Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup 2025 Exhibition Season 2: 12 Mar - 22 Mar)

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I just signed up. Placed in GT1, but I only see Gr.3 races. Is there a full season calendar?
Its only a 3 race exhibition series right now. Your time zone has already gone through the 2nd race, so its just the 3rd race at Grand Valley left. The full season will start in a few weeks.
 
I just signed up. Placed in GT1, but I only see Gr.3 races. Is there a full season calendar?
The GT1-GT3 are just ranks:

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All the tiers have the same races.
 
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Wednesday's race at Grand Valley Highway is looking more interesting - some tyre strategy and not entirely a Supra fest. I set my best early time in the McLaren. Still very inconsistent in the middle sector, just can't seem to find the right line.
 
I just signed up. Placed in GT1, but I only see Gr.3 races. Is there a full season calendar?
 
The GT1-GT3 are just ranks:

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All the tiers have the same races.
Geez, nice encouragement, PD: “worse”. Could use the word “lower”.
I recall the tiers, but I’ll have to read it again. Thought I saw different race settings. As in, GT1 had tyre wear and GT3 had no tyre wear. Something like that.

Edit: Well, @Famine is right on cue. ;)

@RacingGrandpa The Gr 4 race was Nations. All the 3 Manu races are gr 3 this time.
That’d be right. I purchase PS+ and sign up on the wrong day.
 
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Wednesday's race at Grand Valley Highway is looking more interesting - some tyre strategy and not entirely a Supra fest. I set my best early time in the McLaren. Still very inconsistent in the middle sector, just can't seem to find the right line.
The McLaren was my favorite car there during the Daily C a few weeks back. Might not have been the fastest (was Ford GT) but it was super stable.

That was pre 1.31 BoP though so may be different now.
 
The McLaren was my favorite car there during the Daily C a few weeks back. Might not have been the fastest (was Ford GT) but it was super stable.

That was pre 1.31 BoP though so may be different now.
It's still very stable, just now even slower but I think I can make it work
 
It's still very stable, just now even slower but I think I can make it work
I just did like five laps in the Supra (46.3), McLaren (46.8), NSX (46.9), and Lambo (46.8). I liked the McLaren the most just due to its stability. Was a smidge quicker in the Lambo (but I bet it gets super sketchy on worn tires). The Supra, of course, was the fastest. The leaderboard is riddled with them. Yay.
 
We'll, using this Nations race practice to test my Manu pick has pretty much shot down my idea of toughing it out with Hyundai. I was able to do a 1:48.2 at Grand Valley with it. Then I tried the Genesis X and immediately went one second faster with a 1:47.2 after only two laps.

I figured at my level (high A) it's more the driver than the car, but that difference is shocking. I can't imagine kneecapping myself that bad with an unpopular Manufacturer like Hyundai. No wonder no one ever uses them.
 
Jumped into the final GT1 Nation's slot last night on a whim, only 10 minutes worth of practice. I qualified OK in P7 but found the race to be very rough. Lots of pushing and shoving, and I find the penalties brutal here, some were my fault but other times I was pushed off track. I can't see where I'm getting them either due to the limited VR HUD. As an extra insult I got booted by someone while entering pit lane giving me an additional penalty. After all was said and done I finished P10, not my finest outing.
 
We'll, using this Nations race practice to test my Manu pick has pretty much shot down my idea of toughing it out with Hyundai. I was able to do a 1:48.2 at Grand Valley with it. Then I tried the Genesis X and immediately went one second faster with a 1:47.2 after only two laps.

I figured at my level (high A) it's more the driver than the car, but that difference is shocking. I can't imagine kneecapping myself that bad with an unpopular Manufacturer like Hyundai. No wonder no one ever uses them.
I found the Hyundai round Grand Valley was a good pick for me too. Was my fastest time in the TT for the daily races so on the back of that 1 race I picked Hyundai for season 3. Then just as I went enter my slot the track changed to Nurburgring. At Spa it did ok but I needed good corner exits for the straights to try and hold position. The rain helped though with the speed deficit. The Gr4 car isn’t too bad but obviously not in the Season 4. But yeah I think if your picking Hyundai your handicapping yourself.

As for Season 4, at Daytona the Hyundai will get mugged on the straights. Had no top end speed at all. Nurburgring Endurance, it will do ok round the corners, but the long straights again you will just mugged. Interlagos it might do ok.
 
The GT1-GT3 are just ranks:

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All the tiers have the same races.
Was wondering: if an A level driver resets himself to C level, enters the GT3 series and then gets back to A levell by doing a number of successfull dailies; then he would be allowed to drive in GT3 while in A level? And would he be in a lobby as an A driver with the rest C, D and E level?

Was thinking that could be the flaw in dividing into 3 series....
 
Was wondering: if an A level driver resets himself to C level, enters the GT3 series and then gets back to A levell by doing a number of successfull dailies; then he would be allowed to drive in GT3 while in A level? And would he be in a lobby as an A driver with the rest C, D and E level?

Was thinking that could be the flaw in dividing into 3 series....
Yes he’d be in GT3 competing against C/D folk but there’s no sense in doing that. The points up for grab are next to nothing there.
 
Geez, nice encouragement, PD: “worse”. Could use the word “lower”.
I recall the tiers, but I’ll have to read it again. Thought I saw different race settings. As in, GT1 had tyre wear and GT3 had no tyre wear. Something like that.

Edit: Well, @Famine is right on cue. ;)


That’d be right. I purchase PS+ and sign up on the wrong day.
We in GT3 get tire wear, fuel loss and, all the rest of the fun and exciting surprises 😮
Things that make 12 lap race on hard tires with a x2 wear rate make you wonder why we have to do a self infected stop and go penalty 🤔

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^City of over 1M people and first time I have not been 1st. I want to meet 1st right now. I know a good Café.
 
Was wondering: if an A level driver resets himself to C level, enters the GT3 series and then gets back to A levell by doing a number of successfull dailies; then he would be allowed to drive in GT3 while in A level? And would he be in a lobby as an A driver with the rest C, D and E level?

Was thinking that could be the flaw in dividing into 3 series....
Yes he’d be in GT3 competing against C/D folk but there’s no sense in doing that. The points up for grab are next to nothing there.
In GTWS you are locked into your league the moment you enter your first race. There, at least, you cannot drop ranks and drop leagues (or gain and gain).

I haven't seen anything suggesting TGRGT will be any different.
 
For 90% of the A+ players the points means nothing in GT1 either.
Can imagine it is more fun for many A level drivers to be on top in for example GT2 then to be at the bottom of GT1.
I am high C after 29 races done) and in a recent Manu race another driver his qualifying time was about the same as an average A or even A+ driver, but he could have been a player that started the game recently and is simply very good and just on it's way to A level, rising through the ranks.
But also had a driver recently in GT3 that scored more then a 100 points from the first round and now was in a race with max. 36 points, which i found odd....
And i do see players that got for example about 200 wins in 300 races and are C level.

Maybe it would have been better to seperate DR/SR for dailies and the World series so that they do not influence each other!?
 
Tried doing a race sim @ Grand Valley in the Supra (which is what I already picking for Manu cup). For me strat is pretty much straightforward. My front left RS is cooked at the end of the 8th lap so it will pretty much just be deciding whether to start on RM or RS depending on qualifying. Fuel is not a concern.

What I did find interesting was almost no difference in tire wear with either leaving the brake balance at 0 or pushing it almost entirely to the rear with a -4. I had assumed putting the bias to the back would save the front tires some, but it looked barely noticeable by the end of the stint.
 
What I did find interesting was almost no difference in tire wear with either leaving the brake balance at 0 or pushing it almost entirely to the rear with a -4. I had assumed putting the bias to the back would save the front tires some, but it looked barely noticeable by the end of the stint.
Brake Bias. Not sure if this a typo error, but. You say you move the brake bias to -4? If so that moves the brake bias to the front wheels which could be why your front tyres still faded. To move it rear wards you want to be + numbers. So might be worth trying +4 on a test.

FR/FF cars - having + brake bias will remove some of that weight transfer on the front wheels, which should help with tyre wear, and reduce some understeer. The weight of the engine and the car weight been pushed on to the front wheels stops the front tyres from gripping.
MR cars - you want to introduce some - front brake bias. This time you want to increase the weight transfer on the front and remove it from the rear. Moving it forward will help to stop the rear from swapping when you hit the brakes and also helps reduce the corner entry oversteer.
 
Brake Bias. Not sure if this a typo error, but. You say you move the brake bias to -4? If so that moves the brake bias to the front wheels which could be why your front tyres still faded. To move it rear wards you want to be + numbers. So might be worth trying +4 on a test.

FR/FF cars - having + brake bias will remove some of that weight transfer on the front wheels, which should help with tyre wear, and reduce some understeer. The weight of the engine and the car weight been pushed on to the front wheels stops the front tyres from gripping.
MR cars - you want to introduce some - front brake bias. This time you want to increase the weight transfer on the front and remove it from the rear. Moving it forward will help to stop the rear from swapping when you hit the brakes and also helps reduce the corner entry oversteer.

Sorry....I mistakenly typed "-" when I meant "+". I had it set to +4 (it says front and rear on the red dial) and it didn't show much difference in front tire wear from zero. I would have to imagine that going from -5 to +5 would show a bit of a difference, but from zero to +4, not so much.
 
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Sorry....I mistakenly typed "-" when I meant "+". I had it set to +4 (it says front and rear on the red dial) and it didn't show much difference in front tire wear from zero. I would have to imagine that going from -5 to +5 would show a bit of a difference, but from zero to +4, not so much.
Yeah thought it was a mistake 👍🏻
I've not really adjusted the BB to test with tyre wear. Only thing I know so far in the new update is tyres are really sensitive to temperatures. I wonder if the temps were slightly different in your test runs?
I might do some test runs with BB using last week's Daily C settings. I have some good base results already I compare.
 
Had not driven a GR 3 since the update. Normally i test and do a bit of research when I pick a manufacturer but this time I choose in the blind and picked BMW. And started testing the M6 at Interlagos. Think it is a good choise but really had to get used to the new physics!

So I did a full 26 lap race simulation twice for the race coming Saturday and the M6 will have no issues with fuel or tyres, even for a driver like me, on a controller and not really good at fuel and/or tyre saving. Had about 0.5 laps of fuel left at the finish in both races. No idea if the M6 is good or bad regarding fuel economy. This is what the tyres looked like at the end:

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The 26 laps flew by, it was so relaxing, especially compared to the preparation for the last race i did at the RedBull Ring. 26 pretty even laps, no incidents and no track limit penalties. It felt so nice to drive this car at this track.

Most laps were low or midd 1.35's, and no idea if that is any good. Best time in free practice is about 1.34.5 and I'm pretty close to my friends at higher levels, but feel they can likely shave seconds of their fastest time the coming days and I propably a few 10ths at most.

So no clue if I can be competive the coming race, but not passing the oppertunity to do a 26 lap race. Really like those longer races! Have designed a simple livery for the coming race, always wanted to make my take on a classis one like this:

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Can not do the coming Nations race, so good luck to all entering that one. And hope others can also share their experiences regarding preparing for the race on Saturday...
 
Yeah thought it was a mistake 👍🏻
I've not really adjusted the BB to test with tyre wear. Only thing I know so far in the new update is tyres are really sensitive to temperatures. I wonder if the temps were slightly different in your test runs?
I might do some test runs with BB using last week's Daily C settings. I have some good base results already I compare.

That would be interesting to know for sure. But you need like a tablet and one of those companion dash sim apps connected to actually see that right? That to me seems kind of lame considering ACC shows that data right on screen for you.



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Had not driven a GR 3 since the update. Normally i test and do a bit of research when I pick a manufacturer but this time I choose in the blind and picked BMW. And started testing the M6 at Interlagos. Think it is a good choise but really had to get used to the new physics!

So I did a full 26 lap race simulation twice for the race coming Saturday and the M6 will have no issues with fuel or tyres, even for a driver like me, on a controller and not really good at fuel and/or tyre saving. Had about 0.5 laps of fuel left at the finish in both races. No idea if the M6 is good or bad regarding fuel economy. This is what the tyres looked like at the end:

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Did a test myself - had a panic as the tyres were shredded by half distance. Only realised when I checked the replay that I’d started on softs. D’oh.

For the actual race it should be a pretty straighforward (and maybe boring) sprint. No strategy at all. I still had 2 laps left of fuel at the finish, that’s just shifting normally around 75-80% on the rev bar.
 
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How's everyone going in Nations practice? I tried a few different cars last night and I'm not completely sold on any yet. For me, the 911 felt best, but I've done a LOT of laps in it.... The supra felt really good but not as stable as the 911...I really liked the AMG GT3 also. The Genesis X was quick, but hard to avoid the snap oversteer (maybe I just have heavy feet...). I'd be sweating bullets the entire race hoping not to bin it....

Will try the M6 and the Ferrari today when I get a chance.
 
How's everyone going in Nations practice? I tried a few different cars last night and I'm not completely sold on any yet. For me, the 911 felt best, but I've done a LOT of laps in it.... The supra felt really good but not as stable as the 911...I really liked the AMG GT3 also. The Genesis X was quick, but hard to avoid the snap oversteer (maybe I just have heavy feet...). I'd be sweating bullets the entire race hoping not to bin it....

Will try the M6 and the Ferrari today when I get a chance.
I've just tried the supra and 911 and I will likely stick with the 911. I had good results with the 911 when it was a daily race (pre-update, however). I was much better through the twisty bits in the 911. Like you, it might just be that I am most comfortable in the 911 but that holds weight for me.
 
I've just tried the supra and 911 and I will likely stick with the 911. I had good results with the 911 when it was a daily race (pre-update, however). I was much better through the twisty bits in the 911. Like you, it might just be that I am most comfortable in the 911 but that holds weight for me.
Give the McLaren a go... I matched my 911 laptime on my first lap, and it feels really stable....
 
Can imagine it is more fun for many A level drivers to be on top in for example GT2 then to be at the bottom of GT1.
I am high C after 29 races done) and in a recent Manu race another driver his qualifying time was about the same as an average A or even A+ driver, but he could have been a player that started the game recently and is simply very good and just on it's way to A level, rising through the ranks.
But also had a driver recently in GT3 that scored more then a 100 points from the first round and now was in a race with max. 36 points, which i found odd....
And i do see players that got for example about 200 wins in 300 races and are C level.

Maybe it would have been better to seperate DR/SR for dailies and the World series so that they do not influence each other!?

Maybe for some, but racing in GT1 means tougher competition, so you learn to respect even those 5-8th place finishes, because even those require a lot of work. Whereas if you are top of GT2 and much faster than anyone else, what's the fun, if you are that much quicker? 🤔 Plus that means you could compete at a decent level in GT1 anyway, if you are much better than top of GT2. And the benefit of GT1 is that you can score more points due to the DR rating of the lobby increasing a lot.

Ofc fun to win sometimes, but it is not worth it imo to tank your ratings from time to time, to ensure you stay in GT2.

I sometimes agree that dailies should maybe be separate from GTWS, could give me more incentive to do the dailies. No matter what I do, I always seem to start 11-12th at best in those more crowded Daily B & Cs. Gives me little incentive to do them for that reason, and I don't want to lower my DR either, because I can still keep up with the competition in GTWS with same DR at Nations Cup. Manu competition seems too tough atm for me, very popular it seems.

In Nations Cup races I qualify inside TOP8 a lot more often. Plus it is different type of racing to especially Race B, which is always a few laps and quali dictates so much. In GTWS you can make up a lot of positions in the race. Plus with only a few laps in quali, it is a different skill to get a good lap in a few tries, compared to dailies where you can try so often and maybe once or twice manage to get an "alien lap", which massively improves your starting grid position.
 

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