GT4 General Discussion and Questions
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OK I know there is no Toyota ,Nissan, Dodge,Ford, ..., or even Mitsubishi in real life ,that were all fake or maybe mostly. it's all on GT4.
I wounder how did PD invent these names?????
I didn't say you are wrong ,I said ( would you prefer to get wrong information ?!!!)
why I'm asking this, because you said (feel lucky that they gave the Audi TT a merely incorrect drivetrain.)
💡 amazing (maybe I didn't understand it from first)
so an easy answer well be enough .
why do you want me play chess with you?
you do that move I will do this . the old story begin again.
so lets forget the old story.
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Oooooooooo-kay then.
Almost all information in all Gran Turismo games is "merely incorrect". That was my point. This was backed up, shortly after, by Danachronism's post about the incorrect weights for the two Opel Speedsters/Vauxhall VX220s.
My previous point was to highlight the many cars in GT that are missing whole hosts of data - drivetrain data, dimensions, power, torque, value, country of origin - with the message that picking up on one car for incorrect data and whining on about it incessantly is quite futile.
Further to this, the data highlighted is clearly not wrong. There is no non-4WD car in GT4 that can be fitted with a VCD. The Audi TT can be fitted with a VCD and so is 4WD, as described.
The data is irrelevant. Just. Drive. The. Damn. Things.
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Ok, new question.
What color Mercury Cougar XR-7 did you receive when you achieved your S lisense?
I'm trying to get one in caspain blue but all I keep winning is turquoise, polar white and fawn.
I must have run the final test 6 times last night, (won gold once) only to have to hit reset in order to try again.
On a good note, its becomming second nature to run the ring.
But I still want my caspain blue zero miles on the Odometer Cougar.
What color Mercury Cougar XR-7 did you receive when you achieved your S lisense?
I'm trying to get one in caspain blue but all I keep winning is turquoise, polar white and fawn.
I must have run the final test 6 times last night, (won gold once) only to have to hit reset in order to try again.
On a good note, its becomming second nature to run the ring.
But I still want my caspain blue zero miles on the Odometer Cougar.
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Right, because after all, car manufacturers NEVER release incorrect specs for their cars, and showrooms always have accurate specific data on all their cars.
How dare a game be released with over 700 cars where less than 1% of the "specs" are inaccurate!
I demand 100% accuracy, even if it means they have to take every car apart, piece by piece, and do their own precise measurements, and accurate list of all parts. Then they must put them all back together again, and do their own performance testing using state of the art equipment and scientific methods to insure 100% accuracy...
Because, after all, we know for a fact that the manufacturers, car reviewers, and other game developers all do that as well, and all report the exact same 100% accurate specs...
PD should be ashamed of them selves!
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My Cougar is Polar White. You should've left some shorter test as your last (like the one in Ice Arena). You'd get the car a lot quicker. Why does it have to be blue anyway?
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Quite a noticeable mistake is the car names, some of them have the same word twice but in capitals the 2nd time (e.g. Subaru SUBARU 360, Honda HONDA S2000), or they have some words in capitals, or they say 'race car' or 'rally car' at the end when they shouldn't, or the chassis codes are in brackets at the end rather than wherever they should be. How can PD struggle so much with getting the names accurate?
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Geez... where to begin...
I think Diego pretty much said it best, especially about those whining and nit-picking about small meaningless details, but I'd change Diego's last sentence to:
"How can some people struggle so much with getting their facts right and instead often over exaggerate everything... especially someone who is a Guides Editor for GTP?"
BTW: I'm still waiting for your list of those 360 or more car names in GT4 that you claim couldn't be more inaccurate, and the 200 or more Japanese cars that you claim are the exact same car just made in a different year with a different spoiler or whatever.
Or at the very least begin to acknowledge the mistakes you have made, and stop exaggerating so much.
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Hmm?[/SARCASM]©
You forgot that my friend
I'm sure what D-N said wasn't sarcasm.
The way I think about it is this: if you were given the job to list every detail of 700+ cars in the game perfectly, of which some cars are quite rare or obscure so hardly information exists about them, how would you do? Yes, they do have a "team" of people, but I seriously doubt due to the scale of the job you would get every single detail right. Considering how perfect they are aiming to make things, they must be truly unintentional mistakes, or are there for a reason.
Yeeesh. Get over it.
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WOW.I have to explain my idea to every one.
well personally I will say ,don't give these cars specifications if you don't know about these (like Mazda6 concept and Nissan CUBE as members say).beside they give us incorrect specifications .
And people it was only a hoooooope.
I'm very sorry.and my apologize to any member especially Famine
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Exactly.
The post I made before it was sarcastic of course... thus I tagged it appropriately.
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I guess you didn't understand my first response.
The point I was making is that car manufacturers, showroom dealers, car reviewers, and other game developers all post inaccurate specs, some more often then others... people make mistakes, and sometimes it's the mistake of the person supplying the information. For instance, how do you know all the "spec errors" that GT4 were made by PD and they didn't get bad information from the manufacturers for some, perhaps many of those "errors"?
That was also my point about the fact that the only way any game could be 100% accurate would be if they took apart every single car and tested every single car for every possible performance criteria. Clearly they do not, and must often rely on the information that they are given.
BTW: This also may not result in 100% accurate specs, because as anyone who follows the auto industry knows, that not only do some same model year cars get spec altering changes, thus two cars of the same model and same production year will have differences.
Are there typos, mistakes, oversights in the GT4 - yes, absolutely, and again, completely understandable considering the massive amount of data... and to expect, even demand 100% accuracy is in my opinion, totally absurd... thus the inspiration for my sarcastic post.
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Exactly.
The post I made before it was sarcastic of course... thus I tagged it appropriately.
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I guess you didn't understand my first response.
The point I was making is that car manufacturers, showroom dealers, car reviewers, and other game developers all post inaccurate specs, some more often then others... people make mistakes, and sometimes it's the mistake of the person supplying the information. For instance, how do you know all the "spec errors" that GT4 were made by PD and they didn't get bad information from the manufacturers for some, perhaps many of those "errors"?
That was also my point about the fact that the only way any game could be 100% accurate would be if they took apart every single car and tested every single car for every possible performance criteria. Clearly they do not, and must often rely on the information that they are given.
BTW: This also may not result in 100% accurate specs, because as anyone who follows the auto industry knows, that not only do some same model year cars get spec altering changes, thus two cars of the same model and same production year will have differences.
Are there typos, mistakes, oversights in the GT4 - yes, absolutely, and again, completely understandable considering the massive amount of data... and to expect, even demand 100% accuracy is in my opinion, totally absurd... thus the inspiration for my sarcastic post.
Is this ([/SARCASM]©) again?💡
because it will be useless if I wrote any thing .
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It should be VERY obvious it isn't, but do you see a ([/SARCASM]©) in or at the end of that last post?
I hate to say this, but I'm finding your last few posts pretty useless even when you are not replying to sarcasm, so I don't see how it would even make a difference.
Perhaps we should just chalk this recent discussion down as a "Lost in Translation" moment.
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It should be VERY obvious it isn't, but do you see a ([/SARCASM]©) in or at the end of that last post?
I hate to say this, but I'm finding your last few posts pretty useless even when you are not replying to sarcasm, so I don't see how it would even make a difference.
Perhaps we should just chalk this recent discussion down as a "Lost in Translation" moment.
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WOW you did it again 👍 even you didn't notice that.
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Correct... if they were relying on the stats the manufacturers published when those cars were released... and that they got all their specs in the exact same manor. This only points out the fact that manufacturers, either on purpose or by mistake, also publish and or pass on inaccurate specs.
I would suggest, as evident by many of the specs in GT4, that PD, and completely understandably so, got their specs from many different sources, including different sources within each manufacturer, and including the data PD got from their own inspection and research.
Once again, in my opinion it is completely unreasonable to ever expect a game like GT4, or any other game like it to ever be 100% accurate. It's simply never going to happen when you consider the massive amount of data points, specs, performance criteria, testing methods, and of course inaccuracies from manufacturers, and differences among same model and same production year cars. In addition, to then also blame a game developer for all the spec errors is equally unreasonable.
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