GT Sport's Next Content Update is On Its Way

[Nuschel01]

Yes but thats exactly what makes Le Mans so great! Only the cars that drive over the finish line after 24 hours and with longest distance actually win the race... Unlike F1

True. But the 787b is a bit over-hyped and would‘ve been destroyed if the other cars didn‘t have as many problems
I still consider it a legendary car but not because it „dominated LeMans and then the ACO banned Wankels“

 

[Brzlav]

True. But the 787b is a bit over-hyped and would‘ve been destroyed if the other cars didn‘t have as many problems
I still consider it a legendary car but not because it „dominated LeMans and then the ACO banned Wankels“

I still find it both hilarious and sad (for Toyota) that Mazda is the only Japanese manufacturer to win Le Mans after Toyota put so much effort into it. I wonder what will happen this year to make Rebellion take it...

 

[Tou2istTrophy]

Just you wait until DevilzGraveyard enters the Asia region FIA races. No one will stand a chance...

 

[Famine]

This pretty much covers the 787B's win.

And while it seems pretty down on the car, it's my favourite Group C.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Your post just says PD will BoP them. Tell me something I don't know. What I'm asking you is: can PD, realistically, BoP them? The answer is: they can't. Closing a 15 second gap (not to mention different fuel consumption rates) is not happening without significant changes to both types of car, at which point they become unrealistic representations of their real-life counterparts, for the sake of in-game balance. You see where my problem is? I want to drive an LMP1 with performance figures of an LMP1 and a Group C with performance figures of a Group C. This is why I don't like race cars in GT Sport, they're attempting to make apples race oranges by, essentially making cars "apges" or "oranples". Their original and correct performance is erased.



That was my mistake. Group C made it into the chicane era. They did start without them though.

There is NO SUCH GAP. The lmp1 cars are not '17 models. The two R18's are '16 and '11, the 908 is '10, the TS030 is '12, the TS050 is '16 and the 919 is from '16.

 

[MIE1992]

I really wanna know more about that ticket system... At the least, I want something to do with my duplicate cars - maybe have the option to sell them, but for less credits than if you bought them? Also, I totally called the Group C racers being in Gr.1.

EDIT: I'm also wondering what could become of other layouts we've seen for tracks already in the game? I recall that Le Mans and Nurburgring had quite a few other layouts other than the ones in-game thus far. Upon more reading, here's what we could see from older GT games:

-Le Mans
2005 (with & w/o chicane, seen in GT4)
2009 (seen in GT5)
2013 (seen in GT6)

-Nurburgring
GP/D (we already have the GP/F, and the GP/D is a slightly smaller course within it)
Type V (IIRC it's basically the Nordschliefe combined with the GP/D vs. the GP/F in the 24h layout, but correct me if I'm wrong.)

-Suzuka
West Course (we already have East...)

Of course, other than the Nurburgring GP/D and the Suzuka West Course, I think the rest of these could be saved for a more formal GT installment over being in GT Sport, if something else (e.g. another track or track layout) needs to be given development priority.

 

[Sparkz_360]

*Sigh* and here come the duplicates (but it isn’t a Skyline!).

Jokes aside though, I can’t understand why they decided to add another Clio when we have the 2015 version, I doubt they’re very different, probably aesthetically yes, but what about performance? Probably a minute difference.

They could’ve added any hot hatch:
Focus R.S. MK3
VW Golf R MK7
BMW M135i
(I could go on...)

Or if they really had to add a Renault, they could’ve added a beauty/Classic:
Clio V6
5 Turbo
Avantime (Which is neither, but I liked it *blushes*.

As for the update itself, bring it on as I have Wednesday and Thursday off!

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Just you wait until DevilzGraveyard enters the Asia region FIA races. No one will stand a chance...

I spoke of him highly once, but I was informed that he was affected by the grip bug. Also explains why he never appeared in the Top 10 leaderboards again

 

[Nuschel01]

The Clio and BRZ were probably done within a week if less and are only there to boost the car count imo. I‘d understand it if this was GT4 where graphics really didn‘t matter and most of the time cars with the same general body just had different names or colors and the occassional minor adjustments to their bodies. If we already had like 600 cars in GTS i wouldn‘t really mind about adding such a car as the Clio now but right now it just feels like it‘s there to get up the car count.

 

[BrunusCL82]

A kick in the testicles! Craving for vomit!

Group C = Gr. 1.

Ridiculous! Ridiculous, PD!

Big mistake!

 

[Tou2istTrophy]

I spoke of him highly once, but I was informed that he was affected by the grip bug. Also explains why he never appeared in the Top 10 leaderboards again

He beat Shooter, nothing left to prove... got out while he was the best in the world. Forever #1


(Jk btw)

 

[trustjab]

Ok, found some more recent downforce numbers; https://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/680406.html has a lot of information about the Toyota TS040. This picture has downforce totals for front and rear at 280kmh (~175mph)

That's 1,450kg or about 3,200lbs for Le Mans spec I think. That's 4 years ago though so I'm sure the newer lmp1's in GTS are better but yeah, I think bop between the two shouldn't be a problem.

 

[tofuhero]

*Sigh* and here come the duplicates (but it isn’t a Skyline!).

Jokes aside though, I can’t understand why they decided to add another Clio when we have the 2015 version, I doubt they’re very different, probably aesthetically yes, but what about performance? Probably a minute difference.

They could’ve added any hot hatch:
Focus R.S. MK3
VW Golf R MK7
BMW M135i
(I could go on...)

Yeah, we still have no MINI Cooper in the game (besides the silly VGT), and they could've added the modern Fiat 500 that people would actually race instead of the heritage Fiat 500 that will be used in a One Make race and some Scapes, and then forgotten about by 99% of the players.

I was really happy to see the Class C cars, and then they inexplicably put them in Gr.1. Is Gr.1 going to be a race car dumping ground? As others have said, I want to race these cars with the performance they had at the time and against other cars of their era. What's the point of all this attention to detail and realism when we are expected to drive Class C cars against a 919 or a VGT? It's silly.

Happy about Le Sarthe though. Wish it had been Spa, but I'll take it. Crossing fingers for rain to make it in this update.

 

[Grandea GTR]

"Why is the sambabus 500 important?"

 

[J.D]

Happy about Le Sarthe though. Wish it had been Spa, but I'll take it. Crossing fingers for rain to make it in this update.

do you think guys that the rain could be added in this update? there is no mention in the update note

 

[DatNoiseV12]

Your post just says PD will BoP them. Tell me something I don't know. What I'm asking you is: can PD, realistically, BoP them? The answer is: they can't. Closing a 15 second gap (not to mention different fuel consumption rates) is not happening without significant changes to both types of car, at which point they become unrealistic representations of their real-life counterparts, for the sake of in-game balance. You see where my problem is? I want to drive an LMP1 with performance figures of an LMP1 and a Group C with performance figures of a Group C. This is why I don't like race cars in GT Sport, they're attempting to make apples race oranges by, essentially making cars "apges" or "oranples". Their original and correct performance is erased.

For the "sake of in-game balance", we also have the Audi eTron GT keeping up with R18s and the like, as I said before. If you ask Kaz how's that even possible, he'd probably starts singing Do you believe in magic

..about difficulties....

PD with their game makes every thing they Wants.... a Daihatsu midget gr.4 too..

IR

Yeah, can't really understand why they put it in Gr. 4 when there's already a Megane in there and it's very different compared to the V6 Trophy. After all, the point of the Gr. 4 class is about racing mildly upgraded production cars. The V6, with a much wider bodywork, bigger wing and diffuser, completely different MR layout and wider tires doesn't seem to fit in. You'd probably need at least 200 kilos of ballast to try to slow it down..

 

[tofuhero]

do you think guys that the rain could be added in this update? there is no mention in the update note

Well, sometimes they leave off features until the full patch notes. But no, I have no expectation of it, but adding it when they add the most famous 24-hour endurance race track would make sense.

 

[Auditore]

New Scapes

Hope one day PD adds Brazil Scapes,Interlago is in the game but there are no Scapes in the country

History repeats.
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What the hell is that building?

 

[Volksauto]

"Why is the sambabus 500 important?"

Because Gran Turismo is a racing game about cars and those two vehicles are cars so they are very welcome and important in GT. They add variety to the car list.

 

[Vspectra]

do you think guys that the rain could be added in this update? there is no mention in the update note

It most likely would have been in the trailer and mentioned in Kaz's post if there was rain. A weather update isn't something small to simply not make it an announcement.

 

[warp9engage]

There is NO SUCH GAP. The lmp1 cars are not '17 models. The two R18's are '16 and '11, the 908 is '10, the TS030 is '12, the TS050 is '16 and the 919 is from '16.

There IS A GAP! Lap-times don't lie. It's simple math, lower means better. So maybe, at Le Mans, the gap isn't that large because Le Mans is, for the most part, a high-speed track. So much so, in fact, that manufacturers build specific configurations for it, while having others for the rest of the tracks. Speaking of other tracks, we've only been comparing LMP1 vs Group C at Le Mans, but that's not the only track in the game. What about more technical courses? What if we have tight or technical sections that will benefit the superior technology, both in aero and hybrid power, LMP1s have? It's not all about Le Mans, they have to balance them everywhere. That makes the BoP for that, even more difficult and ridiculous.

However, I digress because, as others have already pointed out, this ends up being a pointless debate. GT Sport is more about play-ability and competition than it is about raw realism. For raw realism, look elsewhere. Debate over.

 

[azeeza]

And what's the point of the BRZ S when we already have the 86 GRMN?

Subaru =/= Toyota
If it has something to say about these free cars, it's the Clio that is pointless

 

[UGA95]

11 million for 6 laps??

 

[Islaygaz]

There never ever was anything rally-related in Group C

That’s true but remember PD put GT500 super GT cars in Gr.2 so I don’t think they are strictly following real racing class designations. Apart from perhaps Gr.3 & 4 being closely related to real life GT3 and GT4 (ish)!

 

[Rotorist]

If you look at the screenshot of the FIA result screen you‘ll notice that the secondary region probably narrows down the location of the player even more. So you‘re not only a US player but more specific a California player i.e.


It raced under C2 rules and only won because every other competitor DNF‘d or had some serious problems iirc

But it isn't Mazda's fault that others went for power and they tuned the 787B for reliability. It is known that they restricted the rpms for its quad rotary engine to just 690PS instead of +900PS to reduce fuel consumption and not risk anything. And they were proven correct eh?

 

[Mendori]

Thanks PD

 

[Auditore]

Well, on one side I am very grateful to PD for giving us free updates including cars and (sometimes) tracks. I love this game's presentation and graphics so much more than the competitors. I generally like the car lineup and what the bring with each update.

HOWEVER:

PD has to wake up. Honestly. We GT fans are hooked to this game but nobody in their right mind would pick this one up when compared to Project Cars or Asseto Corsa (even so people buy GT, by the millions). It is kind of ridiculous when you compare the car and track lists.

I know they won't. They have always been "outsiders" in this videogame industry. Maybe "outsider" is not the right word but I mean they don't feel like they have to answer to anybody and do what they want at their own pace.

I always thought Polyphony Digital and Nintendo are quite similar,they always do their own weird thing without giving a single 🤬 but their name holds alot of weight and their sales numbers are far ahead from the competition.The only way for PD to change their ways is if a Gran Turismo game bombed hard which is very difficult to happen.

"Why is the sambabus 500 important?"

Because being silly is important gahddangit.

 

[Epic B]

So what's the difference between the 2016 Clio and the one we already have in the game?

I'm surprised the Group Cs are in Group 1 and not, you know, Group C but I'm not complaining either. If they're all a million each like the other Group 1s I should have enough to buy them all since I have 3 million in the bank now. Can't wait to take these for a spin up against modern prototypes.

Surprised the Megane Trophy is in Group 4 but I can dig it. I'll pick one up as fast as I can.

And please, give me that Fiat 500.

I'm not that interested in the Evo IV or the BRZ so much but the Miura is cool. But I probably can't afford it and I already have my radar on the Group Cs, the Megane and the Fiat 500.

 

[GTvsForza]

DELETE

 

[BrunusCL82]

There IS A GAP! Lap-times don't lie. It's simple math, lower means better. So maybe, at Le Mans, the gap isn't that large because Le Mans is, for the most part, a high-speed track. So much so, in fact, that manufacturers build specific configurations for it, while having others for the rest of the tracks. Speaking of other tracks, we've only been comparing LMP1 vs Group C at Le Mans, but that's not the only track in the game. What about more technical courses? What if we have tight or technical sections that will benefit the superior technology, both in aero and hybrid power, LMP1s have? It's not all about Le Mans, they have to balance them everywhere. That makes the BoP for that, even more difficult and ridiculous.

However, I digress because, as others have already pointed out, this ends up being a pointless debate. GT Sport is more about play-ability and competition than it is about raw realism. For raw realism, look elsewhere. Debate over.

Group C has a vast cast of cars. In addition to the three added in this latest update, there are still others. GTS may have more than ten cars in Group C.

Thus, it would be fully feasible to create a new Gr. Maybe Gr. C or Gr.1-C. What would be the difficulty?

It would be the best solution, IMO.

Putting Group C in the category Gr. 1 shows more an attitude of laziness than anything else. It is a gross mistake.

Thankfully, PD did not put the Super GT in Gr.3. We escape!