GT game must make us aware of climate change and also driving safely.

[Touring Mars]

I agree with the OP in that I "hope" that future GT games might address broader issues (such as fuel economy, safety etc.), but I disagree with the thread title which states that they "must" be.

Gran Turismo need not concern itself with issues such as fuel economy and safety, but at the same time, it doesn't mean that these things should be completely ignored. I personally like the idea that Gran Turismo is about more than just racing pretty cars around a track, and might address other issues relating to the automotive industry, such as fuel economy. Regardless of one's views on environmental issues, it is something that is likely to become of much greater importance to the automotive industry, and GT is well placed to reflect that.

 

[Boffin]

Not you but some shallow minded individuals here who are not sport but i dont want to fight peace! about safety how about having an obstacle course or a mode where how to properly turn your car or signals, or how to properly overtake or how to do defensive maneuvers and if you past does test you will have additional licence. I think you know what i mean , in the licence section include safety maneuvers

OK, we already have avoiding obstacles.

Apart from the road safety side you've already told us about, are there any reasons why you think the turn signal, overtake (which I think has already been done also) manouvres would prove helpful in training someone to be better at GT?

I'm just trying to get a scope for you side of the arguement.

 

[MasterFocus]

That would be cool to race the 24h of LeMan in an electric car, going 220+mph, making pit stop every 3-4 laps only to wait 10-15min per pit stop, time to fully charge those ecological batteries (wich do more harm to the planet when disposed than a gasoline engine).
So, while doing pit stop, we could finally have a social life with others, take a nap, and finish that 24h endurance race in one stretch, with no need to ever pause the game, or putting Bob behind the wheel.

But seriously, what's a RACING game with cars that dont make any sound?? its fun for ½ a lap, but then, bring me a gaz guzzler!!!

 

[MasterFocus]

Oh! and also, any car that run with gasoline in GT serie's game isnt making any polution since YOU ARE NOT DRIVING IT FOR REAL. I know on the box cover its said REAL DRIVING, but the next word should remind you its a virtual game: SIMULATOR

 

[GREGC92]

I hope GT game will make us aware of climate change and also driving safe. I agree with having more electric cars and I hope there are biogas, hydrogen cars in the future in GT and also some message for all gamers to support environmentaly friendly cars.

And also endorsing proper driving techniques and safety. Seeing some safety tips or message or a track course on how to drive safely. Or safe racing maneuvers should be given as tip and training mode. GT or any games are great mediums to spread ideas to everyone and to influence a lot of people. I hope GT will be like that

you should drive a bycicle then. and don't forget to wear helmet. oh and seatbelt!

 

[kayman]

The climate has been changing constantly. Long before humans came on the scene. Can't believe the arrogance of people who believe that humans are the sole reason the climate is changing.

Sure we need to investigate alternate sources of power, and ways to power everyday transportation (and everything else that uses power).

But really, we don't need this forced down our throats in a GAME.

 

[webbo]

This is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. I don't want to be green, I don't care about climate change and I don't think it should be anywhere near a GT game.

EDIT: And I also completely agree with you Kayman

 

[yogaflame]

But I think PD has forseen this already that is why even Kaz mentioned he got curious with green cars and he actually love the performance of this cars. At least Gt5 is future proof than forza 3

 

[tenticle]

GT is a racing simulator. There already are electric racing events in real life. Even electric drag racing. There are even econamy races in real life. Schumacher won one in a ferrari sponsored car, doing more than 400 mpg. There are forms of rallying where the idea is to drive to a set speed, and you loose points for going too quickly.

Why can't this be included in GT? The higher the profile of events like these, the more money will be invested in them, and the more tech will filter down into production cars. There's no reason why an electric car couldn't compete at Le Mans. You could swap empty battery packs out and put in full ones, and charge them between pit-stops. This tech already exists.

And while it is true that the climate is changing constantly, and not all of climate change is human-caused, it is very simple to show that different mixtures of gas hold different amounts of heat. Adding more CO2 to a volume of gas allows it to hold more heat. Records of climate from sea bed cores and ice cores show that the earth has relativly short inter-glacial periods (ie, where there is ice at the poles, but not everywhere, or nowhere) between looooong periods of complete ice cover and roasting heat. Climate change probably wont kill the earth, but it might make it uninhabitable for humans.

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

I agree with the OP in that I "hope" that future GT games might address broader issues (such as fuel economy, safety etc.), but I disagree with the thread title which states that they "must" be.

Gran Turismo need not concern itself with issues such as fuel economy and safety, but at the same time, it doesn't mean that these things should be completely ignored. I personally like the idea that Gran Turismo is about more than just racing pretty cars around a track, and might address other issues relating to the automotive industry, such as fuel economy. Regardless of one's views on environmental issues, it is something that is likely to become of much greater importance to the automotive industry, and GT is well placed to reflect that.

Same here. ^^

I think GT does a great job in regards what the threadstarter wants it to do, so I don't get the point really...

 

[Nattefrost]

I don't understand why people are so offensive towards the OP in this thread. He doesn't say anything shocking really. I want GT to have as many types of cars and events as possible. I don't know a lot about electric racing cars, but if there are nice ones, by all means include them and give them some proper events.

Also, the idea of safety driving tests is quite nice. GT4 and GT4 proper (I think) already have tests where you have to drive conservatively with your gasoline or try to make a good standing start without burning rubber etc. Safety tests will slot in nicely. They could be fun as well. And why not a few events that put those lessons to practice?

I don't think he's saying we should have less gasoline cars and aggressive driving, just put electric cars and safety driving on top of that.

 

[andrethaiss]

 

[regnar]

I don't understand why people are so offensive towards the OP in this thread. He doesn't say anything shocking really. I want GT to have as many types of cars and events as possible. I don't know a lot about electric racing cars, but if there are nice ones, by all means include them and give them some proper events.

Also, the idea of safety driving tests is quite nice. GT4 and GT4 proper (I think) already have tests where you have to drive conservatively with your gasoline or try to make a good standing start without burning rubber etc. Safety tests will slot in nicely. They could be fun as well. And why not a few events that put those lessons to practice?

I don't think he's saying we should have less gasoline cars and aggressive driving, just put electric cars and safety driving on top of that.

It probably would have been better to have been posted in the general forum,
rather than in GT5, issues like abortion, belief in god & this have stanch believers
on both sides and wont get settled here. And technically every car in the game is electric.

 

[sumbrownkid]

Well it would be cool if GT5 had a competition like Michelin's Green X Challenge along with a normal championship and get extra cash if you win it. Maybe that''ll help convince people to compete instead of just slapping on a stage 4 turbo and go at it.

 

[Worst_Driver]

ROFL. What the hell, why we should be worrying about climate change in a GAME. GT The real tree hugger simulator. Give me a 1970 Chevelle that gets 7 MPG and I will be a happy man because I don't have to worry about the consequenceS
Keep those things for the real life, it's like the insurance idea from not long ago.

 

[Nomino]

Haha, aaahahahaha!! LMFO!

Weird post of the month award right here!

Honestly, you are here, on a forum, posting about a PS3 game, going on about car safety and the environment... All the damage done to the environment to allow you to be at a computer, on the internet, and you are concerned about such things in a GAME?!!!

 

[finnracer]

LOL its Gran turismo not GREEN T:censored:ER

 

[craste]

Can you imagine Jeremy Clarkson reading this post.

He'd be like - "Go Away!!"

 

[ploopsy]

Pretty soon gt will be the only way to experience petrol cars. Its not like virtual cars can harm the earth.

 

[Tenacious D]

I know. Politicians are constantly taking our rights away these days, mostly liberals, so they can be adored on CNN.

 

[chepe371]

ROFL. What the hell, why we should be worrying about climate change in a GAME. GT The real tree hugger simulator. Give me a 1970 Chevelle that gets 7 MPG and I will be a happy man.

Keep those things for the real life, it's like the insurance idea from not long ago.

That's the great thing about GT and what makes it a green "alternative" to driving.

So we can push our Chevelles and GT500's and AC's and not have to feel guilty about shing all over the enviro, or having our pockets gouged at every service station.

Being a video game about driving some of the most fuel-hungry cars, makes it green.

 

[Touring Mars]

Honestly, you are here, on a forum, posting about a PS3 game, going on about car safety and the environment... All the damage done to the environment to allow you to be at a computer, on the internet, and you are concerned about such things in a GAME?!!!

But these issues are things that the car manufacturers take very seriously and will increasingly be a part of their future planning and marketing etc. And incorporating concepts relevant to the automotive industry is something that Polyphony Digital has already done, in the case of the fuel economy tests with the Toyota Prius, for example.

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Gran Turismo has always been innovative and not just about who can drive the quickest... there has always been an emphasis on good driving rather than simply fast driving - the licence tests and the penalty system in GT5 demand that drivers race cleanly and within the bounds of the track, for example. GT games also include background info about cars and manufacturers, and now GT5 has debuted the "Museum" concept. These are just a couple of extra features that set the GT series apart from other games, and show us that PD are interested in putting more context into their driving games. In principle, there is no reason why PD would not be interested in incorporating more "green" technology into their games, or safety issues etc. But just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean that the OP is nuts it just means you don't have as much imagination as the guys who actually make the game, or are too blinkered in your view as to what can and cannot be included in a game in the driving genre.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I know. Politicians are constantly taking our rights away these days, mostly liberals, so they can be adored on CNN.

Last time I checked Bush and CO. made the Patriot Act, which trampled on our Bill of Rights.

But that's for another discussion.

 

[reaperman]

if any of my video games become climate change propaganda, not only will I go over to whatever competition that game has so fast it will snap heads off, but I will also never again buy a new game, of any kind, from whoever published it.
GT5 is already on my 'buy it used because of jerking me around' list, but I certainly don't want to add future gt's and every other game sony publishes.

I'm not going to get into the 'fad science' angle of it, but I will mention that I drive a hateful little piece of eco-**** in real life.
I'm certainly not touching a video game that even includes it as a drivable car.
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list of things that would force me to ban all future gt's:
faddish eco propaganda
safe driving classes
insurance requirements
parts breaking all the time (sega gt had it, was really annoying)
stop signs or other traffic signals
weapons or speed boosts on track
buying a gt game with less than 10 new cars in it

 

[amar212]

list of things that would force me to ban all future gt's:

You forgot:

- in-game polls
- working reverse lights
- skid marks

If I ever see any of the 3 above in any future GT game I'll stop playing it.

 

[Ardius]

What i mean is no one cares about climate change and the importance of advertising the need to save energy, alternative source of energy and stop using gas to much

And what we mean is that this is a game where it doesn't matter.

Sure, get the message across in gameform, but not to the point of altering gameplay, then you're missing the point and losing the effect you were trying to achieve.

As suggested (and already attempted by PD with the Prius races), create some additional game mode centred around fuel effecient driving. This could actually be useful for endurance racing at the same time.
However, there is a limit where you are just going to take the fun out of the game, after all, people are buying Gran Turismo for fun, not for a lecture. Once you start doing that, you're losing the amount of people you are trying to get your message across to and you've basically shot yourself in the foot.

As said though, a rather random worry, honestly, your breath is best used on your relatives and friends. Just simple advice like walking more, turning off the engine when at rest for long periods, etc. This is stuff that helps, not lecturing others.
At this point in time, I think most people are "aware" but they just don't understand or don't want to make the difference themselves, some little features in a video game are not going to do an awful lot to change this, but promoting more green methods of driving in real life just by talking to people will have a lot of effect, a hell of lot more than through media, especially after the issue has been essentially lectured to the public 100 times already.

 

[Lain]

Yeah... the more you drive in GT, the hotter it should get. Towards the end of the career mode, the entire track should be on fire! That'd be so cool.

 

[z28black98]

When I drive in the traffic, I put my seatbelt on, I stop for red lights and I don't drive 2 feet behind other vehicles to get slipstream. I also don't rev up to the red marking when I change gear. I drive with quiet good economy.

When it comes to GT I usually do the opposite of the above. That's what I like about it.

you dont wear your seatbelt when you play GT?? TISK TISK I'm telling

 

[Seismica]

I don't know if it has been been mentioned already, but GT1 had a notice about safe driving when you entered the game (Always wear your seatbelts and drive safely etc.). What they could do is show roll cages and seat hearnesses in the opening movie. Thats enough to promote safety for me.

As for climate change, they are in the process of putting electric cars and hybrid cars in, and i'm sure there will be some sort of hybrid car event in GT5.

 

[MasterFocus]

You forgot:

- in-game polls
- working reverse lights
- skid marks

If I ever see any of the 3 above in any future GT game I'll stop playing it.

speaking of safe driving, what about airbags deployement in case of an accident, since we will have damage:idea: