Gran Turismo World Series (2025 Manufacturers Cup | April 2 - April 19)
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Gran Turismo World Series 2025 Official Manufacturers Cup Season Revealed
With only a few days to go until the start of the official 2025 Gran Turismo World Series online qualifiers, Polyphony Digital has revealed the races that will decide who’ll be heading to the live events and finals in the Manufacturers Cup...
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Schedule Table for Manufacturers Cup Online Qualifiers
Settings are the same for GT1, 2 and 3 (for all races) except GT1 has tyre wear on for quali and GT2 and 3 don't
Settings are the same for GT1, 2 and 3 (for all races) except GT1 has tyre wear on for quali and GT2 and 3 don't
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Knew I was gonna miss round 1 of the series. Bummed that it’s the obligatory NBG round…especially being that I didn’t even get to race it this past weekend. Looks like a solid season otherwise. Wish some of the races were longer for GT1. Definitely need to practice Sardegna reverse. I have zero experience with that course.
I’ll be curious to see how light damage plays out in an official season
I’ll be curious to see how light damage plays out in an official season
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Ive been waiting for the race schedule to come out, and there aren't too many surprises in terms of tracks. The only curve ball seems to be Sardegna reverse. This should encourage maximum participation, as most of the community across the 3 leagues, are familiar with the 6 tracks. More rounds could have encouraged more lesser used tracks but PD probably wouldn't risk it anyway.
Today is the first time I've driven the GR3 cars since Update 1.57 and yes, everything is a lot slower. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. GR3 shouldn't feel like you're living on the edge of your pants. This new BOP feels more user friendly and driving on the edge is a less risky affair, because of the reduction in power. I'm about 2 seconds slower around Nurb Endurance, compared to the last race in EX2. But I'm faster in the turns by at least 3 mph. I'm not sure why?
After testing at least 6 different manufacturers, I've decided to stick with Porsche. I can drive it even more on the limit, without feeling like I'm going to be spat out. Fuel won't be a problem in any of the rounds, so I'm picking the manufacturer with decent tyre wear capability. Special shout out to Renault, who could well provide a big surprise this season. I almost signed on the dotted line. But after finishing 88th EMEA with Porsche last season. I'm sticking with what I know.
Today is the first time I've driven the GR3 cars since Update 1.57 and yes, everything is a lot slower. But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. GR3 shouldn't feel like you're living on the edge of your pants. This new BOP feels more user friendly and driving on the edge is a less risky affair, because of the reduction in power. I'm about 2 seconds slower around Nurb Endurance, compared to the last race in EX2. But I'm faster in the turns by at least 3 mph. I'm not sure why?
After testing at least 6 different manufacturers, I've decided to stick with Porsche. I can drive it even more on the limit, without feeling like I'm going to be spat out. Fuel won't be a problem in any of the rounds, so I'm picking the manufacturer with decent tyre wear capability. Special shout out to Renault, who could well provide a big surprise this season. I almost signed on the dotted line. But after finishing 88th EMEA with Porsche last season. I'm sticking with what I know.
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I think this is a polarising thing, because that is essentially what Gr4 is for.
I think the dumbing down as a tad to much and I also think it’s coupled with some tire physics tuning and diff tuning as well.
It’s nice to have more stable cars and arguably more like we’d actually be able to drive them in real life but there was something to be said for the slightly more raw feeling pre update.
Also the corner speeds are higher as the cars are gripping better and weigh more so hold their line better. Im just basically chucking the car in now to see how fast it can take things
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You make some good and valid points. I personally missed racing GR4 in GT1 league, so for me, this is kind of a happy medium. There is something to be said about the lack of control from other players though, who kept missing braking points and taking me out due to the combination of custom slipstream and very fast cars.
I'm hoping this new BOP should provide close but better racing, with less incidents. I think PD have been pushed into this decision, because they couldn't get rid the dirty air aspect, so they had to make the cars slower.
The other thing is that pre update 1.57, I saw quite a few drivers in GT1 league using ASM, to stabilise the cars which were hard to control out of turns. That will only slow them down now, as it becomes more of a hindrance to outright pace, because the cars are much slower now anyway. I'm not sure why PD kept ASM in GT1 league, but got rid of countersteer assist?
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I would agree here but I think they went about it the wrong way. They made the cars easier to drive by reducing their power output, however where I think the reason the cars used to feel like driving on the seat of your pants was because the tires lack friction. IMO, the tires - specifically the RH - needed to have a higher coefficient of friction. Now we get the grip, and the speed/power!
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Maybe there has been a change in the tyre model, because the partnership with Michelin has come to an end? Are we now racing on 'Gran Turismo' compounds? Either way, I'm probably more open to this new BOP than most. The proof is in the racing and if we get a better experience due to the change,then it will be deemed a success. Do you think the skill gap has been increased or decreased due to the new BOP?
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It’s decreased massively, the same as just throwing us all in GR4 the cars are easier so much more repeatable. I’d imagine this is favouring the weaker drivers more than the peeps that could find this exit/throttle management.
All that said is it’s done what’s happened to GR4 it brings the margins closer but pace is always pace and artificially bring everything together is holding back the top peeps and artificially brining us closer (although not in reality)
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Usually there'd be a bullet point in the update details if there were any physics changes. There weren't any in this update. I'm guessing it is just a cosmetic change.
Hey! I resemble that remark! I suppose we'll see how this plays out in the races, but I'm feeling right now like slowing down the Gr.3 BoP is one of the few recent changes that might actually help me. I like to believe I do better in slower, closer racing. My best results recently have been in one-make road car races in Nations and TGR. If this BoP change brings us closer to that, I'm all for it.
BTW, the change to reduce the grip loss on the racing line in wet weather a couple updates ago felt like a gut punch. That was one of my few remaining advantages in rainy races. I didn't have any rain in last week's Nurburgring race, so I'm not sure how much it hurt me. Maybe I'll find out next week.
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I doubt that has any influence. That's just a cosmetic change.
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Yes, I believe it will be just because the cars are so much easier to drive. They required more precise, well, everything before which is what tends to separate the skill levels.
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No idea will it be competitive, I certainly won't be whatever about the car 🤣🤣🤣 I don't see any reason why it would not be on the pace at the longer tracks like the Ring and Spa. I always found it very stable and that is what I really prefer around the Ring at least. Will do some practice with it later. I will only be in GT2 slots at the very lower end of the splits so I'm just looking for good finishes rather than winning
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I see NZ won't have many in Manufacturers. First 2 rounds we have slot 1 starting at midnight, next 4 rounds it shifts to 11pm, which is still ridiculous.
At least it ensures maximum Japanese participation as that's what they want. Screw this garbage, I'm tanking to GT2 next time I feel like participating. At least since I'm still just barely DR A it's not much of a tank job.
At least it ensures maximum Japanese participation as that's what they want. Screw this garbage, I'm tanking to GT2 next time I feel like participating. At least since I'm still just barely DR A it's not much of a tank job.
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Are the timeslots 5, 7, 9PM EST again? Or are they maintaining the 6, 8, 10PM EST? The latter is better for me and the website said one thing but the game had the other during the latest exhibition.
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Annnd I just saw now that it's 8, 10, 12PM EST which is new to me
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It looks like the Jag has some competition. I've been doing some more testing of my short list of Manufacturers -- Chevy, Ford, and Jaguar -- and I had a surprise winner at Nurburgring (two laps, by lowest total time):
After the BoP changes, one thing that I noticed about the Corvette is, because it has to be short-shifted, it tends to be in the gear that I'd usually expect for a Gr.3 car. I tend to downshift into a lot of corners to get better rotation. With the Corvette, being in a higher gear, I get through the corners at a higher speed while still getting the rotation from the downshift. Often in the other cars, I'm in a lower gear going into the corner already, and downshifting slows me down more than I need.
For anybody interested, here are the tread levels after two laps (alphabetically by model):
I've also done some 5-lap tests at Interlagos (by lowest total time):
I thought one of the MR Fords might do well here, but the Jag came out on top again. I'm not going to share the tread levels since there was very little wear for any of the cars.
| Manufacturer | Model | Best time | Avg time | Total time |
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| Chevrolet | Corvette C7 Gr.3 | 8:13.786 | 8:15.346 | 16:30.691 |
| Jaguar | F-type Gr.3 | 8:15.719 | 8:15.749 | 16:31.497 |
| Ford | Ford GT Race Car '18 | 8:16.445 | 8:16.901 | 16:33.801 |
| Ford | Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II | 8:20.832 | 8:20.886 | 16:41.771 |
| Ford | Mustang Gr.3 | 8:21.108 | 8:22.766 | 16:45.531 |
| Ford | Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car | 8:24.961 | 8:25.197 | 16:50.394 |
After the BoP changes, one thing that I noticed about the Corvette is, because it has to be short-shifted, it tends to be in the gear that I'd usually expect for a Gr.3 car. I tend to downshift into a lot of corners to get better rotation. With the Corvette, being in a higher gear, I get through the corners at a higher speed while still getting the rotation from the downshift. Often in the other cars, I'm in a lower gear going into the corner already, and downshifting slows me down more than I need.
For anybody interested, here are the tread levels after two laps (alphabetically by model):
| Manufacturer | Model | Front left | Font right | Rear left | Rear right |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chevrolet | Corvette C7 Gr.3 | 70% | 75% | 85% | 85% |
| Jaguar | F-type Gr.3 | 75% | 80% | 85% | 85% |
| Ford | Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II | 75% | 80% | 75% | 80% |
| Ford | Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car | 75% | 80% | 80% | 80% |
| Ford | Ford GT Race Car '18 | 75% | 80% | 80% | 80% |
| Ford | Mustang Gr.3 | 70% | 75% | 80% | 85% |
I've also done some 5-lap tests at Interlagos (by lowest total time):
| Manufacturer | Model | Opt time | Best time | Avg time | Total time |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jaguar | F-type Gr.3 | 1:34.118 | 1:34.205 | 1:34.796 | 7:53.982 |
| Chevrolet | Corvette C7 Gr.3 | 1:34.602 | 1:34.814 | 1:35.157 | 7:55.784 |
| Ford | Mustang Gr.3 | 1:34.747 | 1:34.812 | 1:35.253 | 7:56.266 |
| Ford | Ford GT Race Car '18 | 1:34.644 | 1:34.708 | 1:35.377 | 7:56.887 |
| Ford | Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II | 1:34.897 | 1:35.151 | 1:35.688 | 7:58.440 |
| Ford | Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car | 1:35.380 | 1:35.867 | 1:36.528 | 8:02.642 |
I thought one of the MR Fords might do well here, but the Jag came out on top again. I'm not going to share the tread levels since there was very little wear for any of the cars.
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I also did my first test at Interlagos, half the laps and double the fuel and tyres as the official race settings, BB0, TC0, medium tyres.
The Jag was fast, around 2 tenths behind the best (Porsche and Merc '20) and on a par with the Alfa. My result in the Ford Spec II Test was about the same too, super slow - around a second off the pace.
On the minus side I found the Jag hard on tyres and tricky to keep on the track, medium tyres were a challenge, don't fancy it on hards or in the rain! But with some TC and BB adjustments I'm sure it's viable.
Might be tempted to go with the Merc as something new to me, need to give it a proper thrash around the ring before signing on the dotted line...
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With it potentially being my last GTWS, (although going back on the narrowing the Weds slots is a step in the right direction) I decided to go with my favourite manu. No surprises given my avatar that it is Jag.
Good luck out on the track everyone.
Also nice seeing a place you have been to in real life as a spot in the game. (Though cars wouldn't be allowed here.)
Good luck out on the track everyone.
Also nice seeing a place you have been to in real life as a spot in the game. (Though cars wouldn't be allowed here.)
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With it potentially being my last GTWS, (although going back on the narrowing the Weds slots is a step in the right direction) I decided to go with my favourite manu. No surprises given my avatar that it is Jag.
Good luck out on the track everyone.
Also nice seeing a place you have been to in real life as a spot in the game. (Though cars wouldn't be allowed here.)
Miiiiight have been there recently
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