GT4 vs Forza [Let the battle begin]

[TigJackson]

Personally I think these new screenshots surpass Gran Turismo 4

LMAO!!!! I don't know where you actually live, but if you let me know, I can probably recommend a good optometrist in your area....you need all the help you can get.

 

[tigre_hobbes]

it doesn't surpassed GT4 but damn the Maranello is great.....

 

[ChristmasGTO]

Well all the Geometry Blows GT4 away Theres no Comparison in that Aspect.

But it still just looks..off The added shadowing makes a MAJOR differance now.

I think the Final Key is the deepness of the Colors in the Cars, Or Perhaps Reflections:

http://www.forzacentral.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=177&c=5&cutoffdate=all

But no doubt about it, Polygon wise theres not a comparison between the two.

 

[Guru_Nissan]

Sure I agree with the polygon, and yes it has some better Details that GT4 dont have, but it still to me doesnt make it better, sure its a good game and will, but both will have great ratings, but i still feel that forza colors and reflection are too xboxish ( as in dull and a little weird)

And common you know you still play your gt3, people say there were better games, but content wise(damage, online, and custimazation that gt4 has in a way) Some people might pick Forza, but you will still see them getting gt4 for its own reason.

No Forza for me, Cause I dont own a Xbox and never will, not hating, but i cant handle two systems, the best system is enough for me.

 

[cobragt]

surpasses gt4? No. Well that's your opinions so it's cool but forza just doesnt look realistic and honestly, those pics suck.

 

[RazorDK]

22 AMAZING screens from the new build

http://www.forzacentral.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6398&posted=1#post6398

Personally I think these new screenshots surpass Gran Turismo 4 these are by far the best screenshots I've seen for Forza I just wish they were a touch bigger

Yep, they look fantastic..especially the Road Atlanta screens.

Gameinformer has posted the same screens (the size is just larger)

Gameinformer

 

[McLaren]

surpasses gt4? No. Well that's your opinions so it's cool but forza just doesnt look realistic and honestly, those pics suck.

Cobra, shut up. Try getting your head out of KY's ares for once.

 

[RazorDK]

surpasses gt4? No. Well that's your opinions so it's cool but forza just doesnt look realistic and honestly, those pics suck.

Yes Forza doesn't look realistic compared to GT4.

I am only impressed by GT4´s car moddels. The track environment is pretty bad. (Low res textures, blurry)

 

[McLaren]

That's a good thing for Forza. Track detail is amazing. GT4's is blurred in the background, while Forza's. You can practically see the stems of the trees in Forza's background, while GT4's blurs and then comes into focus. But not by much.

 

[Ubiquitous]

omg it's a hoverintegra!!!!

yeah and err anyway... of COURSE Forzas textures are higher res... it's on a more powerful machine... if you compare how far ahead the Xbox hardware is over the PS2's and then see how nice GT4 looks you would then realise that considering the hardware GT4 looks far better. If GT4 were on the Xbox it would dazzle you even more... cause it has better hardware... but again I'll remember all the fools who play the texture card when the next gen consoles are out and Sony's PS3 is released later therefore meaning it has superior hardware... it will be nice to throw all these back in your faces once you start giving the same explanations as to why Forza 8 looks worse than GT5 >_<

Those pics do look quite nice, but anything can look crisp when they are at such a low resolution...

 

[erahk64]

New hands-on previews of a new preview build.
According to the first preview, the build is about 4 months from finalized.

http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200501/N05.0117.1608.38326.htm

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/581/581317p1.html

 

[cobragt]

razor, have you seen gt4 and forza in motion? If you honestly believe forza looks as or more realistic than gt4, something is wrong

 

[ChristmasGTO]

omg it's a hoverintegra!!!!

yeah and err anyway... of COURSE Forzas textures are higher res... it's on a more powerful machine... if you compare how far ahead the Xbox hardware is over the PS2's and then see how nice GT4 looks you would then realise that considering the hardware GT4 looks far better. If GT4 were on the Xbox it would dazzle you even more... cause it has better hardware... but again I'll remember all the fools who play the texture card when the next gen consoles are out and Sony's PS3 is released later therefore meaning it has superior hardware... it will be nice to throw all these back in your faces once you start giving the same explanations as to why Forza 8 looks worse than GT5 >_<

Those pics do look quite nice, but anything can look crisp when they are at such a low resolution...

MS And Sony got almost Identical Video Cars from ATI I remember hearing about that awhile ago, My prediction:

All systems will have around the same Graphics, It'll just come down to Gameplay, And Im really Hoping that Nintendo (for the love of god please) pulls out all the stops for Online Gaming its next console, Super Smash Brothers Online, Seriously.

 

[cobragt]

http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200501/N05.0117.1608.38326.htm
there's another forza preview

 

[granturismoman]

Forza is **** !

 

[cobragt]

And if you think that gamespot pic is close to showing how good gt4 looks, you are blind.
http://www.gamesmediamirror.com/leech_1070_en.html
Look at gt4 in motion, forza just doesn't stand up to gt4 in visuals

 

[Ubiquitous]

MS And Sony got almost Identical Video Cars from ATI I remember hearing about that awhile ago, My prediction:

All systems will have around the same Graphics, It'll just come down to Gameplay, And Im really Hoping that Nintendo (for the love of god please) pulls out all the stops for Online Gaming its next console, Super Smash Brothers Online, Seriously.

Not sure where you read that because nVidia signed a contract a while ago to make the GPU for the PS3. Microsoft have ATI for the new Xbox.

Also.. Microsoft will again be focusing on Direct X based things which are similar to standard PC hardware. Sony are going a different way and exploring other ways of coding... plus of course the Cell CPU system which is brand new and being developed as we speak... It's not a conventional processors and will have some interesting results.. just like the Emotion engine did in the PS2.

 

[Dave A]

Cobra, you have to admit, thoes screens are fantastic, the car models may not be as good as GT4's but the rest of it is better, far better. Your only comparing your opinion of the Forza demo build to GT4, hell why don't we compare it GT4 which was almost the same as GT3 in terms of graphics, even thats not fair to Forza since GT4 was a finished product.

 

[cobragt]

live, I'm all about the realistic visuals man, forza doesn't have realistic visuals and forza wont change much in visuals in the final product. The game will still look unrealistic.

 

[Dave A]

It's changed since the demo, including the physics. You can whore GT4's graphics all you want but at the end of the day your only fooling yourself trying use that as Forza's downfall from greatness, though I have to admit your far from the biggest KY ass kisser in here . I don't mind you whoring the graphcs anymore though as long as you don't start saying GT4's better in areas that it's not I'm not gonna give you any flak. Forza has majoy + points as does GT4, people forget that.

 

[cobragt]

gt4's art direction is better to me, forza's graphics are way better than gt4's, like better textures. forza wont look anymore realistic than it does now live, simple as that.

 

[Pebb]

I know at CES 2005 when they did a race with Bill Gates, against someone else half-way or a quarter of the way though the demo of Forza Motorsports crashed.

Then when it crashed the blue screen of death showed up on the screen lol.

 

[Dave A]

Yeah, and it was an incomplete code, hence the reason the game isn't finished yet. Although it is funny when that happens to Microsoft.

 

[McLaren]

gt4's art direction is better to me, forza's graphics are way better than gt4's, like better textures. forza wont look anymore realistic than it does now live, simple as that.

SO you swicthed them heh? I remember you saying GT4 graphics were way better, and that Forza had the better art design.

IMO, Forza actually showed a big change from the pics of 2004 tp the ones now.
Don't rely on Team Xbox Cobra. Team Xbox has always had bad pictures.

What bites me though it that even though other places have far newer pics, IGN and Gamespot are weeks behind, and then get them up.

 

[cobragt]

I never said gt4 had better graphics, I dont think I did. I said the visuals were better and when I say visuals, I mean the actual look. When I refer to graphics, I'm talking about what's on paper.

 

[ChristmasGTO]

Not sure where you read that because nVidia signed a contract a while ago to make the GPU for the PS3. Microsoft have ATI for the new Xbox.

Also.. Microsoft will again be focusing on Direct X based things which are similar to standard PC hardware. Sony are going a different way and exploring other ways of coding... plus of course the Cell CPU system which is brand new and being developed as we speak... It's not a conventional processors and will have some interesting results.. just like the Emotion engine did in the PS2.

Maybe I got it confused with Nintendo and XBOX (both ATI) probably what happened, I'm interrested in "the cell" also, Isn't it A ton of Microprocessors that work together?

Plus I'm very interrested to hear about how long PS3's last, PS1's and 2's have very bad technical problems, such as overheating and the famous "disk read error" I've even heard things about the PSP (such as the Analog Stick falling off, disk flying out(?!), and buttons being pressed and not comming back up) So Needless to say i'm in the "middle ground"

Im not going through 4 PS3's like I did PS2's, Not going to happen, no matter how great the games are. But this year's E3 will be REALLY interresting! And I'm hoping the new Zelda Shapes up to be everything that it looks like.


~EDIT:
It'd also be cool to see someone use the New Duel-Core 64 Processors, I have a 2.2(Oc'd) 64, Originally I had a 2.2ghz Throughbred (AMD 1700, I should've pushed it to 2.6 ><) but this thing Seriously schools games in a hard core way even at the same Speed, It's mathmatical calculations are fantastic! and the Onchip Memory controller helps a ton too! I REALLY want to see someone take advantage of that for a console.

 

[McLaren]

Maybe I got it confused with Nintendo and XBOX (both ATI) probably what happened, I'm interrested in "the cell" also, Isn't it A ton of Microprocessors that work together?

Plus I'm very interrested to hear about how long PS3's last, PS1's and 2's have very bad technical problems, such as overheating and the famous "disk read error" I've even heard things about the PSP (such as the Analog Stick falling off, disk flying out(?!), and buttons being pressed and not comming back up) So Needless to say i'm in the "middle ground"

Im not going through 4 PS3's like I did PS2's, Not going to happen, no matter how great the games are. But this year's E3 will be REALLY interresting! And I'm hoping the new Zelda Shapes up to be everything that it looks like.


~EDIT:
It'd also be cool to see someone use the New Duel-Core 64 Processors, I have a 2.2(Oc'd) 64, Originally I had a 2.2ghz Throughbred (AMD 1700, I should've pushed it to 2.6 ><) but this thing Seriously schools games in a hard core way even at the same Speed, It's mathmatical calculations are fantastic! and the Onchip Memory controller helps a ton too! I REALLY want to see someone take advantage of that for a console.

Like someone said before, I actually reported to GTP on the PS3 and nVidia deal. You may still be able to find it in the PS2 section.

 

[LFRANCOF483]

damn, i've been playing GT4 for like two weeks now.....and those demo vids that i saw from Forza had waay better graphics.....and i am biased towards GT, and have played GT4 in real life....so imagine what these graphics look like in real life (they always look better)

I especially like the effect of the damage, and going throught the tunnel, with the sun out.....i think this has a chance to be better than GT4

but like i said before......NO STREET BMW"S!!!!!!!

 

[McLaren]

I don't think its a full list. There's supposed to be a confirmation of the BMW Z4.
However, Forza's starting to look like racing sim, due to the giant selection of racing cars.

 

[ChristmasGTO]

not only giant, but seemingly well varied. not 40 of the same car, the list really does look pretty respectable