GT4 WRS Week 4: "Mid-engine Multi-Lap Mayhem"

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finally found the most out of the track and put it together for 3 laps
heres first run of the day

2nd run proved to b better :)

Lap 1
T1 0:31.032----0:30.919
T2 1:00.880----1.00.560

Lap 2
T1 0:24.175----0:23.900
T2 0:53.991----0:53.528

Lap 3
T1 0:24.033----0:24.084
T2 0:53.652----0:53.629
 
Great combo. đź‘Ť

After 25 laps in free run and 2 racers I'm at:

31.807 - 1'02.594
25.124 - 0'55.494
25.182 - 0'56.037

Hope to improve a little over the weekend. :)
 
Questions:

The track is the asphalt and the curbs.

Drivers must only keep two wheels on the track, and it doesn't matter which two.

If a driver has two wheels on the track, it doesn't matter where the other two wheels are.

Correct?

What about the built-up areas of the track outside of some the curbs, that are not the large concrete patches that you have said are out of bounds if a driver gets all four wheels on them? Examples of these surfaces are on the left-hand side of the tunnel before T1, outside of the curb, and on the right-hand side adjacent to the Armco barrier at the right-hand bend after T1, and other places. These surfaces look like tan or light brown extensions of the curbing. What's the ruling on how many wheels you can get onto those surfaces?

Thanks.
 
Nuvolari
Questions:

What about the built-up areas of the track outside of some the curbs, that are not the large concrete patches that you have said are out of bounds if a driver gets all four wheels on them? Examples of these surfaces are on the left-hand side of the tunnel before T1, outside of the curb, and on the right-hand side adjacent to the Armco barrier at the right-hand bend after T1, and other places. These surfaces look like tan or light brown extensions of the curbing. What's the ruling on how many wheels you can get onto those surfaces?

Thanks.
That's ilegal:
"If there are no curbs limiting the track, the white borderline represents the limits of the track. "

I have just done my fastest time in this race and that would be my final time but after seeing the replay I've crossed that white line with a 3rd wheel while entering that tunnel(thoose were centimeters-checked in photo mode :grumpy: )
 
i ran this race once so far...i think this falls under the same category of why i don't like nurburgring as much as everybody else...just to long for me. I have a short attention span. I will give er a go later.
 
Nuvolari
Questions:

The track is the asphalt and the curbs.

Drivers must only keep two wheels on the track, and it doesn't matter which two.

If a driver has two wheels on the track, it doesn't matter where the other two wheels are.

Correct?

What about the built-up areas of the track outside of some the curbs, that are not the large concrete patches that you have said are out of bounds if a driver gets all four wheels on them? Examples of these surfaces are on the left-hand side of the tunnel before T1, outside of the curb, and on the right-hand side adjacent to the Armco barrier at the right-hand bend after T1, and other places. These surfaces look like tan or light brown extensions of the curbing. What's the ruling on how many wheels you can get onto those surfaces?

Thanks.


The better answer one can make is to direct you towards post #17 in this thread. Everything is explained with nice pics.
 
I finally got something decent enough to post in this thread

30.985/1'01.167
24.337/54.613
24.996/54.879

Still a lot more improvement I can do...
 
My T2 sucks frickin' balls!! I've yet to come close to 54's and my best T2 recorded so far was a 55.276... :yuck: :guilty:

At least my T1 is on par with most of the time posted here. đź‘Ť
 
flat-out
The better answer one can make is to direct you towards post #17 in this thread. Everything is explained with nice pics.

CFM's post #17 does not address this issue. I might refer you to #87 and to CFM's #88 reply to that post. If you check the photo in #87 you'll see all three types of surfaces; the asphalt, the red and white curb, and the other surface--- the one referred to in my question.

CFM's answer to that post is what caused me to pose the question. He says, "...as long as no more than two tires were off at one time, it's still legal". That sounded like a contradictory statement to his original rules announcement

I do apologize that I failed to alert CFM to the questions, at least so far, since I actually meant the questions to get his attention, and still allow members to see what his response was.

I'm sure it's no news to anyone that the rules sometimes get compromised, for whatever reasons, and posts #17 and #87 are examples of that.
 
Nuvolari
CFM's post #17 does not address this issue. I might refer you to #87 and to CFM's #88 reply to that post. If you check the photo in #87 you'll see all three types of surfaces; the asphalt, the red and white curb, and the other surface--- the one referred to in my question.

CFM's answer to that post is what caused me to pose the question. He says, "...as long as no more than two tires were off at one time, it's still legal". That sounded like a contradictory statement to his original rules announcement

I do apologize that I failed to alert CFM to the questions, at least so far, since I actually meant the questions to get his attention, and still allow members to see what his response was.

I'm sure it's no news to anyone that the rules sometimes get compromised, for whatever reasons, and posts #17 and #87 are examples of that.

As a postscript to this, if you look closely at the photo in #87, you'll see that the left front tire is outside of the red/white curb and resting on the undefined tan colored extra-curb surface that my question concerns. Whether or not the right rear tire is on the curb or this same surface is difficult to know for sure, but I would assume, in this case, CFM thinks it is. But for sure, both front tires are beyond the red/white curb.

So do you see the reason for my question?
 
If you look at CFM's 2nd Pitcure in #17, you will notice the 2 tires are ON that surface you ask about, and he has stated that is illiegal.

By that defination, they must be on the track or the rumbles. The part that is tanish brown, is off limits.
 
Great combo, CFM đź‘Ť đź‘Ť đź‘Ť

About that "unidentified surface" outside the rumble strips, they're cobblestone extentions. The same type of thing appears in various places around the Nurburgring, and that what the Nurburgring guide I've got calls them! Unidentified no more!! :D
 
hOt6o4bOi
finally found the most out of the track and put it together for 3 laps
heres first run of the day

2nd run proved to b better :)

Lap 1
T1 0:31.032----0:30.919
T2 1:00.880----1.00.560

Lap 2
T1 0:24.175----0:23.900
T2 0:53.991----0:53.528

Lap 3
T1 0:24.033----0:24.084
T2 0:53.652----0:53.629

Once again you blew my times away, stunningly consistent you are, top driving đź‘Ť

Got a few questions, what gear do u take the left just after T2 and the final long right hander? i take it in 3 and 2 respectively, but maybe i'm doing it wrong. from dan
 
Nuvolari
As a postscript to this, if you look closely at the photo in #87, you'll see that the left front tire is outside of the red/white curb and resting on the undefined tan colored extra-curb surface that my question concerns. Whether or not the right rear tire is on the curb or this same surface is difficult to know for sure, but I would assume, in this case, CFM thinks it is. But for sure, both front tires are beyond the red/white curb.

So do you see the reason for my question?
The text along with picture on post #87 says that both rear tires ARE on. That is why it is still legal. 2 tires are on even though both front tires are off.
Rules only say you must keep 2 tires on. Doesn't matter if it is 2 fronts, 2 rears, 2 right side or 2 left side. đź‘Ť
 
improved by .6 over total

30.737 / 1'00.345
24.419 / 54.336
24.305 / 54.158

Best 1st lap, but need to work on T1 for flying laps, once thats done i should improve by a good .5 - 1 second :)
 
The answer I gave for Kenny is based on assuming both rear tires were still on the track, as he said they were.

If the same situation occured as in Kenny's pic, but the right rear tire were off the track, and the left rear were on, then that would be an example of an illegal run, as then 3 tires would be off track. I hope you understand my description, Nuvolari.
 
Improved by 1.3 secs

T1 30.779
T2 1'00.669

T1 23.697 (don't ask!)
T2 53.240

T1 24.097
T2 53.798

theres still some improving but that second lap really helped my overall time. just gotta put it all together and i'll be happy!
 
holl01
Improved by 1.3 secs

T1 30.779
T2 1'00.669

T1 23.697 (don't ask!)
T2 53.240

T1 24.097
T2 53.798

theres still some improving but that second lap really helped my overall time. just gotta put it all together and i'll be happy!

awsome lap2, đź‘Ť ive gotten 23.697 too once, but couldnt hold it together
 
Well it looks as if I'll have something to do tomorrow night...yay..I like the combo but it seems a little difficult...

this is completely off subject but choose a Ram 1500 and put the difficulty at -10. Now ram into the opponents. Great fun. Your racing against Fiat 500R's L's and other small cars. You can push them around like its nothing. :)
 
My best clean set of laps so far -
T1 - 31.708
T2 - 1.03.079

T1 - 24.678
T2 - 55.273

T1 - 25.131
T2 - 56.181

Work in progress.

As usual some wicked times posted :drool:, well driven đź‘Ť .

Steve
 
bet my time by .2 with a more consistent run, and there was no repeat of that lap 2 i did!

T1 30.910
T2 100.656

T1 23.840
T2 53.548

T1 23.900
T2 53.507

Thats just about it for me for this one but i'll keep on trying maybe on the weekend, btw, i'm using the DS2 as a controller. any advice on gear selection hot604boi for the corners after T2? thanks, from dan
 
hey holl01,

im trying to remember exactly because i havn't played since earlier in the day.

but for the turn right after t2, i brake where the t2 timing line is and i shift down 1 gear soooooooo i think it is 2nd gear for both the turns your asking about.

3rd most of the braking untill i need to drop it to 2nd to slow it that x-tra little bit

why arent you using your DFP!!!! :odd:
 
We had a public holiday yesterday so I missed out on all the stuff going on here ... including the -10% weight drop ... so will have to start getting 3 laps together with that ...

Had my best 3 laps time already, but it's like 2 sec. slower than most be cause of the weight difference, will post my times in 24 hours or so ...
 
hOt6o4bOi
hey holl01,

im trying to remember exactly because i havn't played since earlier in the day.

but for the turn right after t2, i brake where the t2 timing line is and i shift down 1 gear soooooooo i think it is 2nd gear for both the turns your asking about.

3rd most of the braking untill i need to drop it to 2nd to slow it that x-tra little bit

why arent you using your DFP!!!! :odd:

I tried the dfp on this race for couple of hours but wasn't really getting anywhere, i was stuffing up the first corner too much, sometimes its better (for me) with the DS2, it gives you more control, i'm gonna have another run right now, just got back from uni. i'll see if i can improve my time and i'll also try it again with the DFP.

Speaking of DFP, what settings do you have it on, strenghth wise, and i presume you have all the steering assists turned off, yeah? and do u change gears with the stick or the paddles on the wheel? what else is there to ask, hmmm, thats about it. later
 
Schtick schtick schtick, always play with your schtick!!!

Dammit why use anything else, the only time a paddle should be used is when your in a boat, or Juan Pablo's McLaren.

Im getting 23.9's for T1, yay, im competing!

We'll see if i can post though, the boss is talking about removing our internet connections..... something to do with it being abused....
 
sorry to hear that. vexd

i shift with paddles, or the stick if its too hard for paddles, dont get me started, the STICK IS ON the WRONG side.

My settings are strong force feedback. Power assit on, steering assist off.
 
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