Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup Exhibition Season: Feb 5 - Feb 15)

[Nebuc72]

Looks like we'll be getting announcements for this today
Though judging by the reactions of the Esports drivers on Twitter they're not happy with whatever format that PD have come up with

The vibe I'm getting is that the event has been cut down a ton, and I don't think its a coincidence a change like that would follow off the heels of the big Sony layoffs.
I'm pretty sure it's public knowledge Sony lose an insane amount of money doing GTWS so it really wouldn't surprise me to hear they're forcing PDs hand and trying to put a cap on those losses.

We will see though, this could age like milk.

 

[MCL1974]

I own three Subarus. I'm picking Subaru. Simple. 🙂

But I own three Ferrari's, one McLaren, one AMG, two Lamborghini's and a Kia Proceed. So for me it is still very difficult to pick one....

 

[tankuroded]

Veterans are voicing displeasure ahead of the schedule release:

 

[Talon16]

I own a Toyota. I'm picking Toyota. Simples.

I own three Subarus. I'm picking Subaru. Simple. 🙂

I own a Ford so... gimme that super overpowered BOP mistake from the last update

If GT1 is still only Group 3, I'm considering running the RCZ. I drives well for me, and it's less common in the Americas region. But if it's 3 and 4, I'll stick to my trusty AMG or maybe try out Porsche.

Looks like we'll be getting announcements for this today
Though judging by the reactions of the Esports drivers on Twitter they're not happy with whatever format that PD have come up with

Well, if this is the vibe then I'll not be picking Lamborghini.

 

[D_Dragline]

If it’s an ownership thing I’d be down to 3; Subaru, Peugeot, Mitsubishi. But I could also make historical claims for Ford and Mazda.

Instead, I’m leaning towards Alfa or Jaguar.

 

[Talon16]

Veterans are voicing displeasure ahead of the schedule release:

So I am gathering they're no longer going to do in-person events for the top qualifiers? That is my guess and if that's the case, that sucks. I really liked watching those and participating in guessing who'd win for in-game credits.

 

[tankuroded]

Veterans are voicing displeasure ahead of the schedule release:

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Continued (none yet from the Japanese players, though I've saw one Japanese language tweet):

 

[OJBrit]

It just shows how much these guys were in the loop and dare I say it made favourites of by PD that they would be privy to this before us plebs. In an ideal world everyone would find out the same. I wonder what changes would have caused such a reaction.

And if they're going to stand aside, maybe my time has come. (Yeah right! )

 

[tmtk]

Well, judging by the current vibe in the thread, maybe I should go with Ford. My Van does have the same motor as the 2018 Gr.3 Race car after all 😂

No need really.
It's the same letter, no one will notice...

 

[Nakano219]

I realise this is selfish of me to think, but as a GT2 pleb I hope the cause of the uproar is something to do with either the amount of live events or the qualification rules to said live events rather than the quality of the online race schedules.

 

[tankuroded]

For those worried they might stop doing live events in response to recent doomposting:

 

[RobertHammer]

They will probably reduce the number of live events and maybe do only 2 big ones - in summer and winter?

 

[watto79]

They will probably reduce the number of live events and maybe do only 2 big ones - in summer and winter?

That's exactly what they did last year. The Showdown in August in Amsterdam and then the finals in Barcelona in I can't remember which month.

I'm guessing the number of people who get to go has been scaled back and caused the uproar.

 

[tankuroded]

They will probably reduce the number of live events and maybe do only 2 big ones - in summer and winter?

But that's already the case right now. In 2022 they still did the online points, tape-delay races (which were problematic from network side) and 2023 saw that cut altogether.

 

[RobertHammer]

Yea thats true , so then maybe only 1 for the finals? who knows

 

[Famine]

That's exactly what they did last year. The Showdown in August in Amsterdam and then the finals in Barcelona in I can't remember which month.

Back end of November/start of December.

It's also what happened in 2022, with the Red Bull Hangar-7 Showdown and the Monaco Final.

I have heard some interesting things but as yet I don't really know what the Big Mad is about.

 

[Talon16]

I'd assume all those guys (and gals) have to sign an NDA or something. Guessing the dam will break here shortly and the rest of us will find out what the hub-bub is all about. Regardless, doesn't sound good.

 

[mastretta_mx]

At this point can be anything, most pf the world tourers are always complaining for any change lol

 

[RobertHammer]

At this point can be anything, most pf the world tourers are always complaining for any change lol

maybe now they will have to pay for everything that would explain their uproar

 

[Nebuc72]

From what I've gathered the public announcement is in 90-120 mins so just hold on til then orrr what I've seen is a load of baloney

 

[Famine]

I'd assume all those guys (and gals) have to sign an NDA or something.

There's a GTWS drivers' group on "a well-known, game-oriented, often-integrated chat application" which includes many drivers who've attended GTWS as competitors and some GTWS staff. Pretty much anything on there is under privilege, although as we see above, some players who haven't attended events as competitors and are in esports teams with other drivers who have are made privy to the information.


I have more of an idea now, but similarly under privilege (after all, who wants to talk to someone who's technically a journalist if you aren't covering your arse ). I'm largely not surprised by what I've heard, though I guess there's more specifics I'll learn when everyone else does!

 

[mastretta_mx]

I found a tweet from a non GTWS driver from France telling that they are reducing the number of spots to qualify to the live events, probably one driver per country now??🤔🤔🤔

Adding screenshot

 

[Famine]

a non GTWS driver

Kevin Belic is definitely a GTWS driver. He raced in Manufacturers at the (online) world final for BMW in 2021.

Edit: Ah yeah, that'd do it.

 

[Nakano219]

Six online rounds for each cup.
Four live events - Montreal, Prague, Tokyo, ??? for finals
Nations is back to one driver per country, manufacturers is still team based but is only a team race at the finals (each driver per team goes to one of the non-finals events).

Aside from the format changes, Montreal as a host is interesting given certain track content rumours...

 

[Fezzik]

6 round season is pretty pathetic

 

[RobertHammer]

Montreal ey? hmm 🤔

 

[mastretta_mx]

Kevin Belic is definitely a GTWS driver. He raced in Manufacturers at the (online) world final for BMW in 2021.

Edit: Ah yeah, that'd do it.

Got it, I was not aware of that😅

 

[MCL1974]

6 round season is pretty pathetic

much to short. With work and a holiday coming I will likely only be able to do a few races. Wish we had a really long season again like a few years ago....

 

[mastretta_mx]

So I can see now why the usual GTWSdrivers are not happy, basically only 12 players will attend live events and the world finals, so no more semi-finals rounds

 

[Fezzik]

much to short. With work and a holiday coming I will likely only be able to do a few races. Wish we had a really long season again like a few years ago....

Especially too short as it looks like it’s the only proper season this year for most of us plebs. Likely just the usual 3 round exhibitions between the live events. Seriously wondering what’s the point in taking part.