GT Sport Livery Editor Thread

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It certainly appears as if constructive criticism with an explanation of why its not an ideal use of the sponsors has escalated into “dont do it or dont paint at all” discussion. Which it certainly shouldnt be. Noone can tell you you MUST do anything.

However, I still think that for minimal effort you could find sponsors which A) dont clash and in fact B) are colour coordinated to work with your design. Thereby gaining a twofold benefit for a little bit of leg(finger)work. But its an opinion, unless youre doing an exact replica there is no reason you cant do whatever you want to YOUR car.

I mean jeez, its a game. Im happy to see someone try and get to grips with the editor at all and certainly dont want to see them completely discouraged from learning it and getting feedback on their work. I see no reason to say this medium isnt for them, when clearly there can be multiple types of livery including honking great big transforming robots and men in dark suits with gadgets, not to mention small blue people and a donut loving imbecile.

Well truth be told, I never even thought about brands that way to begin with. It never occurred to me that brands could clash, even though it is quite obvious. But up until now I've only just looked at shapes and colours. When I do a replica I always try to get the exact same brands, as a way of challenging myself, but mostly I get about 70% right and the rest is left to my imagination and improvisation. As with the livery in question.

I might put some more thought into this in the future, but so far most of my liveries have just been personal challenges where I try to learn the boundaries of both myself and the livery system. When I'm up to the challenge I might start with 100% authentic cars. I have plans on getting into the decal editor on PC so that might help with the right brands. But we'll see, it's one step at a time atm.
 
Hi again! Sorry for took this so long because I'm being busy. Anyway here is the showcase as usual :

I remember someone asking if there is any older R18 livery. Here is the 2014 version on newly added R18 :



GT300 Oakley McLaren 650S GT3 :



Cocoichi (some kind of curry depot/restaurant brand in Japan) R8 LMS :



Classic #56 787B livery :



Painstaking Gundam livery (I saw the creator upload the progress couple weeks ago... Must be hard working on this one...) :



More later! :cheers:
 
Well truth be told, I never even thought about brands that way to begin with. It never occurred to me that brands could clash, even though it is quite obvious. But up until now I've only just looked at shapes and colours. When I do a replica I always try to get the exact same brands, as a way of challenging myself, but mostly I get about 70% right and the rest is left to my imagination and improvisation. As with the livery in question.

I might put some more thought into this in the future, but so far most of my liveries have just been personal challenges where I try to learn the boundaries of both myself and the livery system. When I'm up to the challenge I might start with 100% authentic cars. I have plans on getting into the decal editor on PC so that might help with the right brands. But we'll see, it's one step at a time atm.

There are also TONS of decals getting uploaded constantly, so if there is one that takes your eye, theres now a pretty good chance of it being avilabale already. So even without uploading them yourself, you may still be able to find what you want. Ive been really surprised with some of the more obscure (so I thought!) decals Ive been able to simply download ingame.

Everyone would do well to remember this......all of us started somewhere and learnt the things we are now throwing at others. We didnt all begin with crazy knowledge and mad editor skillz! It was a process we went through and that we should be trying to help others with. Not discourage them from. Including me! Sanctimonious holier than thou rant over.
 
Here is one of the liveries I made.
When I made it, I wasn't think about the decals too much, I did remove Mac Tools from the car and replaced it with another decal.


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That's a rather elitist way of putting it. I don't really agree that virtual cars should be bound to real world politics. If anything they should transcend that in order to make way for more creative freedom. I saw a car in GTS a couple of days ago that had like a thousand Michelin stickers on it. Some of them were clearly visible and others were used to create interesting shapes and designs along the car body. It was not the most pleasant car to look at but I gave it a thumbs up for creativity and a bit of humour.

To be honest I had no idea that people were so intent on criticising non-authentic liveries with certain mixes of brands. I almost feel like it's a bit rude and arrogant to do so. Why question another persons artistic vision? The game does not state any kind of rules and some people really like to take advantage of that in every way possible. Me included.
Please understand that I was sharing my opinionn and made an effort to express that with my words of choice.

However, this argument of yours is completely undone because the livery you posted in question was an attempt at recreating another livery (even if it was only conceptual). You chose to try to color within the lines, and I figured I'd give you feedback because you actually did an otherwise good job but let go on the minute details. Instead of trying to recreate the colors and shapes, you could've put any stickers there and it still would have worked. Those stickers on the car in the conceptual image are there because someone paid them to be there. You can (and did) choose other stickers and logos to replace them. But the end result came across as thoughtless and by your own admission, that is correct.

Thus, in comparison to those that share remarkable recreations on here, it came off as half-assed to me.

My critique, while perhaps curt, wasnt meant to discourage you though. It was meant to encourage you to go to greater lengths at finishing your work down to the little details. A racing livery should be more than just colors and shapes, especially when you're recreating one.

If you want to stand on your soap box and champion abstract and surrealist liveries then I say "More power to you" and welcome you to present them here so I can see them. Unshackle yourself from recreations and really let the juices flow. You could even draw inspiration from the short film "Logorama".

But dont try to excuse the fact that you couldnt be bothered to recreate the livery in full as "artistic freedom" because that just doesnt work on so many levels.
 
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I won a Huracan Group 3 today. Any livery ideas? Don't know many famous Lamborghini race cars.
 
Okay, here is more showcase as promised :

Target Viper GT3- R :



155 V6 Ti DTM livery on 4C Gr. 3 :



Group of Ridge Racer livery :



Do Spidey need a car? Guess so...



I have an idea though. Does anyone here willing to make Iron Man livery for Chapparral 2X? Because it will looked great and both will blend well together imo.
 
Big brother and little brother Jags....
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Just downloaded this now. It's gorgeous.

That's a rather elitist way of putting it. I don't really agree that virtual cars should be bound to real world politics. If anything they should transcend that in order to make way for more creative freedom. I saw a car in GTS a couple of days ago that had like a thousand Michelin stickers on it. Some of them were clearly visible and others were used to create interesting shapes and designs along the car body. It was not the most pleasant car to look at but I gave it a thumbs up for creativity and a bit of humour.

To be honest I had no idea that people were so intent on criticising non-authentic liveries with certain mixes of brands. I almost feel like it's a bit rude and arrogant to do so. Why question another persons artistic vision? The game does not state any kind of rules and some people really like to take advantage of that in every way possible. Me included.

There is nothing wrong with placing multiple logos of the SAME sponsor on the car. When you feature only Michelin, it's cool. However, once you start chucking in Bridgestone, Hankook, Yokohama, MRF whatever; don't you think that it starts to look silly? The politics which are mentioned are that real world teams have to pick a side. It's the same reason why football players can't just wear whatever brand boots they like if they signed a contract with a particular brand. You don't sign contracts with multiple tyre manufacturers, because teams only use one brand of tyre anyway.
 
WEC #97 Aston Martin
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Good liveries like these make stand out the work they did @PD with their models, but the livery is perfect: not one mistake or low quality sticker! amazing

I created a modern take on the Martini Classic!
I liked it, so I hope you will too!
i really dig this clean take on the martini livery, perhaps would you try out BBS or Enkei rims? I recon not many cars use centerlocks Rays these days (iirc they're mostly used by japanese cars and in asian racing series):cheers:
 
Please understand that I was sharing my opinionn and made an effort to express that with my words of choice.

However, this argument of yours is completely undone because the livery you posted in question was an attempt at recreating another livery (even if it was only conceptual). You chose to try to color within the lines, and I figured I'd give you feedback because you actually did an otherwise good job but let go on the minute details. Instead of trying to recreate the colors and shapes, you could've put any stickers there and it still would have worked. Those stickers on the car in the conceptual image are there because someone paid them to be there. You can (and did) choose other stickers and logos to replace them. But the end result came across as thoughtless and by your own admission, that is correct.

Thus, in comparison to those that share remarkable recreations on here, it came off as half-assed to me.

My critique, while perhaps curt, wasnt meant to discourage you though. It was meant to encourage you to go to greater lengths at finishing your work down to the little details. A racing livery should be more than just colors and shapes, especially when you're recreating one.

If you want to stand on your soap box and champion abstract and surrealist liveries then I say "More power to you" and welcome you to present them here so I can see them. Unshackle yourself from recreations and really let the juices flow. You could even draw inspiration from the short film "Logorama".

But dont try to excuse the fact that you couldnt be bothered to recreate the livery in full as "artistic freedom" because that just doesnt work on so many levels.

I was merely showing my integrity, as you clearly tried to discourage me from doing liveries all together. I explained my lack of knowledge about the mix of brands in another post so you are welcome to read that. I made my choices based on my understanding at that time. I'm not sure if I would approach it any differently if I had known these things before hand, but that's how I approached it initially.

The only thing that bothers me is that people take offence to the point where they try to exclude others from something they feel that they understand better. It sounds like they own it and therefor they are entitled to set the rules for how it should or should not be. I was totally fine with the initial critique, but when the attitudes switched to that arrogant stance I just couldn't bare it.

Just downloaded this now. It's gorgeous.



There is nothing wrong with placing multiple logos of the SAME sponsor on the car. When you feature only Michelin, it's cool. However, once you start chucking in Bridgestone, Hankook, Yokohama, MRF whatever; don't you think that it starts to look silly? The politics which are mentioned are that real world teams have to pick a side. It's the same reason why football players can't just wear whatever brand boots they like if they signed a contract with a particular brand. You don't sign contracts with multiple tyre manufacturers, because teams only use one brand of tyre anyway.

It did not occur to me that it would look silly because I didn't think that it would matter in a virtual reality (no companies or sponsors will question it there). I also didn't know what many of the brands were so there was also that. Not sure if it would've affected the end result If I had known these things before hand, but that's how it went down anyways. When people started to notice and questioning it here, it was the first time I've ever heard that it could be a strange thing to mix rival brands.

Is there any great exception where you could mix a lot of rival brands? Let's say that you absolutely love Pirelli, Michelin and Hankook and you want to show your love by having them all represented on your car. How can you make that obvious to the people that want 100% authenticity? Or will they just ignore the car per default?
 
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It did not occur to me that it would look silly because I didn't think that it would matter in a virtual reality (no companies or sponsors will question it there).

So why don't PD use the same approach when creating their pseudo-realistic liveries? There's a reason why they don't.

Is there any great exception where you could mix a lot of rival brands? Let's say that you absolutely love Pirelli, Michelin and Hankook and you want to show your love by having them all represented on your car. How can you make that obvious to the people that want 100% authenticity? Or will they just ignore the car per default?

If I liked more than one brand of the same thing, I'd make two separate, similar liveries. Some teams in real life have minor colour/sponsor variations for teammates. Like @Snaeper said, these criticisms are to encourage, not discourage.
 
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If I liked more than one brand of the same thing, I'd make two separate, similar liveries. Some teams in real life have minor colour/sponsor variations for teammates. Like @Snaeper said, these criticisms are to encourage, not discourage.

I've seen this while googling for inspiration some will have one tire sponsor on some will have another entirely whether it be a different driver or simply a change of tire suppliers in real life.
 
I wish we got Milage Points for making liveries, I have more fun in the Livery Editor than I do on the track most of the time!!

Anwyay, some works in progress;

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My favourite colour combo is teal and pink. Since the demo I've been thinking of how to properly incorporate these colours into a realistic looking livery. And above is the best attempt I've managed. Went with MTV and Sega logos to help give the colours more credibility as a 90s style scheme. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out!

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Team colours based on my family name, with moto's and logos. Been working on trying to feature all the colours of the family tartan, red, blue, green and white, along with the crest colours of red and yellow...


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This is something I've been working on for someone else. I'm kinda happy with it, but at the moment am unsure with how to proceed.

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The only really finished livery here, this is the car I'll be running in my first league appearance in GT Sport. Just something clean and classic, with a slight 70s vibe. No sponsors so just the AMG logo and my nationality
 
Let's say that you absolutely love Pirelli, Michelin and Hankook and you want to show your love by having them all represented on your car. How can you make that obvious to the people that want 100% authenticity? Or will they just ignore the car per default?

Speaking for myself here (obviously), yes. I do ignore not only liveries that mix rival brands, but also liveries where the stickers/decals are placed in unrealistic parts of the car (like the tire and rim brands on top of the car or hood instead of next to the wheels), liveries with bad hierarchy of brands (where there's not a main brand and all the logos have the same size) and bad color combinations.


I don't think the creative freedom is expressed on how you place your brands and which ones you choose but in what's behind them all, the livery design itself. "Playing" with brand logos without restrictions is not only unrealistic but it also makes the livery look worse in the end. Graphic design and Branding are specific disciplines for a reason. :)

As a graphic designer myself I have to say that I wouldn't use 99.9% of the liveries I see. Most of them are OK but lose me on the details I mentioned above.

This is not because I think I'm better than everyone else. It's just due to the knowledge I have regarding graphic design that most people don't. And that's OK. A lot of people do amazing stuff even without being designers and the best way to make a good livery IMO is to follow realistic rules and maybe copy real world liveries to figure out the basics.

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You can actually run into situations where the cars do have two competing manufactures on the cars as sponsors, take the N24 for example, Falken is a race sponsor so every car has that logo even if they are using Michelin, Dunlop’s or Yokohama’s and promote them as well.

Blancpain is another example where Total/Elf are the series sponsors so those logos have to appear on the car....

Anyway, nothing is right or wrong, do what you feel is best! :cool:
 
You can actually run into situations where the cars do have two competing manufactures on the cars as sponsors, take the N24 for example, Falken is a race sponsor so every car has that logo even if they are using Michelin, Dunlop’s or Yokohama’s and promote them as well.

Blancpain is another example where Total/Elf are the series sponsors so those logos have to appear on the car....

Anyway, nothing is right or wrong, do what you feel is best! :cool:

That ususally (if not always) only happens when one of the sponsors is a sponsor of the series, not of the car manufacturer or the racing driver. And those brands almost never "compete" in the hierarchy of the livery itself. When that happens, is not because of "creative freedom" but because the series pretty much demands all the participants to run those brands on their cars.

A famous exception is the BAR Honda Luckies / 555.

If you would say "there's nothing right or wrong" creating a livery in the real world you would be out of business pretty quickly. But in GTS yes, everything's permitted. That has its upsides and downsides though.
 
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