GT 7 Servers are still down...

hermtownhomy
Well, there ya go. You defend their methodology, then agree that in this particular case it isn't acceptable. In my experience, this is how it usually goes. They always have a theory. They always have a plan. But it never goes that way. They always have an excuse, they always say they didn't foresee this or that, and I always say, I told you not to replace that simple device with a PLC or a computer, and they do it anyway. It'll be great they say. Touch screen this, and automated that, and information out the ying yang. Then it don't work right. Then it takes some time to get the bugs worked out. Then it takes some more time to get more bugs worked out because some interface changed somewhere. Before ya know it, it's been 3 years of effing with it, then the touch screen stops working. Then they say it's obsolete, there aren't any parts to replace it. Then I say I told ya so. The device that it replaced lasted for 25 years, and now we're screwed, have to start from scratch with a new design. This is why I hate software engineers.
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lol, but literally everything you're using right now is possible because of software engineers. Not sure why you're making a blanket statement on a whole profession, because a bad experience you had at work.

The game itself worked fine at launch as far I know, with no game breaking bugs...so, they got that part right at least. It's not like they knew the update they were rolling out was going to break the game.

What I don't understand is why they didn't just rollback to the previous version, and let us play while they figure out the issue in the background.
 
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You get days when I think I should cave and buy this broken game and then this happens and I give a sigh of relief that I held off.
Honestly the game looks like it is solely designed to get people to keep paying to play, low payouts and high costs, I just wonder if the problem now is them trying to add a pay as you play fee where you need some sort of subscription to even play the offline stuff.
 
Jijikkk
Good morning from Bulgaria! Now is 7.45 am and still servers not work. What aSHAME, SONY?????
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Same here from Malta. No communication is what is surprising to me. The last official post from them was 16 hours ago. Considering the game has been out for about 2 weeks only they’re not off to a great start.
 
Ok, so picture this. I've been waiting since release to get my hands on a copy (I specifically wanted a physical copy) due to being away. During that time I watched a lot of reviews and gameplay content because I was quite hyped, specially after all the praise it got.

Finally today I get my copy, get home from work after two hours of downloading and updating it's finally ready to install. Go through the setting up process, did the Musical Rally while it installed.

"You can now play Gran Turismo 7" the screen read. Sat through the opening movie as one would with a GT game.

Server maintenance pop up 💀💀

Having played GT Sport and seen the always online mention in reviews I already knew what it meant. You can't do anything besides Arcade Mode. Played a few races to see the updated circuits and my favourite car up close (Alfa 155) and closed the game.

I already knew I couldn't pretty much do anything. But imagine someone's first impression jumping into GT7, perhaps their first GT game, having no idea about what can and can't be done online and their first sight is a completely locked map with little to know explanation on what's going on.

Want go through the different menus? You can't.
Want to start your career? You can't.
Want to at least, see what cars are available (as one would in a car game)? You **** can't.

Honestly what were they thinking. I know I'll like the game once I get the full experience and all, even if the racing feels a bit too similar to GT Sport (like GT6 did to GT5). But for most first impressions count.
 
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WJHMH
So how many cartons of cigarettes has Kaz gone though over this?
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This is Kaz right now:

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+ They nerfed grinding of credits an a 50%......that is.... very bad news
NO REALY MONEY spend for that they think from me!!!
 
Norrin Radd
where you need some sort of subscription to even play the offline stuff.
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Honestly I’d be fine with that for like a fiver a month or something. If it meant all the single player elements were removed from online. No credits, no car collecting, not spending 150k on tyres! Just having any car from the group to choose from with all options available and also receive consistent updates of cars and tracks.
 
1 Hour later it will be 24h. Still servers are down :(( And the other problem is I can't even play my GT7 offline mode. GT logo is turning on black screen that's all and not starting.
 
Terronium-12
So I take it that once the servers are back up and running, you'll disconnect from said servers and keep playing arcade mode?
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I remember arcade came on a separate disc in GT 2 it was the non smelly one from memory.
It was also the place for split screen.
Nowadays it's perfect for when severs are not online.
I'll admit I prefer custom races.
 
MrTintin
Arcade is awesome.
I've been working my way up the car list, On tracks I get to choose.
I'm in it for the driving peeps not the dopamine rewards.
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Yeah, I'm also happy I can only play a tiny portion of an already cutdown version of a game I paid 60 quid for.

Hooray for online only games.
 
its now almost 24 hours since they rolled out the update, something must have gone horribly wrong, ive never had a game taken offline for so long only because of an update/server issue!
 
Noz
its now almost 24 hours since they rolled out the update, something must have gone horribly wrong, ive never had a game taken offline for so long only because of an update/server issue!
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In a normal IT world, at this point we would have rolled back to the prior version by now. If that didn't work, there is some major issues to be worked out. This process might not be their core competency and messed things up (or even worse, they are contracting out the work) I could imagine they are engaging professional services if they are hosting on a cloud service to get it up from internal service experts.

Watch, there is some DB migration failure and the backup (if they had one) is failing to restore.
 
Blade89
In a normal IT world, at this point we would have rolled back to the prior version by now. If that didn't work, there is some major issues to be worked out. This process might not be their core competency and messed things up (or even worse, they are contracting out the work) I could imagine they are engaging professional services if they are hosting on a cloud service to get it up from internal service experts.

Watch, there is some DB migration failure and the backup (if they had one) is failing to restore.
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Yes, without knowing the ins and outs it depends on nature of the failure. Where I work some changes can't be rolled back (once committed to the change) and you can only 'fail forwards'. Usually if 'live data' has been amended in a DB and rolling back would cause the changed data to corrupt/not be compatible with a previous version or out of sync.

With the money at stake, plus reputational damage, I have little doubt this being ran as a'priority 1' incident at pd. Zoom bridges active, with pd mgmt, techs and vendor techs/mgmt working through this discussing all the possibilities/work streams on how to resolve this ASAP.
 
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PletdeKoe
Well could it be they simply ran into a big problem, causing them to be unable to restore servers? I mean yeah it is annoying but wow, the outrage over not being able to play a game for 24 hours…, maybe more, is very, very harsh.
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Yeah they'll have all kinds of workstreams, techs looking at this to pinpoint root cause and look at solutions to get this back ASAP. Depending what the issue is, no doubt vendors too. So potentially oracle, Microsoft, redhat etc, depending on the tech they use.
 
Maybe they were just hacked again, or they tried to sanction Russia or Russian players and unfortunately the whole thing led to a cascade.

Who knows exactly. I'm at work and can live with it "if necessary" if it still doesn't work today, but my patience and my understanding of this game are coming to an end, even for me. Basically, I'm someone who sees the positives in a game for much longer than most others and admits to the developer that there can be errors, especially at the beginning, and this can lead to restrictions, but as I said, at some point even I'll reach an end of what I've achieved I want/can accept.

I don't think the changes that you can grind fewer credits at the same time are sooo nice, but they leave me relatively cold, maybe because I play the game a little differently than others. I don't need that many credits.
I mainly want to play the sports part, which actually only takes me 2 cars a week. With tuning and all the trimmings, as long as it stays with GR3 and GR4 cars, I need around 1-1.25 million if I assume that I have to use a different car for every race every week.
I can live with that, because most "unicorns" interest me only marginally and I would only buy them if I hopelessly have too many credits left anyway.
I tend to live by the motto "Having is better than needing", so I only spend credits when I have at least the same amount left afterwards, i.e. to spend 1 million, I first want to have 2 million ectr.

To the server down.
I'm afraid there won't be any compensation and I also dislike the fact that you can hardly do anything offline.
If at least all routes could be used normally and all my vehicles were available in the respective races, this would be a step in the right direction, plus maybe the editor for paint and stickers, as well as the photo mode, then you could spend your time with it "sensibly". beautify the fleet. You should simply disable all "Rewards" and "Achievements" offline, as well as the Used Car and Historical Car Dealers and you're done. Then you can spend money, but not get any in offline mode, so the risk of someone cheating with an exploit would be much lower.
 
xMAXIx79
Maybe they were just hacked again, or they tried to sanction Russia or Russian players and unfortunately the whole thing led to a cascade.

Who knows exactly. I'm at work and can live with it "if necessary" if it still doesn't work today, but my patience and my understanding of this game are coming to an end, even for me. Basically, I'm someone who sees the positives in a game for much longer than most others and admits to the developer that there can be errors, especially at the beginning, and this can lead to restrictions, but as I said, at some point even I'll reach an end of what I've achieved I want/can accept.

I don't think the changes that you can grind fewer credits at the same time are sooo nice, but they leave me relatively cold, maybe because I play the game a little differently than others. I don't need that many credits.
I mainly want to play the sports part, which actually only takes me 2 cars a week. With tuning and all the trimmings, as long as it stays with GR3 and GR4 cars, I need around 1-1.25 million if I assume that I have to use a different car for every race every week.
I can live with that, because most "unicorns" interest me only marginally and I would only buy them if I hopelessly have too many credits left anyway.
I tend to live by the motto "Having is better than needing", so I only spend credits when I have at least the same amount left afterwards, i.e. to spend 1 million, I first want to have 2 million ectr.

To the server down.
I'm afraid there won't be any compensation and I also dislike the fact that you can hardly do anything offline.
If at least all routes could be used normally and all my vehicles were available in the respective races, this would be a step in the right direction, plus maybe the editor for paint and stickers, as well as the photo mode, then you could spend your time with it "sensibly". beautify the fleet. You should simply disable all "Rewards" and "Achievements" offline, as well as the Used Car and Historical Car Dealers and you're done. Then you can spend money, but not get any in offline mode, so the risk of someone cheating with an exploit would be much lower.
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The reason PD doesn't enable us to use career offline and then update our cloud-save as we go back online is related to the end of GT5.

People used to 'hybrid' their cars by saving their save-file on a usb drive, then altering this save-file on a PC with a hex editor at first, a fully coded tool somewhat later, that let you swap any part you can imagine. You could throw a Redbull X2010 engine into a fiat panda, change the floor/suspension config to x2010 and you'd have a sleeper fiat panda with the engine and grip of that X2010 car.

Not long after the 'hybriding' was being explored some dude actually went further and found out how to unlock every single achievement by editing the save-file of GT5 - you could unlock every single trophy in the game. I was furious when I found out about this, took me 8 months to get platinum on GT5 from day 1 it was released. This was patched quite fast but there are a ton of people who abused this to get trophies and extremely rediculous cars - imagine the Mercedes tank car with a redbul x2010 engine to give 1 example.

It sucks, we should be able to do everything but Sportmode and online lobbies when there's a maintenance going on.
 
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