GT4 WRS Week 32 : "Sunset ride on James St."
- Thread starter Tedehur
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- 9,743
- Portland, OR
- Jump_Ace
- JUMPxACE
I found it rather difficult to try and keep this heavy @$$ car from hitting its rear fenders into the walls so I put tcs on 1. I have not noticed any drop in power, for this combo it helps IMO. Or at least makes it easier to put some laps in a row. I need only another .5 and I"ll submit my time. Perhaps I will try again on Sat.
EDIT: I also saw quite a few 28.1's but tossed in my full house on those laps...
so chop off .4 from my T2 and squeeze another .1 out of the other corners and I"ll be set.
Jerome
EDIT: I also saw quite a few 28.1's but tossed in my full house on those laps...
so chop off .4 from my T2 and squeeze another .1 out of the other corners and I"ll be set.Jerome
- 2,670
- Portland, OR
- GTP_KLR142
Heavy? It seems pretty light to me... Lighter than even a certain Volvo I know of...jump_aceI found it rather difficult to try and keep this heavy @$$ car from hitting its rear fenders into the walls so I put tcs on 1. I have not noticed any drop in power, for this combo it helps IMO. Or at least makes it easier to put some laps in a row. I need only another .5 and I"ll submit my time. Perhaps I will try again on Sat.
EDIT: I also saw quite a few 28.1's but tossed in my full house on those laps...
Jerome
Hopefully I won't be too tired in an hour(after I finish a movie), to go at it for a while and improve a few tenths...
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Kolyana
I feather the throttle in those areas until the tyres start gripping, then I punch it. Now for the LSD, I cannot use that. It makes the car very very to spin for me.
On another note, I was wondering something. Div1 guys, this is a question for you guys. Before you guys start posting insanely fast splits, how are your first laps? Are they fast as well or are they slow and you build up? I know for me that my beginner laps are at least 3-5 seconds slower than my best.
- 2,342
- Camboriu - Braz
- FASJ6418
bleurabbit7
my first T2 split was 1´11 i think... then 1´10, 1´09, some 1´08´s and finally some 1´07´s
about the LSD, i found it better to leave it stock. that´s right, even if you buy that full customize LSD, in the tuning screen, change to standard...
and go with no TCS, its always faster. remember that you can always control wheelspin with the gear ratios 👍
BTW, with insanely fast splits, you mean 1´06 right? but i decided to reply anyway 👍
- 1,111
- SHigSpeed
bleurabbit7
Hey Bleu,
Well, here's a tale of contrasts from the tail end (sorry Jerome) of D1, but D1 none-the-less...
Jerome has put 45 minutes into this event and has a T2 split of 1'07.884. Anything within the first hour of running should be considered your "first laps", right?
Me? I've got four and a half hours in, and MY T2 split is 1'08.078 (though my final time is a tenth under his
). I've dropped about 2 seconds from my time after about an hour, but with GT mode and suspension/tranny tuning, it takes longer to get up to speed. I THINK I've settled on a setup, but I'm never sure really!I've got a feeling that the real slim shadys from the top of D1 get similar times to my 5 hours splits after an hour or so if not less. Exhibit A is Zoky's D1 5th place lap at Motorland in 20 laps!
I REALLY need a lot of seat time to get past the middle of D1 though. I really don't think I would really even BE in D1 if not for a three week period there when I had a LOT of time (or maybe didn't HAVE it but I played anyway... very sleepy...) to bring times down. Had a fluke 2nd in my second week in D1, then I picked up a broom... :^)
I guess I really illustrate the monkey style of WRS... Just need to decide how many monkeys to throw at it any given week.
So far my associates have netted me:
T1 28.256
T2 1'08.078
Eeek out,
-SHig
- 900
- Devon
no clean yet, many laps with a single touch though,
1 hour in,
t1 - 28.2
t2 - 1.08.?
1 hour in,
t1 - 28.2
t2 - 1.08.?
- 616
hmmmm. Well, for me it depends on the event I guess. Most of the time I do 2 sessions for a WRS event max. A session being 2 hours max. More than 2 hours is usually a waste of time, as my concentration level degrades significantly after that. 
The exception was the event at the nurb. I wanted to finally learn the whole track so that I could start to become competitive there, so I spent a lot more time on that event.
But anyway, what I try to do for a new event is drive 10 laps in a row without restarting. I concentrate on the line and braking points exclusively, without worrying too much about overall speed. I try to identify the little "easter eggs" on the track that can cut some time, then try and put together a fastish lap that is clean and could be submitted if needed. So I guess that 3-5 seconds slower on the initial 10 laps is about right for some events, but probably more like 1-3 seconds most of the time. A lot depends on the track. If it's an old track like Seattle, I won't need to learn the track, so everything takes a lot less time to put it all together. Also, the options for setting up the Camaro are pretty limited as to what will work, so the setup didn't take much more than lifting the ride height a hair,softening up the bump and tweaking the tranny a little.
Usually after the first session, I will be very close to what I will submit. For example this week, I will probably do one more session, and might cut another .2 or .3 on the last sector, but I doubt I will get any more than that. From my first session tuesday night, at the end I was putting together laps that were all within .1-.2 of my current leaderboard time so that's probably at the limit of my abilities for the time I have available to play.
Having said all that, I know that I will never compete with some of the guys here just because they are simply better than me.
The exception was the event at the nurb. I wanted to finally learn the whole track so that I could start to become competitive there, so I spent a lot more time on that event.
But anyway, what I try to do for a new event is drive 10 laps in a row without restarting. I concentrate on the line and braking points exclusively, without worrying too much about overall speed. I try to identify the little "easter eggs" on the track that can cut some time, then try and put together a fastish lap that is clean and could be submitted if needed. So I guess that 3-5 seconds slower on the initial 10 laps is about right for some events, but probably more like 1-3 seconds most of the time. A lot depends on the track. If it's an old track like Seattle, I won't need to learn the track, so everything takes a lot less time to put it all together. Also, the options for setting up the Camaro are pretty limited as to what will work, so the setup didn't take much more than lifting the ride height a hair,softening up the bump and tweaking the tranny a little.
Usually after the first session, I will be very close to what I will submit. For example this week, I will probably do one more session, and might cut another .2 or .3 on the last sector, but I doubt I will get any more than that. From my first session tuesday night, at the end I was putting together laps that were all within .1-.2 of my current leaderboard time so that's probably at the limit of my abilities for the time I have available to play.
Having said all that, I know that I will never compete with some of the guys here just because they are simply better than me.
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Very interesting plan of attack MinorShunt. I think that may be a problem for me. As so as I crash or go off course, I restart. Now I understand why my T1 is always competitive and my T2 and finish start to slack off. It's because I don't run the laps.
Thanks for the info as well fasj6418 and SHigSpeed. My first laps started out at T2's in the high 1:11's and low 1:12's. And the fact that some of you guys are doing 1:06's, I grovel at your feet. I get there but it might take me a couple years.
Thanks for the info as well fasj6418 and SHigSpeed. My first laps started out at T2's in the high 1:11's and low 1:12's. And the fact that some of you guys are doing 1:06's, I grovel at your feet. I get there but it might take me a couple years.
- 9,743
- Portland, OR
- Jump_Ace
- JUMPxACE
Okay so I've been thinking about this combo all day so far. And the most critical part of the lap like last week is T1 (for me atleast). I have been debating on trying no tcs again, but I think before I do that I need more seat time. I tend to agree with Shunt, Dan and Francisco on their settings but I thought I'd be stubborn this week 
So I tried another hour last night with no overall improvement but more consistency. I put my tranny to auto 11 and stretched my final gear a LITTLE. I put my FC LSD at default as that helped on the strips I think and I tried Dan's suspension set up. They all worked fine, but I may try bumping up the front stabilizer to 4/4 and a few other tweaks here and there. I wish I had a better idea of what they all did rather than 'trial and error' o well. Its fun anyway!
jump_ace
So I tried another hour last night with no overall improvement but more consistency. I put my tranny to auto 11 and stretched my final gear a LITTLE. I put my FC LSD at default as that helped on the strips I think and I tried Dan's suspension set up. They all worked fine, but I may try bumping up the front stabilizer to 4/4 and a few other tweaks here and there. I wish I had a better idea of what they all did rather than 'trial and error' o well. Its fun anyway!jump_ace
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- Devon
all ive changed is gears so far,
t1 - 28.6 - seen 28.2 in previous sessions, dont now where the time has gone :S
t2 - 1.08.4
t1 - 28.6 - seen 28.2 in previous sessions, dont now where the time has gone :S
t2 - 1.08.4
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- 4,853
- Buffalo, NY
- PURE_DrWatson
finaly had a quick go at this...
i hate when the interior cam makes a V8 sound like a 1cyl mo-ped. :/
sounds ok from the outside though... stupid gt4 audio.
the styling of the concept is kinda strange too... looks like what would happen if a firebird and camaro had an illigitmate baby after getting drunk on budweiser at a tractor pull.
(since the front is classic 80's camaro, but the tail lights look very similar to what the firebirds were wearing at the time.)
Just to get me on the board i guess:
28.452
1'08.782
but i feel like i need to grow a mullett to fully come to terms with this car.
i hate when the interior cam makes a V8 sound like a 1cyl mo-ped. :/
sounds ok from the outside though... stupid gt4 audio.
the styling of the concept is kinda strange too... looks like what would happen if a firebird and camaro had an illigitmate baby after getting drunk on budweiser at a tractor pull.
(since the front is classic 80's camaro, but the tail lights look very similar to what the firebirds were wearing at the time.)
Just to get me on the board i guess:
28.452
1'08.782
but i feel like i need to grow a mullett to fully come to terms with this car.
- 964
- Coquitlam BC
0'27.476
1'05.911 ( lowest ive seen is 1'05.7xx )
think i lost .2 in this run
my usual routine when i have a session is...
- 5 laps with stick shifter ( for fun )
- x laps with the butterfly shifters
- .750 off top time within 15 laps
- keep goin at it till i reach it
as for the setup ~
- identical to Dan's, except i used the full diff. set at 20/60/20
1'05.911 ( lowest ive seen is 1'05.7xx )
think i lost .2 in this run
my usual routine when i have a session is...
- 5 laps with stick shifter ( for fun )
- x laps with the butterfly shifters
- .750 off top time within 15 laps
- keep goin at it till i reach it
as for the setup ~
- identical to Dan's, except i used the full diff. set at 20/60/20
- 891
Drew22
You should come to the Florida/Alabama line where they have the annual mullet toss. (The fish that is. I think it'd be hard to toss a redneck
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- Drew22
You mean the Redneck Riviera? Love Panama City beach. Boy did Alabama get scre**d on beachfront property, what do they have, about 3 miles.bleurabbit7You should come to the Florida/Alabama line where they have the annual mullet toss. (The fish that is. I think it'd be hard to toss a redneck
You should be up for promotion soon, you've been hittin it good lately, just go directly to Div. 1 ,I don't want anymore competition in Div. 2, I can barely keep my head above water now. The only thing I have going for me is I'm consistantly running 5th. to 10th. place. Just good enough to get some points each week.
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Drew22
3 miles. It's something like that. I stumbled upon the event by mistake. When I found out what it was, I couldn't stop laughing. People throwing fish for an annual event. I hate this place, lol. These people need to more with their lives.
I'm hoping for a promotion. I'm working my tail off to get it. But straight to Div1 will put me into shock and possibly a coma. Besides, I'd rather compare times with other drivers in my division vs. trying to close that 4 second gap between me and the second to last Div1 driver if you know what I mean.
- 1,575
- GTP_T13R
Phew, finally got an hour in this week to start on this combo. Splits are:
27.968 (seen 27.7)
1'07.275
I come really really close to the wall on the back straight, but in the analyzer I see no loss in speed. I'm running Holl's settings exact, no LSD.
Statistics for bleurabbit7
1st lap 33.x // 1'16.x
2nd lap 29.x // 1'11.x
3rd lap 29.x // 1'11.x
10th-15th lap: 28.8 - 29.0 // 1'08.8x - 1'09.1x average
After 45 mins, constantly in low 28 to high 27, and always in 1'07s ( I might be stuck there )
27.968 (seen 27.7)
1'07.275
I come really really close to the wall on the back straight, but in the analyzer I see no loss in speed. I'm running Holl's settings exact, no LSD.
Statistics for bleurabbit7
1st lap 33.x // 1'16.x
2nd lap 29.x // 1'11.x
3rd lap 29.x // 1'11.x
10th-15th lap: 28.8 - 29.0 // 1'08.8x - 1'09.1x average
After 45 mins, constantly in low 28 to high 27, and always in 1'07s ( I might be stuck there )
- 1,111
- SHigSpeed
hOt6o4bOi
Good heavens! That's fast... I second that diff setup. I'm using the exact same settings. Seems to tame the wheelspin a lot and allows better corner exit.
T1 27.895
T2 1'07.802
Had a dirty lap a tenth quicker, but my goal is at least 0.3" faster than this time.
-Scott
- 2,670
- Portland, OR
- GTP_KLR142
Uhm, yikes? I think I'll stick with this one. I figured out how to do the chicane thingy right before the S/F line earlier tonight, and I beat my previous first run's ghost at T2 by .3ish(for a 1'07.7xx), but had a lap that was almost .5 faster overall. My T1 for that lap was only 28.200, and there was a lot of sloppy/slow corners that I could easily see. I then took a tenth off of that with a lap that had me hitting walls and SLOWING me down in it... But anywho, I kept on going, and think I'm going to stop here. I had a fluke T1, and just played it decently safe, and decently fast(for me) around the rest of the track. Wow, here're the splits. Glad I don't have to play anymore this week!
T1: 27.646(took quite a close to the wall line through the turn after the hairpin... but no drop in speed in the analyzer, and a couple of inches clearance in the replay)
T2: 1'07.130
T3: 1'xx.xx3 (faster than I ever imagined... but then again, it had only been the first day I tried this week's challenge...)
Settings? Well, I tried Holl's, and they were ok, but they just didn't sound right to me in ways, and whatever, so I went back to the stock suspension, and actually used stock gearing and the stock LSD for my 1'07.7xx run! But eventually I went back to a version loosely based off of Holl's setup, one that made more sense to me for this track.
Suspension:
5.0/4.2
135/135
2/4
7/5
2.0/1.0
0/0
4/4
Brake balance 3/3
LSD 1.5
Gearing 2.5 final drive, 11 auto, lengthened 5th to 1.000(only used 3rd through 5th gear, no second gear turns)
Before I came up with this setup, I was set to stay with the stock suspension because I was so annoyed at how little adjustments that should do one thing DON'T in this version of GT, but we all know how that goes. Just really pisses me off... If I could've, I might have just run the stock suspension and added some swaybars, such as the nice feature that GT1 had available. Alas, no.
Yeah, I'm done for this week, w0000! Time being submitted, and good luck to you all!
T1: 27.646(took quite a close to the wall line through the turn after the hairpin... but no drop in speed in the analyzer, and a couple of inches clearance in the replay)
T2: 1'07.130
T3: 1'xx.xx3 (faster than I ever imagined... but then again, it had only been the first day I tried this week's challenge...)
Settings? Well, I tried Holl's, and they were ok, but they just didn't sound right to me in ways, and whatever, so I went back to the stock suspension, and actually used stock gearing and the stock LSD for my 1'07.7xx run! But eventually I went back to a version loosely based off of Holl's setup, one that made more sense to me for this track.
Suspension:
5.0/4.2
135/135
2/4
7/5
2.0/1.0
0/0
4/4
Brake balance 3/3
LSD 1.5
Gearing 2.5 final drive, 11 auto, lengthened 5th to 1.000(only used 3rd through 5th gear, no second gear turns)
Before I came up with this setup, I was set to stay with the stock suspension because I was so annoyed at how little adjustments that should do one thing DON'T in this version of GT, but we all know how that goes. Just really pisses me off... If I could've, I might have just run the stock suspension and added some swaybars, such as the nice feature that GT1 had available. Alas, no.
Yeah, I'm done for this week, w0000! Time being submitted, and good luck to you all!
- 4,853
- Buffalo, NY
- PURE_DrWatson
Gave it an honest effort today.
new splits:
27.868
1'07.028
and my settings, if anyone cares:
Suspension:
7.5 | 10.0
88 | 90
3 | 3
9 | 9
2.5 | 1.0
0 | -1
5 | 5
brake:
5 | 5
LSD:
stock
Trans:
auto 14 @ 3.23 final
takes the hill as uncle jesse intended... with lots of wooo hoo and zero loss of control
new splits:
27.868
1'07.028
and my settings, if anyone cares:
Suspension:
7.5 | 10.0
88 | 90
3 | 3
9 | 9
2.5 | 1.0
0 | -1
5 | 5
brake:
5 | 5
LSD:
stock
Trans:
auto 14 @ 3.23 final
takes the hill as uncle jesse intended... with lots of wooo hoo and zero loss of control
