GT Sport - Trailers, Videos and Screenshots

[wakas]

Exactly. I don't want bling bling effects in Gran Turismo. I want realism

I never said that it should end up looking like some animated movie, think more in terms of GT4 vs GT5 or GT2 vs GT3. Visuals are a huge part of the immersive experience that GT offers, why do you think they model cars in an insane amount of detail, that's a colossal waste of man hours if you do not think that its very important to the brand.

 

[Samus]

So, this is what we've been waiting for huh? I'm certainly going to need a lot more details before I think about buying a PS4 and this game. It's very strange for them to launch the game with such a strong focus on the online competition and FIA "prize giving". That is irrelevant to 95% of the gaming population, we already know there is no chance we're going to be stood next to Lewis Hamilton recieving a prize because we're not one of the top drivers. So what for us? Very little so far.

They say there is still an offline game so yeah, I'm going to need to know about that because competing in FIA championships doesn't really appeal.

While many licencing is made for a single franchise, in that case, many companies allowed the use of their cars in GT only, however, they could easily be brought to from GT to DC, depending on the first contract deal in the first place.

Driveclub cars seem to not have been made "Franchise licence" which is clearly shown in the GT Sport trailer, as it includes a lot of the Driveclub cars, you can expect 90% if not 100% of the Driveclub cars in GT Sport.

Wait and see.

I see you're still trying to pretend you're an "insider" here and Zlork still loves literally everything PD says and does. Not much changes round here.

Cars are licensed for individual games and there is no evidence to suggest any cars have been licensed per franchise and certainly no proof they're licensed for multiple franchises. Other than the fact they are the same cars, what evidence do you have that those "Driveclub cars" are in fact the Driveclub models, rather than ones created by PD of the same car?

 

[Elitekilla29]

So, this is what we've been waiting for huh? I'm certainly going to need a lot more details before I think about buying a PS4 and this game. It's very strange for them to launch the game with such a strong focus on the online competition and FIA "prize giving". That is irrelevant to 95% of the gaming population, we already know there is no chance we're going to be stood next to Lewis Hamilton recieving a prize because we're not one of the top drivers. So what for us? Very little so far.

They say there is still an offline game so yeah, I'm going to need to know about that because competing in FIA championships doesn't really appeal.



I see you're still trying to pretend you're an "insider" here and Zlork still loves literally everything PD says and does. Not much changes round here.

Cars are licensed for individual games and there is no evidence to suggest any cars have been licensed per franchise and certainly no proof they're licensed for multiple franchises. Other than the fact they are the same cars, what evidence do you have that those "Driveclub cars" are in fact the Driveclub models, rather than ones created by PD of the same car?

That's what im saying. Just focus on giving us a excellent GT game. They got everyone so damn confused right now.

 

[Downhill Dino]

I wonder if there will be a livery editor.

 

[Johnnypenso]

So, this is what we've been waiting for huh? I'm certainly going to need a lot more details before I think about buying a PS4 and this game. It's very strange for them to launch the game with such a strong focus on the online competition and FIA "prize giving". That is irrelevant to 95% of the gaming population, we already know there is no chance we're going to be stood next to Lewis Hamilton recieving a prize because we're not one of the top drivers. So what for us? Very little so far.

They say there is still an offline game so yeah, I'm going to need to know about that because competing in FIA championships doesn't really appeal.

The focus on FIA has me worried to be honest. GTAcademy didn't really do much for me because, like you say, I'm not one of those 1% of the 1% guys that legitimately had a shot at winning, so for me it was just another Time Trial. I certainly hope PD doesn't place all their hopes for GTS on this competition for the single FIA award and forget about the rest of the game and the vast majority of players who will never be good enough to compete for the top prize.

 

[Samus]

I'm also not convinced by all the marketing talk versus lack of actual gameplay/evidence. The back of my GT6 box claims that it will "change the racing genre forever". We all know how that turned out. I don't see the racing genre now dominated by catch up, rubber band "races".

I wonder if there will be a livery editor.

Given the talk about representing your manufacturer or country I'm expecting generic "Team County" and base manufacturer liveries. At least for the online parts anyway, I can't see the FIA wanting their series full of custom made liveries containing anything and everything.

 

[Nico_Ble99]

I wonder if there will be a livery editor.

I guess we'll hear more in some interviews or at PSX this year.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Given the talk about representing your manufacturer or country I'm expecting generic "Team County" and base manufacturer liveries. At least for the online parts anyway, I can't see the FIA wanting their series full of custom made liveries containing anything and everything.

Wouldn't doubt it being just changing up the 'highlights' like some cars have, but this is all assuming they even bother. And I would bet they don't.

 

[Shirrako]

So, this is what we've been waiting for huh? I'm certainly going to need a lot more details before I think about buying a PS4 and this game. It's very strange for them to launch the game with such a strong focus on the online competition and FIA "prize giving". That is irrelevant to 95% of the gaming population, we already know there is no chance we're going to be stood next to Lewis Hamilton recieving a prize because we're not one of the top drivers. So what for us? Very little so far.

They say there is still an offline game so yeah, I'm going to need to know about that because competing in FIA championships doesn't really appeal.



I see you're still trying to pretend you're an "insider" here and Zlork still loves literally everything PD says and does. Not much changes round here.

Cars are licensed for individual games and there is no evidence to suggest any cars have been licensed per franchise and certainly no proof they're licensed for multiple franchises. Other than the fact they are the same cars, what evidence do you have that those "Driveclub cars" are in fact the Driveclub models, rather than ones created by PD of the same car?

Did I ever say that GT uses DC models and vice versa? No, read carefully before replying.

I said Sony owning the right to the cars varies on deal they made with the company that owns the cars, in Sony's case, buying licence for a single franchise for DC wouldn't be very clever with GT being their main racing franchise, now this had no backing up until yesterday's trailer, where you see numerous rare cars that appeared in Driveclub.

I never did pretend to be an insider, just because I have friends at the company behind the game doesn't mean I'm an insider.

Driveclub uses Driveclub models, GT uses GT models, licencing by Sony benefits in both games, that's the bottom line.

 

[Samus]

Did I ever say that GT uses DC models and vice versa? No, read carefully before replying.

I said Sony owning the right to the cars varies on deal they made with the company that owns the cars, in Sony's case, buying licence for a single franchise for DC wouldn't be very clever with GT being their main racing franchise, now this had no backing up until yesterday's trailer, where you see numerous rare cars that appeared in Driveclub.

I never did pretend to be an insider, just because I have friends at the company behind the game doesn't mean I'm an insider.

Driveclub uses Driveclub models, GT uses GT models, licencing by Sony benefits in both games, that's the bottom line.


Yes it is.

Except you have no proof or evidence of this whatsoever. The cars are licensed to the individual game and the developer making the game, not SONY. The same cars appearing in each game can easily be attributed to coincidence. Of course they're going to want similar cars.

Also even if what you were saying was true if PD are required to do their own modelling how can you possible say most Driveclub cars will appear in GT? What if PD don't want them, or prioritise other models?

 

[Shirrako]

Except you have no proof or evidence of this whatsoever. The cars are licensed to the individual game and the developer making the game, not SONY. The same cars appearing in each game can easily be attributed to coincidence. Of course they're going to want similar cars.

Who is the game funded by? Sony.
Who owns all the rights to the trademark? Sony.

GT is a trademark owned by Sony, meaning they own all the rights to the game.

The decision what to put in the game is PD's decision, however if they want new cars in the game, they will need to speak with Sony and the company that owns the rights to the car, for example , let's say BMW.

PD and Sony will need to make a deal with them, Sony will pay the fee BMW asks for and PD will then put the cars they have the rights to use in their game.

PD is not able to walk up to a company and make up a deal with them without Sony, they don't have the funding to do so, this is the same case with EA and the NFS developers.

 

[Samus]

Who is the game funded by? Sony.
Who owns all the rights to the trademark? Sony.

GT is a trademark owned by Sony, meaning they own all the rights to the game.

Great, and that proves manufacturers give a license to Sony which they can use as they please in any game how? PD are a subsidary company of Sony, manufacturers deal with PD directly for licensing cars to individual Gran Turismo games. Same for Driveclub and Evolution.

 

[R5]

Who is the game funded by? Sony.
Who owns all the rights to the trademark? Sony.

GT is a trademark owned by Sony, meaning they own all the rights to the game.

Your word isn't proof or evidence.

I'm failing to see the point of this discussion anyway.

 

[Shirrako]

Great, and that proves manufacturers give a license to Sony which they can use as they please in any game how? PD are a subsidary company of Sony, manufacturers deal with PD directly for licensing cars to individual Gran Turismo games. Same for Driveclub and Evolution.

As I previously mentioned, the deals vary, using the cars in different games comes with an additional cost, it also depends on what happens to the cars in the games, which has an effect on the cost of the licence, that being said, every company has different deals, such as Porsche's exclusive EA deal and many other companies.

 

[Samus]

As I previously mentioned, the deals vary, using the cars in different games comes with an additional cost, it also depends on what happens to the cars in the games, which has an effect on the cost of the licence, that being said, every company has different deals, such as Porsche's exclusive EA deal and many other companies.

See you're speaking in a factual manner again but with nothing to back it up.

you can expect 90% if not 100% of the Driveclub cars in GT Sport.

Seriously, please explain how this is true. Even if they do have access to them, what makes you think PD are interested in modelling all of those same cars?

 

[SlipZtrEm]

While many licencing is made for a single franchise, in that case, many companies allowed the use of their cars in GT only, however, they could easily be brought to from GT to DC, depending on the first contract deal in the first place.

Driveclub cars seem to not have been made "Franchise licence" which is clearly shown in the GT Sport trailer, as it includes a lot of the Driveclub cars, you can expect 90% if not 100% of the Driveclub cars in GT Sport.

Wait and see.

So that's a "no" to any proof, then. Thought so.

Don't state things as facts when it's just guess-work.

 

[Myles Prower]

Why would Evolution want to give their work to Polyphony?

 

[TheAnimeDude]

As I previously mentioned, the deals vary, using the cars in different games comes with an additional cost, it also depends on what happens to the cars in the games, which has an effect on the cost of the licence, that being said, every company has different deals, such as Porsche's exclusive EA deal and many other companies.

See you're speaking in a factual manner again but with nothing to back it up.



Seriously, please explain how this is true. Even if they do have access to them, what makes you think PD are interested in modelling all of those same cars?

So that's a "no" to any proof, then. Thought so.

Don't state things as facts when it's just guess-work.

Anyways..back to GT Sport..lol.

I think the new info is making me more confident in the product,but of course I prefer gameplay as proof,but yeah new info will be nice. This GT looking good.

 

[Shirrako]

See you're speaking in a factual manner again but with nothing to back it up.



Seriously, please explain how this is true. Even if they do have access to them, what makes you think PD are interested in modelling all of those same cars?

As I previously mentioned, the decision what to put in the game is up to PD, they could have 90% of the cars, but seeing how GT Sport's focus is on racing cars, I would lower that percentage.

So that's a "no" to any proof, then. Thought so.

Don't state things as facts when it's just guess-work.

Proof is the trailer which has been seen yesterday, which shows numerous cars from Driveclub and we can expect more to come, so my "proof" will become more and more reliable as time goes by, you can talk back smart once closer to release, call it a coincidence, will have a chat with you in a few months mate, good luck!

 

[Samus]

So your whole proof is that the same cars are in both games? Wow. You are still speaking as if you know these things when really you're just guessing. Like I said, it seems you have a strong desire to be seen as an insider when in reality it seems you simply email people and send messages on Facebook.

Yes, it would just be coincidence if GTS includes some cars that are also in Driveclub and you couldn't prove otherwise. I mean the AMG GT is the current flagship AMG model, of course both games are going to want to include it. That doesn't prove they did so using the same universal license.

 

[Shirrako]

So your whole proof is that the same cars are in both games? Wow. You are still speaking as if you know these things when really you're just guessing. Like I said, it seems you have a strong desire to be seen as an insider when in reality it seems you simply email people and send messages on Facebook.

Yes, it would just be coincidence if GTS includes some cars that are also in Driveclub and you couldn't prove otherwise. I mean the AMG GT is the current flagship AMG model, of course both games are going to want to include it. That doesn't prove they did so using the same universal license.

Indeed it doesn't mean they are using an universal licence, You have a great point with the AMG, but not with the Veneno, which should have appeared in GT6 as it was released in 2011? (correct me if I'm wrong)

The Veneno appearing in GT right after Driveclub does raise question, and if we see the new Peugeot Concepts that are in Driveclub or more rare cars from DC, that will simply mean my whole point was indeed correct.
Though I may still be wrong, from a licencing business point, it would make sense to include most DC cars since DC has some of the best Road Cars I've seen in a game (my opinion).
From what I've seen so far, I'm pretty much correct.

Go ahead and email some people, great fun

 

[R5]

Can we move on from this pointless conversation?

 

[Samus]

Indeed it doesn't mean they are using an universal licence, You have a great point with the AMG, but not with the Veneno, which should have appeared in GT6 as it was released in 2011? (correct me if I'm wrong)

The Veneno appearing in GT right after Driveclub does raise question, and if we see the new Peugeot Concepts that are in Driveclub or more rare cars from DC, that will simply mean my whole point was indeed correct.
Though I may still be wrong, from a licencing business point, it would make sense to include most DC cars since DC has some of the best Road Cars I've seen in a game (my opinion).
From what I've seen so far, I'm pretty much correct.

Go ahead and email some people, great fun

There are a ton of cars that "should" have appeared in GT6 but didn't, some of them in DC, some not. It really means nothing. People are only raising this with you because you continue to keep writing in a factual manner as if you know these things are true when in fact you're guessing.

 

[GTPorsche]

"Numerous cars from DC"

So...2 is "numerous"?

 

[Vspectra]

In my opinion, this has a very GT5/6 look. Probably the same engine with some settings turned up. Also, I consider Driveclub to be in a completely different league visually. Apart from the trees, this is just GT6 + higher res shadow maps + Higher AA and AF.

1080p only has 33% more pixels than GT6 and the PS4 GPU is quite a lot more powerful compared to RSX. I don't buy the argument that this is all the new GPU has to offer, GFX technology and shaders have come a long way since the GeForce 6000 series era. I know this is just 1 second of footage and that it may not even be the footage from the new GFX engine but this 1 sec of footage looks far from great. Even at 60 fps, things should look a lot better.

There's a huge upgrade in lighting and atmospherics, not to mention asset quality. Nurburgring now looks much more natural and can almost be mistaken for real life, and it's not due to motion blur or depth-of-field blurring out background detail with a heavy focus on realistically lit cars (which GT5/6 were always good at doing, but environments were a completely different story). Wouldn't be surprised if they implemented a physically based rendering workflow so textures and all surface materials accurately react to and reflect the sun's lighting.

While Driveclub is definitely pretty and can look realistic in dash cam, replays never look anywhere near photorealistic, partially because their car lighting still doesn't reach the levels of photorealism that GT6 reached regarding cars, and it even has the advantage of being half the framerate.

 

[Elitekilla29]

Ummmm..... Anyway i really, really, really hope that we can get some gameplay of this game at PSX. Or.... Another tralier but this time show off way more.

 

[Robin]

The thing I fear the most, knowing PD, is that now we have seen the first trailer it will be AGES before we hear any new news or get a 2nd trailer, they really aren't the best with marketing and PR!

 

[GT6mebe]

^^

GTS is coming out 2016 and the beta is early 2016 so I think we will be getting more frequent info in the coming year.

Ummmm..... Anyway i really, really, really hope that we can get some gameplay of this game at PSX. Or.... Another tralier but this time show off way more.

I definitely think we will get more at PSX. Hopefully its more clarification and a trailer.

 

[Samus]

It seems like they really wanted to get it announced in Paris because of the FIA connection but weren't ready to really tell us much more. PSX should definitely change that, and will be the real meat and potatoes announcement.

 

[oli440]

The thing I fear the most, knowing PD, is that now we have seen the first trailer it will be AGES before we hear any new news or get a 2nd trailer, they really aren't the best with marketing and PR!

Since the game has been announced and people know its existence, I have no doubt that they will show more at PSX in December, which isn't too far away. I'm certain they would be comfortable sharing more information then. They might even provide an exact release date to the BETA. I also wonder if, since the BETA isn't that far off, whether the game will be playable at PSX. It would give us an early insight as to what the game is like to play.