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Its a video game man- but I'd like to see fuel-efficient cars in the game so that I'll use them for the endurance races- it'd be nice.
GT game must make us aware of climate change and also driving safely.
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screw you I want v8s and danger gran turismo shouldnt care about the environment stop bieng a hippy.
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Uhuh... Let's just analyse what I wrote for a minute... Got that? Good.
Did I state that such cars should not be included in the game? No. So, all your waffle around not having imagination/being blinkered about what can and cannot be included is without foundation.
If PD include "eco-friendly" cars, it's simply because they are available and the way things are going. Fine. However, teaching about climate change?! If you want to help save the climate, don't buy a console that needs a TV, plus power to run it. Driving safely? Riiiiight, makes for a great fun mode eh?
It's a game. Not a simulator, not reality. If you want to learn how to drive safely, take a driving test.
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Lol people come on... 5 pages? Amar is right. All this waiting must be driving you guys crazy.
GT already has everything about safety you could expect from it. Drivers with safety gear on at all times and a message when you start the game. Anything else just doesn't fit.
And eco-talk in the game? Come on... I'm all for some funny races, like EV or hybrid-only races, and races with high mileage per gallon cars only. Or like the prius one Touring Mars posted here. That would be nice, but anything else, again, just doesn't fit.
It's a racing game people. Not some lame-ass educational game.
GT already has everything about safety you could expect from it. Drivers with safety gear on at all times and a message when you start the game. Anything else just doesn't fit.
And eco-talk in the game? Come on... I'm all for some funny races, like EV or hybrid-only races, and races with high mileage per gallon cars only. Or like the prius one Touring Mars posted here. That would be nice, but anything else, again, just doesn't fit.
It's a racing game people. Not some lame-ass educational game.
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oh trust me it's tempting.
I doubt I'll ever be tricked into buying the psp game, but gt5's already on my ****list. Doesn't mean I won't own it if it's decent, just means pd's not going to get one cent of my money for anything related to gt5. 5 years of PD development totally wasted as far as my wallet's concerned.
hell I bought gt5p used because I didn't want to encourage demo selling.
I've been doing the same thing to sega everything sega's sold me since ~2001. whenever they manage to make a game I actually want, I just buy it used so they don't get my money. And now they're nearly out of business. There's no need for me to deny myself whatever occasionally good games are released just because the developer/publisher pissed me off and I've banned them. That just punishes me, and it's totally unnecessary.
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^ You have a weird reasoning. I too refuse to give many developers my money, but they are developers that don't deserve it for reasons like trying to deceive me, or selling me an overpriced ****** game.
However, developers busting their ass off for 5 years to deliver me an epic game, make me want to pay triple.
However, developers busting their ass off for 5 years to deliver me an epic game, make me want to pay triple.
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Question about that Shelby you posted, how long does that charge last when going all out, will it make it around the Ring? The problem with electric is the time required to charge it, even though 10 min is quick when considering other electric vehicles, that is one long ass pit stop.
These cars are made for economy driving for the most part, when driven hard they won't last as long as gasoline powered cars.
Like others have said when these cars become mainstream, and I believe they will probably be hydrogen and not electric, then we will see them in the games. But this is a game for racing, and when many of the electric cars can't be driven as such, well what is the point in having them there.
These cars are made for economy driving for the most part, when driven hard they won't last as long as gasoline powered cars.
Like others have said when these cars become mainstream, and I believe they will probably be hydrogen and not electric, then we will see them in the games. But this is a game for racing, and when many of the electric cars can't be driven as such, well what is the point in having them there.
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I hope the next tekken game gives us the opportunity to get Heihachi and his son to sit down at a table and talk things out, you know, to resolve their differences and feelings without resorting to sensless violence.
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I'm all for green performance cars being included in the game, but I don't think making a statement should be the reason behind it. GT is a reflection of the current car industry, so when the auto industry moves towards green cars, so will GT. When they move back to fossil fuel, so will GT. And that's what GT aims to do (and they way it should be).
So if you want more green cars in GT, lobby the auto industry directly.
So if you want more green cars in GT, lobby the auto industry directly.
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I'm still researching about it, i actually got curious about this car since they hype it as the fastest electric car ever. But I think it could be like other electric cars, 30 minutes perhaps but that is for a lot of miles already.
Anyway love it or hate it next gen of sports cars are green cars.
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Actually you are right there should be airbags in side the car to add more realism to the cars in GT
Since GT is about future of racing also, they should put more energy efficient and green cars. They still perform like monster. But of course we are going to miss those monster sounds but still they still sound cool like a jet
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You've told us several times about the first bit - but actually, no. GT isn't explicitly renowned for future of racing. They have concepts because they are cool, not nessecarily because they are trying to promote anything. Exceptions come with buiness deals.
And' I'm sorry, but green cars at the moment don't handle like 'monsters' like petrol ones. The SSC is an exception (except I'm still interested to see mileage per charge) but take the Tesla. That thing is too heavy because of all the batteries, and it takes several hours to charge when I couldn't last a day's driving on the TG track.
If realism is going to be followed, what do you do about electric cars needing a top up?
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GT is a racegame. Climate change and driving safely should not be part of it. Or there would be speed limits like Torque said, because driving at 200+ or 300+ km/h is not driving safely. Just drive clean. 👍
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"sound" is simply wasted energy.
This will make "proper" supercars sound like they should...inefficient and SLOW.
The Ring is only 22km long if I remember correctly, which is obviously not a great distance for an electric vehicle.
If by "last as long" you mean "car engine or part failure" there is less chance for part failure on these electric vehicles.
-no air intake or exhaust needed
-very simple motor
-no oil or lubricants needed for motor
-no heavy duty radiator (cooling a brushless motor is very easy)
-transmission is optional*
-no differentials if it's a "whispering wheel" setup (ie. motor for each wheel)
*these cars have a horizontal torque curve, meaning that you have all of it even at a standing stop. You can gear it down because you are going to have too much power for your tires to handle and because of this with one gear hitting 6000+ RPM you can hit 120mph. Tesla did this with the Roadster because adding the transmission would have added useless weight to the vehicle and also had some other issues with it. Newer cars now have a system where you can have multiple gears without a transmission. One design is gunning to beat the current land speed record which if I remember correctly uses a rocket instead of a gas motor.
Anyways, the point is that you have less parts and less chances of failure.
Cars don't have to be "mainstream" to be in GT. The Model-T isn't mainstream...yet we saw it. We are seeing a good number of concept cars and we have seen some in the past.
And actually, most electric cars we are seeing now are made for racing. This is because their costs can hit the $100K+ mark (most of that cost is batteries) and not seem expensive to those shopping for fast sports cars.
Another reasons is because of the simple fact that for the most part electric cars are faster than gas cars.
The only problem now are the batteries, and that is what is restricting them from being used in races at this point. Though you have a lot less weight with none of the parts I mentioned earlier, batteries are a lot of weight and make them just as heavy as other cars. When you add a transmission to that you have even more weight. Because of this it becomes a balancing act of top-speed vs. distance. With better batteries you can have EVERYTHING.
It's only a matter of time before this problem is solved. But in every other manner electric motors are far superior to gas motors, and the design of electric cars are far superior to gas cars (again, less components mean less weight). The only issue that needs to be solved is the battery issue (charge capacity and number of batteries needed as it adds to weight).
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How about coal? Using coal to generate electricity for an electric motor still has less impact on the environment than using gas.
Electric motors are highly effecient and with a direct drive setup (one motor per wheel) you don't lose all the percentages you get with gas motors. Ie. a 550hp gas engine faces a 10% loss through the transmission...that means less than 500hp hitting your wheels at peak performance.
Also, check this article that looks at current car usage and the amount of power needed to make it happen. Even if it were supplied by all coal powerplants it would still mean less CO2 pollution than gas cars.
http://dvice.com/archives/2009/07/shift-sorry-cri.php
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Not reading my post? Then deciding to reply to it?
Yeah, great idea.
Obviously using solar and wind power would be the best, but I was replying to an argument that electric energy is just as bad as using gas energy because of the most common source right now (coal, in the US). I pointed out that even when using coal you would will still end up with less environmental impact than gas.
A solar panel at every house/business could drastically reduce the amount of coal we use to generate electricity.
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My guess is that biofuel is the most likely answer to the green issue.
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I'd like to know who on the planet is NOT aware of climate change by now? We should totally organise a rock concert to make them aware. Bono could come. Oh and we could serve organic teas.
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But it was really dull. I don't blame him.
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