GT Sport Update v1.43 Arrives August 27, Adds Five New Cars And Rain

[Latetzki]

People have every right to be upset at the content included in these updates whether others like it or not.

And yet you couldn't even come up with anything that should be in the DLC.

 

[Satomiblood]

I actually do think that PD should switch to themes for their monthly car packs. This JDM pack is great. Maybe they'll have a race car pack to go along with Spa whenever that actually gets deployed. That would be a pretty agreeable pairing.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

So why are people being defensive when faced with an honest appraisal of the game and how the focus on road cars and single player races have been unnecessarily focused upon?

It's kinda the same mentality with anyone defending criticism like this. When people complain in that fashion, PD not adding modern race cars that the series showed focus on at the start and complain about constant additions for things like older Japanese sports cars. Then, say things like they have no place in the game and will never be used, it feels like an attack for people that like those cars. Some people defending these additions may feel the criticisms can lead PD to stop doing this and focus only on new race cars instead, thus the same defenders feel that they're getting their favorite things taken away.

To note, I don't believe the mentality myself of course. I more so would like to see them add the Ferrari 458 GT3, the new Aston Vantage GT3, and the Bentley Continental GT3.

trying to fill out a single player and road cars that get barely used.

and this is the only thing I disagree with, I don't believe that those road cars get barely used. I know that I use them, more so than any race car in my garage.

 

[theschledy]

Actually you got far less with GT6 considering it was a downsized (in many aspects ) GT5 but as far as GTS goes it was your mistake to give 90$ taking in to account that you could inform yourself before you made the purchase.

You focused too much on the $90 part of my comment, and missed that I said I loved the game.

 

[Silver Arrows]

And yet you couldn't even come up with anything that should be in the DLC.

Modern, recent GT4 cars like the Alpine A110 GT4? Porsche Cup cars? Camaro GT4.R?

Modern, recent GT3 cars? Bentley Continental GT3?

Hell, even add in an actual MX-5 Cup car or whatever. The fact that Assetto Corsa is the only game to have added one when it is a fundamental stepping stone to North American motorsports is insane to me.

It's kinda the same mentality with anyone defending criticism like this. When people complain in that fashion, PD not adding modern race cars that the series showed focus on at the start and complain about constant additions for things like older Japanese sports cars. Then, say things like they have no place in the game and will never be used, it feels like an attack for people that like those cars. Some people defending these additions may feel the criticisms can lead PD to stop doing this and focus only on new race cars instead, thus the same defenders feel that they're getting their favorite things taken away.

The problem is that ultimately, because of the mentality that Polyphony has had since the launch of this game, the racing cars are the most important vehicles in the game, and the fact that so much of the focus has been on adding road cars (which really don't get used in anything other then one-off weekly spec races that are dead last in terms of who actually plays them, open lobbies which are most just putt around servers 85% of the time, or put into single player races which are absolutely terrible to race in because the AI still hasn't gotten out of a 2005 mindset of chasing the rabbit, only now do the AI make mistakes occasionally) with the recent updates, that it's killing the main point of the game, the point that has alienated a few number of people that this was the new dawn of Gran Turismo.

and this is the only thing I disagree with, I don't believe that those road cars get barely used. I know that I use them, more so than any race car in my garage.

The problem is, where do you use them? for me at least, there's no point to the single player portion of the game, not only because the AI still sucks, as I have mentioned, and I don't really feel like partaking in a chase to the front spot. Not only that, but this game, by virtue of being an effectively always online game, you're pretty much railroaded into playing online as the main mode anyway. I'm certainly not going to feel like using them online, since GT Sport as a whole is so focused on GT racing, and those maybe even goes doubly so for the classic race cars, which are useless and are barely used by virtue of being sequestered into the land of misfit toys that is Group X.

 

[icenl]

Maybe they should stop with the FIA events? And focus more on the game itself? Especially with the poor racing standards and steward decisions. They could change them to streams where they show new content and maybe have some interviews with real race drivers and more reference laps?

I dont really care for spa, but a lot of sites where reporting about it combined with the update. Now the update which is quite nice even without spa turns (again) in to bad press for Gran Turismo.

 

[mk1xr2]

How do I find out what the new campaign races are?

 

[Magog]

The game used for the FIA events are all WIP builds that don't even run on normal PS4 Pros. We had to wait 2 months after rain was officially shown before we got it. If anything the live events are basically beta testing the content before release. Now we know that Spa is officially in the game and is coming very soon. This update came out only a day after the FIA event, it's understandable why Spa may be missing considering the same happened with rain.

Is that confirmed? The game runs on PCs at these events? That's terrible PR honestly.

 

[George Jakob]

People have every right to be upset at the content included in these updates whether others like it or not.

But they don't they can be if they want to but they don't have the right to because if you want to get technical you pay for what you get at release now if it didn't sutisfy you thats not thair problem and the simple fact is your pocket wasen't effected further and PD didn't provide a "road map" like codemasters with dirt rally 2 .

You focused too much on the $90 part of my comment, and missed that I said I loved the game.

My wording wasen't corrent apologies.

 

[GTFan24]

The game used for the FIA events are all WIP builds that don't even run on normal PS4 Pros. We had to wait 2 months after rain was officially shown before we got it. If anything the live events are basically beta testing the content before release. Now we know that Spa is officially in the game and is coming very soon. This update came out only a day after the FIA event, it's understandable why Spa may be missing considering the same happened with rain.

Wow i um.... don't even know how to respond to this...

 

[Silver Arrows]

The game used for the FIA events are all WIP builds that don't even run on normal PS4 Pros. We had to wait 2 months after rain was officially shown before we got it. If anything the live events are basically beta testing the content before release. Now we know that Spa is officially in the game and is coming very soon. This update came out only a day after the FIA event, it's understandable why Spa may be missing considering the same happened with rain.

Is that not typical though, running on different builds or dev kit consoles during big events? It allows for developers to control things and fix them in a somewhat closed garden, and timely manner.

 

[Sploshington]

The rain effect looks so beautiful. I wonder if we'll be able to drive the Redbull Rain track in VR ?
Drive Club VR had to take out all of it's beautiful rain effects, I hope that PD will still be able to include it in VR mode

 

[Vspectra]

Is that confirmed? The game runs on PCs at these events? That's terrible PR honestly.

Probably PS4Pro's with more memory. It doesn't have anything to do with PR. They want to ensure the game doesn't crash at a live event on builds that haven't been certified by Sony for public release. The rain demo they had at the event back in June was completely different to the one they used in the Live event.

 

[GTFan24]

I forgot to mention this, but it blows my mind that people are actually hyped and excited... for 2 duplicates.....

2.
Duplicates.

 

[Loverson]

I actually do think that PD should switch to themes for their monthly car packs. This JDM pack is great. Maybe they'll have a race car pack to go along with Spa whenever that actually gets deployed. That would be a pretty agreeable pairing.

If the trade is basically getting a theme pack, i'm fine
If we get an all racing pack with most of them gr3./4 etc... It should please many.
Of course, it is impossible pleasing everybody but it'd be good.

Balance wise though would be rough.

 

[Volksauto]

I forgot to mention this, but it blows my mind that people are actually hyped and excited... for 2 duplicates.....

2.
Duplicates.

I'm not excited for those. I'm excited for the three others.

 

[MOV Games]

I forgot to mention this, but it blows my mind that people are actually hyped and excited... for 2 duplicates.....

2.
Duplicates.

You could probably say that for the Levin, but the Type R Impreza is absolutely not a dupe. It's not like they have added a Midnight Purple R33 or something that has no technical differentiation.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

The problem is, where do you use them? for me at least, there's no point to the single player portion of the game, not only because the AI still sucks, as I have mentioned, and I don't really feel like partaking in a chase to the front spot.

Actually, single player mode. Really, I do enjoy driving them in custom races I create myself, sometimes pinning road cars against race cars for a bit of silliness. I also actually do play and enjoy the GT mode despite the "chase the rabbit" nature it has and also because I'm literally just plain average at driving. I also do a lot of hotlapping with cars as I kinda like the solitude of just me on the track. This isn't just a GT thing either, I hot lap on Forza, Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, and Raceroom aswell.

Not only that, but this game, by virtue of being an effectively always online game, you're pretty much railroaded into playing online as the main mode anyway. I'm certainly not going to feel like using them online, since GT Sport as a whole is so focused on GT racing, and those maybe even goes doubly so for the classic race cars, which are useless and are barely used by virtue of being sequestered into the land of misfit toys that is Group X.

I rarely used the online racing modes, I think I only did one sports mode race and while I found it somewhat enjoyable; I don't think I can enjoy that kind of racing for continuous times. The fact GT Sport was so online focused at launch is why I didn't buy it until after they added this GT League.

I think I joined an online lobby for the first time a couple of days ago, but I didn't recall seeing that many race car focused lobbies. A good chunk of them also focused on road cars.

 

[MatskiMonk]

I like threads like this, really helps pad out the ignore list, y'know.

 

[Silver Arrows]

You could probably say that for the Levin, but the Type R Impreza is absolutely not a dupe. It's not like they have added a Midnight Purple R33 or something that has no technical differentiation.

They already have the most powerful GC8 era Impreza in the 22B though. It's hard to really think of it as anything but a downgrade, especially since it's yet another coupe, and not a four door, which would at least make a bit of sense and not feel like the same thing.

 

[George Jakob]

I forgot to mention this, but it blows my mind that people are actually hyped and excited... for 2 duplicates.....

2.
Duplicates.

Technically one duplicate.

 

[Mr Taskforce]

Again, another update where I could personally care less for any of the cars in it. It seems silly because PD loves adding production cars you can barely do anything to; It’s just the livery editor and a basic upgrade system.

Would really want more modern race cars from different disciplines, because those actually seem useful and are purpose built for racing. But it is what it is. Just my opinion.

 

[RACECAR]

I forgot to mention this, but it blows my mind that people are actually hyped and excited... for 2 duplicates.....

2.
Duplicates.

You could possibly argue that about the Corolla, but the Impreza is not a duplicate. They didn't just throw in a USDM version of the same thing, the car is actually different from the 22B.

 

[Silver Arrows]

You could possibly argue that about the Corolla, but the Impreza is not a duplicate. They didn't just throw in a USDM version of the same thing, the car is actually different from the 22B.

Again, we already have the 22B, and to be quite honest, this isn't like GT of before where you can pad and stack the car list with various performance models of a generation and have it not stick out. In fact, it probably sticks out even more now. As mentioned above, it's not like we can even upgrade the vehicles extensively to make up the difference, it's such a binary system that most don't even bother.

 

[Oberdan]

one thing who like of bring of game:
Damage of cars!

 

[GTFan24]

You could possibly argue that about the Corolla, but the Impreza is not a duplicate. They didn't just throw in a USDM version of the same thing, the car is actually different from the 22B.

I was actually referring to the S2000 since we already have it in the form of Amuse but im not sure if it even counts as a duplicate

 

[George Jakob]

It seems silly because PD loves adding production cars you can barely do anything to; It’s just the livery editor and a basic upgrade system.

Like any other car in the game?.

because those actually seem useful and are purpose built for racing. But it is what it is. Just m

Thats subjective.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I forgot to mention this, but it blows my mind that people are actually hyped and excited... for 2 duplicates.....

2.
Duplicates.

The Subaru isn't a duplicate no matter how much you tell yourself that.

 

[George Jakob]

I was actually referring to the S2000 since we already have it in the form of Amuse

Are you actually serious?.

 

[MOV Games]

They already have the most powerful GC8 era Impreza in the 22B though. It's hard to really think of it as anything but a downgrade, especially since it's yet another coupe, and not a four door, which would at least make a bit of sense and not feel like the same thing.

Doesn't the 22B also have shorter gearing and other differences compared to all other late 90's Impreza's though? I see this Type R as a representation for the "normal" Impreza and the 22B as the special anniversary car that it is.

Not saying that it was a nessecery inclusion in Sport compared to the eventual GT7 though, and even in that IMO you wouldn't need any more models from this gen apart from a wagon, four door and maybe a really early 94/95 one anyway, so that true duplicates don't happen again like the infamous GTR's.