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[kikie]

That's because weak games need strong PR, AND, TDU2 has nothing to hide unlike GT5. I bet right now Turn10 are dying to know what GT5 will feature, and I bet that this is one of the main reasons it is so quiet about the game right now.

Well, that's simple actually.

• PSeye as a tracking device and not only head tracking but also hand tracking. If you want to switch something off on the virtual dashboard, you can move your hand and the driver (ingame) will react and will do what you do with your hand.
• 3D stereoscopic
• Realistic and real time damage.

 

[fasj6418]

Indeed it is.

About the person that made the comment, that is. The article is about GT Academy winning drivers Lucas Ordonez (2008) and Jordan Tresson (2010) in the first race of the European GT4 Cup season at Silverstone, driving for RJN Motorsport in their Nissan 350Z (Lucas) and 370Z (Jordan and codriver Alex Buncombe).

What do Lucas, Jordan and Alex have to do with the release schedule of GT5? What do Nissan have to do with the release schedule of GT5? What do RJN Motorsport have to do with the release schedule of GT5? What does Silverstone have to do with the release schedule of GT5? What, even, does GT Academy have to do with the release schedule of GT5?

That's right - nothing at all. So why post about the release schedule of GT5 in this news story? Can't bring yourself to be happy for Lucas and Jordan? Can't think of anything to say about the actual story? Hey, here's a thought, Sebastien Loeb plays GT - why not spam WRC boards with "Release the damn game"? Jarno Trulli plays GT - why not spam F1 boards with "Release the damn game"? After all, they have as much to do with the release schedule of GT5 - they played a previous version once.


It borders on attention-seeking stupidity.

I understand your point about giving Lucas and Jordan proper attention (the article was about them), and spamming is not good, however, i can't see how a GT Academy news is not related to GT5.

It even has GT5 tags on it. GT academy only exists because of GT games, and the first two editions were part of the marketing for the upcoming title. So while the focus of the story was about the silverstone race, it does have something to do with Gran Turismo.

I might not agree with the methods, but it's pretty much a garantee to have people talking about GT5 on a GT Academy post.

 

[eSZee]

I understand your point about giving Lucas and Jordan proper attention (the article was about them), and spamming is not good, however, i can't see how a GT Academy news is not related to GT5.

It even has GT5 tags on it. GT academy only exists because of GT games, and the first two editions were part of the marketing for the upcoming title. So while the focus of the story was about the silverstone race, it does have something to do with Gran Turismo.

I might not agree with the methods, but it's pretty much a garantee to have people talking about GT5 on a GT Academy post.

GT academy has it's own forum, does it not? That forum is updated with news about the Academy drivers. So why post it here when it is irrelevant to the game and has it's own space on the forums?

 

[IsmokeGT]

It is hard to see why someone would say "release the damn game" right after the 90% complete line is getting thrown around a lot, again.

 

[fasj6418]

GT academy has it's own forum, does it not? That forum is updated with news about the Academy drivers. So why post it here when it is irrelevant to the game and has it's own space on the forums?

No, that wasn't about posting it here, it was about users comenting on a post that Sony made on their blog.

Sony makes a GT Academy post on their blog, and i think it's expected to have people asking about GT5 on the comments section, overshadowing the actors of the article.

 

[speedfreak69]

TDU2 was announced a few weeks ago, right? It has been in production for what 2-3 years? It's coming out this fall, right? So we finally get some info 5-6 months before the game is released, 2-3 years after it began it's "life", right? And that means great PR, according to you?
So PD PR sucks because they didn't wait til 6 months before release and instead released things from pretty much the beginning of development til the almost very end? Prologues, demos, time trials, videos, screens, feature lists were all pointless?
You're obviously angry with PD and anything different anyone else does is great, while anything PD does is simply wrong, correct?

You missed the point. It's about having relations and listening to community(which is made of biggest fans, including me), and then reacting.
PD doesn't seem to understand that concept, and that's why the great majority of the posts, specially lately, are written in a disappointing/frustrating tone...

 

[eSZee]

You actually believe the only reason they're releasing a new trailer is because the fans asked for it?
From what I read about the trailer, many complained about how poor it looked. Sounds to me more like they're giving us a new one cause the first one didn't achieve what they expected.

 

[Famine]

I understand your point about giving Lucas and Jordan proper attention (the article was about them), and spamming is not good, however, i can't see how a GT Academy news is not related to GT5.

Because it's nothing to do with GT5. Nothing that occurs at GT Academy has any effect on GT5 and vice versa.

GT academy only exists because of GT games, and the first two editions were part of the marketing for the upcoming title. So while the focus of the story was about the silverstone race, it does have something to do with Gran Turismo.

Of course. GT Academy = Gran Turismo Academy. It's still nothing to do with GT5.

I might not agree with the methods, but it's pretty much a garantee to have people talking about GT5 on a GT Academy post.

Yes, it's a guarantee. But GT Academy is unrelated to GT5.

 

[Feschka]

May I yawn?

 

[Griffith500]

That's because weak games need strong PR, AND, TDU2 has nothing to hide unlike GT5. I bet right now Turn10 are dying to know what GT5 will feature, and I bet that this is one of the main reasons it is so quiet about the game right now.

Almost certainly. Turn10 aped the formula quite effectively, and duplicated it further whilst building on it at quite the rate of knots. I'd be wary about somebody reverse engineering my product with the aim of simply getting it to the market first.

Hey, another chance for me to post this link:
http://kotaku.com/5456500/one-of-these-games-is-the-new-duke-nukem-forever
...

That was a fun read! I've been anxiously waiting for Black Mesa for some time now Still, I agree that only LA Noire really counts as a possible Duke Forever - all the others will appear, or simply are "small-time" by comparison - Duke was set to be the 🤬

Another lame intention by Kotaku author to do some math with Yamauchi's figurative percents =)

I know, it's like they think the "percentage-done" figures can be linearly extrapolated with respect to time... Except that it's (ideally) a measure of man-hours of work done, and there is such a thing as parallel / serial tasks within a project. Inevitably people are going to be twiddling their thumbs at some point, unless they are given work on something else (GTPSP - prototypes for the next installment, etc.)

I wouldn't be surprised if one of these prototypes threw up something interesting, and it's this they're trying to shoehorn in before release - especially if it's a big technical leap that'll give them headroom for more "features"...

 

[Bandit6]

Because it's nothing to do with GT5. Nothing that occurs at GT Academy has any effect on GT5 and vice versa.


Of course. GT Academy = Gran Turismo Academy. It's still nothing to do with GT5.


Yes, it's a guarantee. But GT Academy is unrelated to GT5.

But the GT Academy TT gave us a taste of the new physics from GT5. So there is a relation in that regard. But I hear what you are saying in regards to the actual finals (real cars), winners and the racing series.

 

[Owen.C93]

But the GT Academy TT gave us a taste of the new physics from GT5. So there is a relation in that regard. But I hear what you are saying in regards to the actual finals (real cars), winners and the racing series.

GT academy is former players racing around in Nissans. The time trial may of taken a small amount of time to make, but anything after the day it finished has no effect on the GT5.

 

[IsmokeGT]

Hydrogen has nothing to do with water, either.

 

[Famine]

Hydrogen has nothing to do with water, either.

Explain what bearing Lucas and Jordan racing at Silverstone last weekend has on GT5.

 

[Soju]

May I yawn?

Yaaaaawnn* Its contagious!

Its gonna be a long month..

 

[Voltaic]

May I yawn?

Me too

 

[FishforRent]

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

*loves that saying*

 

[SrRd RacinG]

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

*loves that saying*

I always say:

When there's news, we pick and feast on every detail.

When there's no news, we pick and feast one one another.

 

[squishydk]

watched the movie "300" yesterday again, and was thinking about GT5 :S

Kaz being king Leoneidis, and PD/SOONY the 300. And we are the hungering masses, some frighten, others anxious, but all waiting. And the just stand the same place, in the movie the hot gates or what its called, PD stays at "90%" or "soon". I hope this has a better ending than the movie though

Yeh that was a bit weird, thats what you get for not sleeping 50 hours

 

[Spagetti69]

Explain what bearing Lucas and Jordan racing at Silverstone last weekend has on GT5.

Absolutely nothing at all. It's the same when prince Charles talks to a shrub and the anti fox brigade storm in. Or maybe when the lord mayor opens a supermarket and spidermans on the roof with fathers for justice. None of the topics are related to each other. The only thing in common is frustration. BTW I do not condone the actions of these guys but only trying to shed light on their actions. If GT5 release date is as important to them as fathers for justice then I envy their sheltered lives.

Just pray they don't turn up on track day dressed as sack boy with G25 wheels lol.

 

[Famine]

The only thing in common is frustration.

I'd have gone for "attention whoring", but otherwise I agree.

 

[[UK] ANDYW]

Because it's nothing to do with GT5. Nothing that occurs at GT Academy has any effect on GT5 and vice versa.

Of course. GT Academy = Gran Turismo Academy. It's still nothing to do with GT5.

Yes, it's a guarantee. But GT Academy is unrelated to GT5.

But the GT Academy TT gave us a taste of the new physics from GT5. So there is a relation in that regard. But I hear what you are saying in regards to the actual finals (real cars), winners and the racing series.

I unusually disagree with Famine..

The GT Academy has everything to do with GT5.

It's 100% GT5 marketing, and 99.9% of GT fans are worse off because of it - it is yet another PD pet project that has taken development time away from releasing GT5.

These kind of competitions should have occured AFTER GT5 has been released.

I'm very happy for JordanT & LucasO, but by posting in these seemingly unrealated (not in my opinion) forums hopefully people in the Sony/Nissan/PD management will notice the anger surrounding GT5's delay.

 

[Famine]

The GT Academy has everything to do with GT5.

It's 100% GT5 marketing, and 99.9% of GT fans are worse off because of it - it is yet another PD pet project that has taken development time away from releasing GT5.

PD are not involved in Lucas and Jordan's current activities. In fact PD weren't involved at all, besides throwing together a track they'd already modelled and two cars they'd already modelled into a Time Trial demo. Must have taken them all of a day.

Once the time trial had closed, the Academy was entirely in the hands of SCEE - an unrelated division (PD is a Sony subsidiary, entirely separate from the SCE divisions) - and run by a publicity company and a race team, none of which involve any staff from PD in any way.


So the races at Silverstone for Jordan and Lucas (and Alex) have nothing to do with GT5 or its launch schedule. Demanding "release the damn game" from people who have no knowledge of, responsibility for or interaction with GT5 is uninformed, puerile, rude nonsense.

 

[[UK] ANDYW]

In fact PD weren't involved at all, besides throwing together a track they'd already modelled and two cars they'd already modelled into a Time Trial demo. Must have taken them all of a day.

All of one day? - I would estimate 4-6months minimum

Gran-turismo.com leaderboard integration?
PSN Development & Approval Process?
Quality control?
Testing?
The fact it was advertised as a showcase of the GT5 physics?

I'm a software developer, and from my experience there is no way PD had a back seat regarding GT Academy - or that it didn't hamper GT5 development time..

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree..

 

[Famine]

All of one day?

If that.

Gran-turismo.com leaderboard integration?

That'd be the realm of the web team, not the game programming team.

PSN Development & Approval Process?

That'd be the realm of SCE - and PD are in-house.

Quality control?
Testing?

Already done - the properties were not new and developed for the Time Trial, but existing ones.

The fact it was advertised as a showcase of the GT5 physics?

I missed that part. I've seen several mentions of it being an update from GT5P but not representative of GT5's physics engine (what with it being quite a small download).

I'm a software developer, and from my experience there is no way PD had a back seat regarding GT Academy - or that it didn't hamper GT5 development time..

Once the Time Trial ended, they had no involvement whatsoever. I went to the Silverstone final and there was no-one from PD there. The brand manager of SCEE was though.

The cars used in the Time Trial were cars they already had. The track used in the Time Trial was a track they already had. The physics model was a simplified version of the one they already have. The online leaderboard integration is identical to that which they already have in GT5P.

The Time Trial, it's worth noting, launched on the day we were told to expect a release a few months ago. It was announced two weeks before it actually hit and I'd guess as a filler, following an "Uh-oh... we're not going to make this date" moment - after all, GT Academy 2008 was based on GT5 Prologue time trials, so there was no reason for the scheduled GT Academy 2010 not to be (and in fact the regional finals tournaments mainly used a GT5P build - sent out by SCEE [I asked Penrose why the finals didn't all use the same tracks/cars]).


But all this aside, there is absolutely no connection between Lucas driving an RJN Motorsports Nissan 350Z in the European GT4 Cup, Jordan and Alex driving an RJN Motorsports Nissan 370Z in the European GT4 Cup and the development of GT5. The story was about them racing - and, though we might be a bit jealous of them, remember that they are risking their safety to do what they love (Alex lost a rear wheel during the race!) - and no-one involved in the racing has anything to do with GT5's development or release date.

 

[[UK] ANDYW]

But all this aside, there is absolutely no connection between Lucas driving an RJN Motorsports Nissan 350Z in the European GT4 Cup, Jordan and Alex driving an RJN Motorsports Nissan 370Z in the European GT4 Cup and the development of GT5. The story was about them racing - and, though we might be a bit jealous of them, remember that they are risking their safety to do what they love (Alex lost a rear wheel during the race!) - and no-one involved in the racing has anything to do with GT5's development or release date.[/color][/b]

Not even the fact it was on a Sony forum? Following up the successes of the GT Academy winners? It's blatant GT5 publicity and I'm staggered you dont see it, but you're welcome to your own opinion.

And I hate dropping to the level of spamming forums - and I agree it's rude and ignorant, but I was sorely disappointed when GT4 didnt ship with online functionality.. waiting for GT5 is painful

 

[Famine]

Not even the fact it was on a Sony forum? Following up the successes of the GT Academy winners? It's blatant GT5 publicity and I'm staggered you dont see it, but you're welcome to your own opinion.

It's Gran Turismo publicity, possibly. Nothing to do with GT5 though, unless the drivers, Nissan, RJN Motorsport, Jardine International, Silverstone or SCEE's PR department (once again, GT Academy is an SCEE thing, not SCEJ - not that SCEJ are involved with PD at all anyway) have any say in how the game is developed or when it's released.

Even so, publicity from one department in no way confers influence on or knowledge of a separate department, 11,000 miles distant.

And I hate dropping to the level of spamming forums - and I agree it's rude and ignorant, but I was sorely disappointed when GT4 didnt ship with online functionality.. waiting for GT5 is painful

There is a GT4 Online version. Though you'd need to find one and be able to read Japanese (since it's NTSC-J only and very rare).

 

[Dan_]

I'm not trying to be pedantic or a spammer, but the fact is: Both sides have a point.

The GT Academy really has nothing to do with GT5, it's a marketing tool for the Gran Turismo brand. This is very clear to me.

GT5 is on the pinnacle of media attention as the biggest GT product ever made, at the same time that GT Academy is reaching it's maturity with 2 professional race drivers between it's former participants. It's impossible to talk about GT Academy without mentioning GT5. They aren't related when it comes to an overall perspective (Game <> Event), but are strongly bound by marketing initiatives.

Sooooo, no news again?

 

[GTjazzabrandy]

Is this "let's argue with Famine" day!

 

[Famine]

Is this "let's argue with Famine" day!

No



I can provide a little non-news if you like?

Kaz has been practicing for the 24hr Nuerburgring race on Gran Turismo, because there's too many tourists on the 'Ring itself.