19 (assuming they get carried over)

Pikes Peak is allegedly an exclusive to GTSport (not sure how I feel about this) and Hockenheim was mentioned in an article by Red Bull.

There is the Japanese track that Lucas Ordonez was testing so that is 16/19 known. Here comes the head scratching part.

The Red Bull A1 track (I think this was FIA approved IIRC) will make it 17/19, leaving two spaces that can't be filled by: Mid field raceway, Apricot Hill, Spa, Laguna Seca, Circuit de la Sarthe, the rumored Shanghai track and Goodwood.

All of the above seem like massive ommisions if they don't make the cut (some of these were introduced in GT6 at launch or post launch, so they would be a waste to not include them).

Thoughts?

Wouldn't it be 18/19? I thought they confirmed Interalgos as well? Or was that just a confirmation that it will be in the game? (Rather by Launch or via DLC, it will be included) Honestly the way it's looking the track list is pretty poor imo..
 
Not sure where to say this but I thought about quoting my post from another member's profile:

"Forgot to say this but couple days ago, i tried GT6 with the Renault Mégane on brands Hatch with all the aids off expect abs and did the same on GTS. I noticed that in GT6, the car is easier to control and less understeer-ish while in GTS was harder to turn and i usually will end up in the sand on the first turn for the first 2 laps or so.

Didn't tired on other cars yet but hopefully I could soon. :)"

I would like to point out that the Renault in GTS is more powerful and lighter due to Bop balancing thing for the sport mode. Also I was driving with Sports hard in GTS while Comfort Soft in GT6.
 
Been thinking about the track list. With the recent influx of news, I think all of our predictions are wrong now.

We now have 10/19 locations known. Here is where things get weird/interesting.

We had 3 FIA approved tracks in GT6:

- Suzuka
- Silverstone
- Bathurst

So that is 13/19 (assuming they get carried over)

Pikes Peak is allegedly an exclusive to GTSport (not sure how I feel about this) and Hockenheim was mentioned in an article by Red Bull.

There is the Japanese track that Lucas Ordonez was testing so that is 16/19 known. Here comes the head scratching part.

The Red Bull A1 track (I think this was FIA approved IIRC) will make it 17/19, leaving two spaces that can't be filled by: Mid field raceway, Apricot Hill, Spa, Laguna Seca, Circuit de la Sarthe, the rumored Shanghai track and Goodwood.

All of the above seem like massive ommisions if they don't make the cut (some of these were introduced in GT6 at launch or post launch, so they would be a waste to not include them).

Thoughts?

All of this got me thinking about the car list.

If PD include all of the VGT's from GT6, and the Gr.3 cars get a respective road car (i.e R8 V10 Plus, FT-1, Z4 M), the car list shoots up to 121 cars.

Manufacturers like Lamborghini and Porsche only have one car unveiled right about now, so I think it's fair to say that the car list should be above 140 at the time of release.
 
Been thinking about the track list. With the recent influx of news, I think all of our predictions are wrong now.

We now have 10/19 locations known. Here is where things get weird/interesting.

We had 3 FIA approved tracks in GT6:

- Suzuka
- Silverstone
- Bathurst

So that is 13/19 (assuming they get carried over)

Pikes Peak is allegedly an exclusive to GTSport (not sure how I feel about this) and Hockenheim was mentioned in an article by Red Bull.

There is the Japanese track that Lucas Ordonez was testing so that is 16/19 known. Here comes the head scratching part.

The Red Bull A1 track (I think this was FIA approved IIRC) will make it 17/19, leaving two spaces that can't be filled by: Mid field raceway, Apricot Hill, Spa, Laguna Seca, Circuit de la Sarthe, the rumored Shanghai track and Goodwood.

All of the above seem like massive ommisions if they don't make the cut (some of these were introduced in GT6 at launch or post launch, so they would be a waste to not include them).

Thoughts?
What if they announce that they going to increase the number of locations and tracks at some point before the release?
 
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