GT4 WRS Week 35 : "Grand German V6 Valley"

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Thats a great kart...um kart...lol. Looks like its your own kart? I dont wanna know how much-yes I do how much does a kart cost u think? 2 grand? Nice to see ya around again 'teammate' u should fly up to Bobkarts this Feb dude, love to meetcha.

Jerome
 
ballstothewall
Anyone willing to share their methodology for the first sector?

I think i have the right lines for the second and third sectors, but need to be .3 faster in the first.

Neil
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Sure...
flat-out
So need I.
My technique so far is :
- hard braking just before 50m sign ;
- slightly turn right to drift and point the front end towards the curve exit ;
- back on the gas as soon as possible (120 km/h on the rumble at the outside) ;

That results in 19.3 only, but I the key is the speed at the start, not the way you take turn #1.

BTW, I hope you guys (and gals) take care of keeping 2 wheels on the tarmac or rumble strip. Those wide concrete areas behind the rumble strips are so tempting... but off track.
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Like that, for the hard braking just before the 50m sign anyway... I do NOT drift at all through there, that only hurts your time usually... Try to brake a LITTLE deep, so you get pushed out to the middle of the track or so, then get back on the gas LIGHTLY, so you can rotate and face the inside curbing, get back on the gas all the way, and swing as smoothly wide as you can around the exit. When I get that right, I can see 19.0xx for T1. This is in the A3, but I'm assuming it's quite similar in the other two cars.

Gearing makes a decent difference here too I'd assume... I usually try to make it around it in third gear, but sometimes I don't maintain enough speed(try to keep up 62+mph, but it's hard), and sometimes drop down to second(usually ending up in a 19.1xx or 19.2xx).

And I don't actually agree Cyril with your entry speed to the corner making that big of a difference... I can cross the S/F line at 148-152mph, and usually make it around all the same. Now if only I could make one of those 152mph ones get around there fast, and give me a 18.9xx at T1, and then finish it off with a 36.7 or 36.8, and FAST finish on the same lap, I'd be insanely happy... And done for the week. :)
 
Koly,

Not that it makes a difference, but you posted Kart's "I've seen" times as his official splits.

-SHig
 
jump_ace
Thats a great kart...um kart...lol. Looks like its your own kart? I dont wanna know how much-yes I do how much does a kart cost u think? 2 grand? Nice to see ya around again 'teammate' u should fly up to Bobkarts this Feb dude, love to meetcha.

Jerome
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Jump_,

The used but in immaculate condition Emmick Kid Kart (50 cc 2 stroke) that I bought for my 5 year old for Xmas was $900 and a killer deal. A competitive shifter kart is like $3000+. You can, though, find used ones to practice and play with for much less...

Anyone have one for sale in NorCal? :^)

-Scott
 
KLR142
I can cross the S/F line at 148-152mph, and usually make it around all the same. Now if only I could make one of those 152mph ones get around there fast, and give me a 18.9xx at T1, and then finish it off with a 36.7 or 36.8, and FAST finish on the same lap, I'd be insanely happy... And done for the week. :)
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You've seen 152 at the SFL in the A3? Wow... That's impressive... I think 151 is my fluke speed at the line...

-SHig
 
SHigSpeed
You've seen 152 at the SFL in the A3? Wow... That's impressive... I think 151 is my fluke speed at the line...

-SHig
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Yeah, I think ONCE. 151 is pretty doable as long as I go around the last turn fast, which happens once out of 20 times pretty much... I just sat down for a 15 minute session and I'm struggling still to be fast through T1, and then I can't be fast through the turn you have to drift around either. Argh. Shower, then another 45 minutes of racing, then work, then another 45 minutes of racing, then dinner, then other work, then more racing... Unless I find at .2 at the finish before all that... :dunce:
 
jump_ace
Thats a great kart...um kart...lol. Looks like its your own kart? I dont wanna know how much-yes I do how much does a kart cost u think? 2 grand? Nice to see ya around again 'teammate' u should fly up to Bobkarts this Feb dude, love to meetcha.

Jerome
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I live in South Africa dude.

The chassis cost 5 grand and the engine cost 3 grand. It is very fast and too expensive but it is what I love.

Ask hugo what it's like (when he visited S.A I gave him a go :-P)
 
kart.no.38
I live in South Africa dude.

The chassis cost 5 grand and the engine cost 3 grand. It is very fast and too expensive but it is what I love.

Ask hugo what it's like (when he visited S.A I gave him a go :-P)
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Oh, dang well maybe not then eh? 8,000 for a go kart!?!? *Whilstles* I ain't got that kind of $$$..heheh. Unless I become a gigolo again :sly:

Jerome
 
jump_ace
Oh, dang well maybe not then eh? 8,000 for a go kart!?!? *Whilstles* I ain't got that kind of $$$..heheh. Unless I become a gigolo again :sly:

Jerome
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So soes that mean you'll want your job back from me???

Anyway I'm done for this week, I bought Soul Calibur III on the weekend and am too addicted to it right now to try any more on this weeks race, I had a good finish, we'll see how my lap stacks up.

Laters 👍
 
I tuned the Golf up to 428 hp,
the replay shows 402 hp.
Can somebody confirm this.

BTW Great combo, 👍
 
Oye. Done! YAY!!! Didn't have to go to my first job today, so I've been playing the past 2.5 hours...

Shig, sorry for the scare, but 151 is my fluke number for the SFL as well, I thought I was going faster, but during the past stint, there's NO way I ever got near 152 there. I did have ONE lap today where I crossed the line at 151, and that one was so fast that it could've been 151.5+mph... I didn't know why I hit 160(or was it 161) before I stomped on the brakes, then I went back and watched the replay and almost shat myself.

So, tips for people who're going for the last few tenths, SMOOTHNESS, and USING THE RUMBLES on the exits. Which, should be the case every week of course, but, this week it seems to be either a little more important, or I just know the track so well that I actually know what I'm doing a bit more... Seriously though, even when I take a line that should have more speed on the exit, I seem to get another couple of horsepower when I use the rumbles on the exits. And I definitely don't mind an extra horsepower or two!

Finally found under 19 for T1, and here's what I think is my second or third fastest T2 time...
T1: 18.956
T2: 36.870
T3: closer to where it should be...

If I kept at it, and put down that perfect lap, I think I left another .1 or .15 in T2, and maybe .05-.1 in T3... I think I'll submit this though!

GREAT freaking racing this week. Thanks Cyril!

And, just so you know, I definitely put D1 effort into it this week(over 500 miles), but that's not something that I can do most of the time, and GV is one of my favorite tracks, and the A3 is one of my favorite cars, so don't take this as a, "ooh, Kyle's superfast, put him in D1!". Thanks... 👍
 
Didn't get much time last week to get far into testing, but after the last 1 and 1/2 hours, I've decided to stick w/the A3....

Got the car tuned pretty much where I like it...

Suspension:
Spring rate: 4.6/3.7
Ride Height: 90/92
Shock (Bound & Rebound) 8/8 (Respectively)
Camber: 2/1
toe 0/0
Stablizers: 6/6


However, I'm just not getting the right 'tuning' on the gear ratio...

Left everything stock except:
Final Gear: 3.000
Auto: 12

I feel like I'm leaving a lot of power untapped and I know it's hurting me, yet so far, I'm satisfied w/my times.

T1: 19.3
T2: 38.0


Know a sub 1min lap is possible from myself that is and know I'm not that far off! :sly: If I can't get closer today, then I'll be submitting my time up till the very end of the deadline tomorrow! :D
 
MisterWeary
So soes that mean you'll want your job back from me???

Anyway I'm done for this week, I bought Soul Calibur III on the weekend and am too addicted to it right now to try any more on this weeks race, I had a good finish, we'll see how my lap stacks up.

Laters 👍
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Please missah pimp Colby can I have my job back? LOL.

jump_ace
 
FWIW, I ended up running this setup:
Springs 11.3/9
Height 85/85
Bound 6/5
Rebound 8/9
Camber 2/1
Toe 0/0
Sways 4/4

Brakes 4/4, otherwise other stuff the same as I posted before.

Didn't bump up the LSD Decel after all, just because.

Did I say GREAT week yet? Thanks again Cyril! Just awesome. The fact that the top three cars on the leaderboard are all different just makes it even more awesome.
 
hey kart.38, i'd love to talk about karts with you
ive been thinking about getting a
CRG Road Rebel 125 chassis for 4300$ + Vortex ROK T.A.G Engine 3500$

im really commited to doing this, because i need to know if i can further my love for racing

8g's is a freakin down payment on a car man :( WHAT SHOULD I DO :crazy:
 
/\ :lol: :lol: :lol: Dont awaken the sleeping beast boyz.

jump_ace
 
i will have a go right now ~ is there a good setup for the A3 i can try out?

my time with the TT was all 4's on so thats why its slow i guess... but it didnt look like cutting would help that much

and as for OLR rules............. why cant they just be common sense rules...
haha my rules would look like this
~

2 wheel cutting only permitted on chicanes ~ unless the corner has the extra little concrete for a closer apex... realistic racing apex's...

4 wheels on track at all times ~ including wider runoff room.... realistic racing runoff, before the marshalls would black flag your asssssss

blah blah blah, no touches obviously... and no wild runups to the start/finish to start a lap


just common sense people :D


O AND OMG, haha i didnt have the spoiler installed :ill:
 
hOt6o4bOi
i will have a go right now ~ is there a good setup for the A3 i can try out?

my time with the TT was all 4's on so thats why its slow i guess... but it didnt look like cutting would help that much

and as for OLR rules............. why cant they just be common sense rules...
haha my rules would look like this
~

2 wheel cutting only permitted on chicanes ~ unless the corner has the extra little concrete for a closer apex... realistic racing apex's...

4 wheels on track at all times ~ including wider runoff room.... realistic racing runoff, before the marshalls would black flag your asssssss

blah blah blah, no touches obviously... and no wild runups to the start/finish to start a lap


just common sense people :D


O AND OMG, haha i didnt have the spoiler installed :ill:
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DAMMIT! There goes the neighborhood... Downforce is your friend!

Re: OLR rules...

Sure in the real world what you propose would probably be closer to reality, however I've been watching some of the greatest racing of the year on Speed Channel recently... The SCCA Runoffs. I've seen some crazy 2/3/4 wheel off, contact, questionable passing ettiquette, etc. It'd be too hard to regulate such a system if you ask me so we do what we can to make the best of it. My two cents...

-SHig
 
hOt6o4bOi
i will have a go right now ~ is there a good setup for the A3 i can try out?
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I don't think any of my setups were that bad...

What I started with:
LSD 5/5/5 5/5/5

Gearing, my custom version of the tranny trick: Move final to 4.700, move auto to 1, move final back to 3.000 and don't touch the auto again. Adjust initial final to wherever you need it to make it so you run out of whatever gear you want to end in(in this case, on the A3, 6th gear, I might do 5th on the Golf though, and I originally started out using 2nd through 5th on the A3 as well), and of course so that your gearing matches well enough with the course.

Downforce 30/30

VCD 10

Suspension basically, just bumped the shock's bound down to 6 and 5, 6 in the front to reduce dive, rebound is at 8/9, to reduce dive again, ride height is 86/85, also to try and keep the rear on the ground during braking, camber was started at 2.4, but that was too aggressive, so now I'm at 2.0/1.0, and I might get around to lowering that more, don't know if it'll help though. Sways are still 4/4, and toe is still 0/0.

Edit: Springs are 7.5/6.0. The same general tuning theory and settings almost(move front spring up a notch or two, but leave rear spring rate stock), and then the same settings elsewhere, and you should be in a pretty good game with the Golf as well. But, it'll exit slower if you leave it the same... Gotta tune in a little less understeer on the way out of those turns, these settings "should" only make that worse actually, assuming these cars act the way you'd think they would in real life when responding to tuning... Which they, sadly, don't really.
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What I ended up with:
Springs 11.3/9
Height 85/85
Bound 6/5
Rebound 8/9
Camber 2/1
Toe 0/0
Sways 4/4
Brakes 4/4
Other stuff the same

In your hands, either should be good enough for at least a 36.6xx at T2. I could see that if I went through everything my best, but of course, that's not easy...
 
Times submitted, haven't had any seat time for this one (bet nobody ever used that excuse before). Bottom of Div.2....again. Neil you burned me this week!!! Good job.
 
with the wing now

0'18.911 (-.050)
0'36.655 (-.125)
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x'xx.xxx ~ (-.275) if you use the extra space at the exit of the tunnel to turn

but this lap i did not do that, as long as the other drivers aint doing it... i wont
 
hOt6o4bOi
with the wing now

0'18.911 (-.050)
0'36.655 (-.125)
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x'xx.xxx ~ (-.275) if you use the extra space at the exit of the tunnel to turn

but this lap i did not do that, as long as the other drivers aint doing it... i wont
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You can do it, as long as at least two of your tires are touching the rumble strips... And that can and does mean either of your two tires. You know how it works... 👍
 
clock ran out on me...

T1 - 19´064
T2 - 36´804

finish ok, but i ended up 0´018 behind shig... that´s tough...

so i know i can´t win, hehe...

good combo, i still don´t know which car was the best... i played with the golf just because i love it...

bring on NOS week!!!
 
Time submitted - Thats the only way ill ever get any work done around here...

This was honestly one of the most fun WRS races ive ever done, I love it when there can be competition between different cars (and one isnt way better than the others).

Thanks for the setup help KLR, you moved me up quite a few places i would guess.

Great racing everybody! Good Luck!
 
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