GT5 Latest News & Discussion

[McLaren]

Looks like "the definitive racing game of this generation" is in real danger now, huh
It's so pathetic, instead of just accepting GT5 as a (better) game Microsoft does everything to hold back GT5's success. Why don't they just focus on making Forza 4 better than GT5? I'm so glad that Forza Fans aren't stupid enough to support this "Ultimate Edition" BS, T10 and Mircrosoft have to learn that it's not just about making money.

These actions are among the reasons I despise Micro$oft and their tactics with the xBox360. It's not about games at all. It's about beating Sony! Just like the pc side is just about beating the superior product Apple offers. They're like leeches!!!

1) MS doing this is a legit business tactic. It's been a common thing for years to try & re-release products out the door to try to soften your opponents' sales. The way MS executed this though, is what backfired.

2) If you think Sony isn't about money, get into a business class 101 now. Sony has done stuff like this in the past with other products. MS is just more aggressive & it obviously works if they remain as one of the biggest companies in the world.

 

[Feschka]

"gamers will be treated to 90 minutes of edited Top Gear shows"

How can they stoop so low?

 

[Sele1981]

EPIC News haha! Classic Microsoft own goal... But anyway, this mega hardcore FM fans will buy it anyway... They close their eyes and ears and see and hear only what they want... Ignoring every video or info about GT5...

I know such people from other forums, so I know this...

 

[Anes]

I don't care what other people do tbh. I just want my copy of GT5 and I'll never be seen again.

 

[patriotzero]

We scared of Forza ultimate collection alot. Really.

 

[DingoDile]

Also, an interesting tidbit on GT5 from Jordan: The Review embargo will be lifted on October 28th.

It`s too late Forza 3 review embargo was 19 days before its us release !

 

[blaktek]

1) MS doing this is a legit business tactic. It's been a common thing for years to try & re-release products out the door to try to soften your opponents' sales. The way MS executed this though, is what backfired.

2) If you think Sony isn't about money, get into a business class 101 now. Sony has done stuff like this in the past with other products. MS is just more aggressive & it obviously works if they remain as one of the biggest companies in the world.

Unless you have MS stock somewhere, you can't be serious about that statement. We are consumers here, and we happen to react badly to bull$%µ.

Being in the business for the dough is one thing. Coercing your consumers in rebuying a year old product (that some have paid double price for) is another thing altogether.

Now, consumers tend to be a stupid entity that will gladly pay up for an unfinished product, then pay again for things what should have been included in the first place (effectively doubling the product's price). It is despicable yet acceptable for companies to exploit the stupid among us.

I think the line should be drawn when blood is pouring out of your A%ùµ. And that last MS move IS quite bloody.

 

[PAPPACLART]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPDs-wscHzM

 

[Pie 'n' Peas]

I woke up a few minutes ago with one of the best news ever

Seriously.... copy of GTTV, SLS AMG, LFA, all a few days before GT5's launch. Hopefully the majority of forza fans won't get it

The sad thing is people taking pleasure in such news like they have some personal stake in the relative success of GT5...

Honestly, the number of people gloating over how Forza fans will do this and do that, ignoring GT5 etc is truly pathetic. You are just as bad yourselves, acting like a childish GT fanboys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPDs-wscHzM

Some nice reflections in the screen at least near the start if nothing else!

 

[Metalmurphy]

1) MS doing this is a legit business tactic. It's been a common thing for years to try & re-release products out the door to try to soften your opponents' sales. The way MS executed this though, is what backfired.

2) If you think Sony isn't about money, get into a business class 101 now. Sony has done stuff like this in the past with other products. MS is just more aggressive & it obviously works if they remain as one of the biggest companies in the world.

It's not because of their game division, and not because of these "tactics" either...

 

[profi]

How exactly would you want it to work? If it was always real time then you would NEVER see a change unless you raced for more then 3 or 4 hours. Might as well not be dynamic that way...

(Post regarding the postion of the sun "day-night-cycles)
I want it real-time. Anything else would be "arcadish"...
If one wants to see the sun go down then he has to spend at least 30 minutes of driving. Also I think we can set the time of day for (most) tracks wer'e racing on ?

Something tells me that you get a big warehouse to store your cars and that you can upgrade your warehouse as you go. That or you can purchase newer, bigger, better garages as you go.

I also think it will be like this. (at least I hope it will be...)
The size of those garages is an indication that we will store our cars inside them. All of them. Imagine how awesome it will be (virtually) walking around and pick one of your cars.

If anybody wants to request something they want to see in the demo let me know I will try to deliver. 👍

Would like to see you going down the "Döttinger Höhe" (the long straight on Nürburgring) at full speed and then apply your handbrake. Lets see how (real) the car spins until it stops ?

Why don't they just focus on making Forza 4 better than GT5? I'm so glad that Forza Fans aren't stupid enough to support this "Ultimate Edition" BS, T10 and Mircrosoft have to learn that it's not just about making money.

Because... UNABLE.

They could try, but they would fail, and MS know this.
Polyphony Digital have more game-making talent in one finger than T10 have in their entire staff. Even if they were to take 10 years on the next Forza game, it still wouldn't be as good as GT.

Compared to T10, PD are just too damn talented.

Exactly....
(I always worry about KAZ driving real-life races... If he will be injured or die in in a race... What will happen to GranTurismo in the future then ?)

EPIC News haha! Classic Microsoft own goal... But anyway, this mega hardcore FM fans will buy it anyway... They close their eyes and ears and see and hear only what they want... Ignoring every video or info about GT5...

I know such people from other forums, so I know this...

Right. Same behaviour as F1 2010 Fanboys...

I got a chance to play the demo so here are my impressions.

Oct 6
I asked the Game Stop guy was there going to be a midnight release and he said yea. Then out of nowhere he asked me did I want to play the GT5 Demo. I was hyped I told him hell yea. I was on it for 30 min man it was so damn good. So much Better than GT5P. The sense of speed and cockpit vibration/camera vibration is immersible.

I was so amazed by how the cars felt on the track Its so different from GT5P. I told another member that, the controller did not have vibration and still controlled the car easily. Not to sound stupid but when you turn it feels so damn real like your really turning. I felt the TT demo was to harsh for DS3 users however this not the case for GT5 demo. This connection is very good so I can imagine how spoiled wheel users will be. 👍


Oct 7
I have been playing GT5P heavy for the past weeks so when I played the GT5 demo The sense of speed was so much better. It just felt smoother man, and I think thats why It felt so fast. When your in your car you can feel the car get faster and faster as the engine revs up in RPM. Very different from GT5P. I told other members before, the Ring is serious man I couldn't believe how nervous I was. I was in the Stingray flying saying to my self "Damn I have to slow down." From the cockpit shaking from the bumps on the track it is very hard to stay focus on your line. Racing online on this track is going to be epic trust me. Also the track elevation changes are very noticeable, unlike in GT5P. PD did a excellent Job making the gamer feel as if they are really driving up hill/down hill.


After experience the physics I have to say I am very glad PD decided to put those 800 standard cars in the game. Yes I wish they where all premium and had cockpit views, but what i'm really happy about is how damn good the game felt. The driving experience we will get with these 1000 cars is going to be tons of fun for years.

Thank you so much for comparing the demo to GT5 Prologue JDMKING13.

Although I did like the physics of the TT very much I understand that they will be even better in the final release.

I have to say that by driving GT5P recently I did NOT like these physics anymore. (Especially since I drove TT in December 2009)

For me Racing games are all about the "driving feel" / immersion. So reading about your impressions I have good hopes that GT5 will be... just... awesome.

 

[Metalmurphy]

(Post regarding the postion of the sun "day-night-cycles)
I want it real-time. Anything else would be "arcadish"...
If one wants to see the sun go down then he has to spend at least 30 minutes of driving.

Like I said, if you want it real-time then do 24 hour races. If you don't wanna do 24 hour races then set it to static. GTR handles it the same way, I wouldn't consider that to be arcadish would you?

Also I think we can set the time of day for (most) tracks wer'e racing on ?

You can on the track creator, you'll most likely be able to do it for custom races/online as well.

 

[trk29]

So, I know there has been no official word that GT5 supports the Logitech G27 wheel. I am aware that GT5P supported it by pressing triangle (I think) before the race and have seen the video of the French guy with the working shift lights, but still no word on it working fully in the final game.

Well, I was listening to the latest GameSpot UK podcast (Thursday 8th) tonight and the guy that was interning with them said he had been testing GT5 this week. He went on to say that he had been playing it on a set up with a G27 and that it was amazing! That's all he said, there was no details at all on GT5, due to an embargo I guess, but hopefully this goes some way to confirming full support for the G27.

There was a video posted of the shift lights working on the G27 so that is a plus. I know I want the clutch to work without pressing the triangle.

 

[NINE_HUNDRED]

Brief cockpit view gameplay from the Ford MkIV. (horrible driving, also language warning) [skip to 1:01]
http://www.destructoid.com/nycc-nick-chester-sucks-at-gran-turismo-5-185982.phtml

Also looks like Turn10's attempt to get last minute sales before GT5 hits shelves may have backfired on them:
http://gamer.blorge.com/2010/10/05/...rosofts-ploy-to-cushion-gran-turismo-5-sales/

"# Barnabe Jones:
October 5th, 2010

For… za?

Never heard of it. Is it a Halo themed Kart racer, or something?"

This comment made me laugh 👍

 

[hardvibes]

The sad thing is people taking pleasure in such news like they have some personal stake in the relative success of GT5...

The sad thing is you're not laughning
After the arrogance of Greenawalt this is the least that could happen to them.

 

[recca]

The sad thing is you're not laughning
After the arrogance of Greenawalt this is the least that could happen to them.

and i quote

"We watched the Sony press conference and we were like, OK so we just brought what we believe firmly is the best racing game ever made, and our competition didn’t show up. So now you can see why I’m fairly bullish. I hate to sound so cocky but the truth is the stars have aligned. I don’t know how else to say it."

“That said, as a fan of the series, he hasn’t done anything for me in years. So in many ways he’s handing the baton to me. He probably doesn’t see it that way, but I do, because I believe that I’m now taking what he ignited in me as a passion, and taking it to a much, much, much broader level. I’m not saying it’s necessarily larger yet, but definitely broader, younger, older, men, women. So I’m really excited.”


It's understandable to show your pride and market your product but do you have to make yourself sound so arrogant and childish???

 

[Pie 'n' Peas]

The sad thing is you're not laughning
After the arrogance of Greenawalt this is the least that could happen to them.

I see, using my initial line of response back at me...very original

No, I'm not laughing. All I see here are childish little kids having a laugh and a joke at Microsoft and Forza fans, conveniently ignoring the fact that they themselves are acting like pathetic SONY and GT5 fanboys.

Who the hell cares what Microsoft release and why? So they upset a few fans by releasing a game with a few exclusive cars. **** happens, they can deal with it I'm sure. Things get upgraded and updated all the time, and you either buy into it, or you don't. If you choose to be an early adopter and lose out because of that, tough. That's life, and laughing and joking at their expense is ridiculous. What impact does this have on you and your purchase decision regarding GT5? None, but it makes you feel good, right?

 

[analog]

and i quote

"We watched the Sony press conference and we were like, OK so we just brought what we believe firmly is the best racing game ever made, and our competition didn’t show up. So now you can see why I’m fairly bullish. I hate to sound so cocky but the truth is the stars have aligned. I don’t know how else to say it."

“That said, as a fan of the series, he hasn’t done anything for me in years. So in many ways he’s handing the baton to me. He probably doesn’t see it that way, but I do, because I believe that I’m now taking what he ignited in me as a passion, and taking it to a much, much, much broader level. I’m not saying it’s necessarily larger yet, but definitely broader, younger, older, men, women. So I’m really excited.”

It's understandable to show your pride and market your product but do you have to make yourself sound so arrogant and childish???

First of all, I want to make clear I haven't actually played a Forza game and therefore I haven't got a well formed opinion about it apart from the impressions I gather on this forum.
Having said that, ofcourse that sounds rather arrogant and childish, and to be fair to him he did apologize beforehand for what he was about to say, but what did you expect him to say, well we can ofcourse never achieve anything near GT and will always play catch up and be second rate next to it?
Ofcourse not, it was perhaps as much an exaggerated sales pitch spurred by enthusiastic of the moment excitement to be taken with a huge grain of salt as Kaz's opposite approach of downplaying the competition and claiming he hasn't actually played it ( which I somehow have a hard time believing ) whenever Forza is mentioned.
The approach Kaz seems to take is perhaps much more clever and won't be hold against him that easy as those remarks made by Greenawalt, that doesn't mean however they therefore are the truth.
Marketing tactics or strategy, spin, spin, spin ( don't fall into the trap of believing each one of them ).

 

[TouringDevotee]

I wonder if this Forza fiasco would come across as so terrible, if people were actually allowed/able to resell their game and its DLC. It would still be a shame, but at least less of a blow.

DLC really is showing itself to be a waste of good money; you get less content for your money, and it is an asset that cannot be liquidized.

 

[Pie 'n' Peas]

DLC really is showing itself to be a waste of good money; you get less content for your money, and it is an asset that cannot be liquidized.

Fair enough comment, but you know what they say...if you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that really. I never could understand people moaning at the price/value of DLC like they are forced to buy it.

 

[Slurm]

It's pretty simple to understand really. You are a loyal customer buying a product. Then the maker of said product changes the distribution to extract more money from you, for less content.

I'm a believer in capitalism though: Uncompetitive or unfair pricing will eventually fall to someone offering better value. In this case, PD have expanded Prologue greatly for no extra cost at all. They've been pretty good to us so far, so what reason is there to expect money-grabbing tactics from them future?

 

[Max911]

First of all, I want to make clear I haven't actually played a Forza game and therefore I haven't got a well formed opinion about it apart from the impressions I gather on this forum.
Having said that, ofcourse that sounds rather arrogant and childish, and to be fair to him he did apologize beforehand for what he was about to say, but what did you expect him to say, well we can ofcourse never achieve anything near GT and will always play catch up and be second rate next to it?
Ofcourse not, it was perhaps as much an exaggerated sales pitch spurred by enthusiastic of the moment excitement to be taken with a huge grain of salt as Kaz's opposite approach of downplaying the competition and claiming he hasn't actually played it ( which I somehow have a hard time believing ) whenever Forza is mentioned.
The approach Kaz seems to take is perhaps much more clever and won't be hold against him that easy as those remarks made by Greenawalt, that doesn't mean however they therefore are the truth.
Marketing tactics or strategy, spin, spin, spin ( don't fall into the trap of believing each one of them ).

You should try Forza 3, though. It's a really good racing game. I know for sure that the sounds are way better in Forza than GT at the moment. And the customization is a really great feature not to mention the livery editor.

That coming from a GT fanboy. Well I guess It'd be pointless since GT5 is coming out soon and will be better in almost every way no doubt.

 

[trk29]

It's pretty simple to understand really. You are a loyal customer buying a product. Then the maker of said product changes the distribution to extract more money from you, for less content.

I'm a believer in capitalism though: Uncompetitive or unfair pricing will eventually fall to someone offering better value. In this case, PD have expanded Prologue greatly for no extra cost at all. They've been pretty good to us so far, so what reason is there to expect money-grabbing tactics from them future?

I would say there are no tactics but DLC usually costs and I would think that they felt obligated to give us stuff for free with prologue because it was "a prologue". Now with GT5 I bet there will be some sort of DLC, I wouldn't think it would be tracks unless they give us more themes for the track creator or maybe a couple of car packs.

 

[TouringDevotee]

Fair enough comment, but you know what they say...if you don't like it, don't buy it. Simple as that really. I never could understand people moaning at the price/value of DLC like they are forced to buy it.

We "people" complain of a great many things, though I'd hardly consider a complaint to be moaning. However, if someone was moaning, I don't think I'd smack him with a stick.

Regardless, I'd much rather my distaste be heard, than keep my mouth shut and be shafted, over and over again, by a corporate entity given rights of incorporation by a government said to be representing me. Making money is one thing, but don't ask a government for tax breaks when you plan on making that money at the expense of the people. Honestly, we've turned the right to make money into some excuse for lacking any social responsibility.

Yes I don't have to buy it, but then, I don't have to be shafted either; I'll use my "moaning" as I see fit.

 

[Slurm]

I would say there are no tactics but DLC usually costs and I would think that they felt obligated to give us stuff for free with prologue because it was "a prologue".

Yes but that's exactly what I mean. PD feeling obligated to update a game it has already sold, for no extra cost shows that it values and has some respect for it's customers. There are fans of Forza who've already spent hundreds on FM3, and even they are getting no respect. Microsoft or Turn 10, or whoever is responsible for the pricing / distribution strategies of Forza obviously has no respect for even their most loyal customers. I'm not trying to claim that PD have doubled Prologue's car count for free because they're such a loving, generous company. But they have have a much more respectful strategy and attitude towards their customers, which pays off for them in the long term, financially, and in many less tangible ways.

re. the "moaning" vs. "just don't buy it" thing: If you like a product, you have a right to be annoyed when the maker decides to take advantage of your custom.

 

[Neal]

We "people" complain of a great many things, though I'd hardly consider a complaint to be moaning. However, if someone was moaning, I don't think I'd smack him with a stick.

Regardless, I'd much rather my distaste be heard, than keep my mouth shut and be shafted, over and over again, by a corporate entity given rights of incorporation by a government said to be representing me. Making money is one thing, but don't ask a government for tax breaks when you plan on making that money at the expense of the people. Honestly, we've turned the right to make money into some excuse for lacking any social responsibility.

Yes I don't have to buy it, but then, I don't have to be shafted either; I'll use my "moaning" as I see fit.

He's already been banned so no point replying to his posts. Judging by the liberal use of I'd say it was tokyodrift trying to come back for the umpteenth time!

 

[TouringDevotee]

He's already been banned so no point replying to his posts. Judging by the liberal use of I'd say it was tokyodrift trying to come back for the umpteenth time!

...I don't think I've ever had someone banned while I was busy typing up a reply.

"TokyoDrift. Cake or Death?" Sorry, it's a very "Izzard" morning around the house.

 

[shadynader]

He's already been banned so no point replying to his posts. Judging by the liberal use of I'd say it was tokyodrift trying to come back for the umpteenth time!

I thought that aswell Neal, I think that's his 3rd or 4th ban.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=4046821#post4046821

I don't know if I grassed him up like. I hope not because you know what happens to grasses round our neck of the woods.

 

[XEPEGTP]

I see, using my initial line of response back at me...very original

No, I'm not laughing. All I see here are childish little kids having a laugh and a joke at Microsoft and Forza fans, conveniently ignoring the fact that they themselves are acting like pathetic SONY and GT5 fanboys.

That's life, and laughing and joking at their expense is ridiculous.

Bro, theres a world out there, of which 99.9999% do not give wet manure about A) video games B) GT and C) you and us.

All this totally inconsequential and does not matter, you dont matter we dont matter they dont matter.

But I'll give you one tip, theres better ways of getting attention.

 

[analog]

You should try Forza 3, though. It's a really good racing game. I know for sure that the sounds are way better in Forza than GT at the moment. And the customization is a really great feature not to mention the livery editor.

That coming from a GT fanboy. Well I guess It'd be pointless since GT5 is coming out soon and will be better in almost every way no doubt.

Oh I'm sure there will be things I like and dislike about Forza but that wasn't the point I was trying to make ( I just never got the opportunity to play it as I don't know any people who actually own an X-Box and a copy, although neither do I know many people who own a PS3 ).
Was just trying to make clear that this whole "console war" and specifically the one aspect focussing on these 2 games may actually play in the hands of both Sony and Microsoft ( or PD and T10 ).

The fact competition exists at all can only be a good thing from the perpective of consumers on either 'sides' as there's a choice and both products have to compete and therefore are forced to become better products in the process.

This whole "console war" thing ( regardless of who started it ) and the way "fanboys" or "fangirls" ( do they even exist or is it purely an immature boy-thing? ) defend their choice comes in handy for the manufacturers themselves after the choice is made for either console or game to create brand-loyalty free of charge as picking one side of the war and being outspoken about it 'forces' people to stick with it and possibly cloud their judgement.

The main reason I've got a PS3 ( and previous gen iterations ) was the fact GT was a Playstation exclusive as most other games I play are multi-platform and although I've been playing GT since 1998 and can see and appreciate the impact and importance it has played in the racing/driving genre, for a new generation this might not be obvious or play a role in deciding which title they choose and the fact an X-Box is cheaper may play a large role too.

And although I don't get an allergic reaction or develop Tourette-syndrom each time the name Forza is mentioned, I do find it rather curious and funny it comes up so much in the GT5 section of this forum.
What this tells about us as a collective I don't know, and again this isn't meant snobbish in any way, but with a few weeks left to release the game most of us are waiting for at this point I simply don't care or notice what the competition is doing ( and perhaps unlike Kaz, I do mean it as I haven't got anything to lose or gain by saying it ).