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[parker_125]

Yeah I mean what do you people want? Him to of said"The game is 100% complete"?
So you could all sit here and post "Well then where the **** is the game then?!?!"

It was a figure of speech. I doubt anyone at PD has sat down to anaylize an exact percentage of the current status of the game being completed.....

I mean, how would you, for example, calculate a percentage like that and state it as a fact?

 

[dylansan]

If Kaz thinks the game is unfinished, what exactly are his options? He could wait, and release when he thinks it's ready, or release now, and possibly end up with an embarrassment of a game. There's a lot of pressure on the whole team to produce something worth playing, and right now, as far as Kaz can tell, they don't have that. He doesn't have that many options.

 

[Seismica]

The delay on the Japanese release simply gave them more time in order to add more things, things that may have been taken out of the final game if it was released in March due to being unfinished. Dynamic Weather comes to mind.

The 90% is just a nice round figure for him to use, to mean 'nearly finished'. I doubt he calculated the work hours and the estimated remaining work hours to come out at that percentage. It's just a figure pulled out of thin air as Jordan stated in his article.

If Kaz thinks the game is unfinished, what exactly are his options? He could wait, and release when he thinks it's ready, or release now, and possibly end up with an embarrassment of a game. There's a lot of pressure on the whole team to produce something worth playing, and right now, as far as Kaz can tell, they don't have that. He doesn't have that many options.

In an interview sometime within the last 6 months (Can't remember exactly when), Kaz said he is always disappointed with the game when it is released. There is always new cars, tracks, features etc. that he wants to add to the game, and this sparks the development for the next title in the series. No doubt he will be disappointed with this game too. But the point is, the Fans and Sony have been putting pressure on PD for a release for quite some time, they can't really afford to put it off much longer. They should be putting everything together into a game to put to market right now. We have reason to believe there are some vehicles still being modelled (Some guy made a thread about PD guys at Mclaren a couple of months back, not sure if the guy was legit or telling the truth), so the game is not complete yet.

 

[eSZee]

The delay on the Japanese release simply gave them more time in order to add more things, things that may have been taken out of the final game if it was released in March due to being unfinished. Dynamic Weather comes to mind.

That is just speculation with absolutely nothing to back it up.

 

[Antti-san]

That is just speculation with absolutely nothing to back it up.

Sounds like this forum in a nutshell... *runs*

 

[Seismica]

That is just speculation with absolutely nothing to back it up.

Well yes.

Over a month has passed since the original march release. You can almost guarantee they have added or improved something in that time. So I would say that bit of speculation is quite accurate. The Dyanamic Weather example was me referring to KY saying about it 'not adding to the experience', presumably because it wasn't up to his high standards. Though now I think about it, that was just for weather not Dyanmic weather, there is a difference.

 

[eSZee]

Well yes.

Over a month has passed since the original march release. You can almost guarantee they have added or improved something in that time. So I would say that bit of speculation is quite accurate. The Dyanamic Weather example was me referring to KY saying about it 'not adding to the experience', presumably because it wasn't up to his high standards. Though now I think about it, that was just for weather not Dyanmic weather, there is a difference.

Why? While it's possible, so is pretty much everything else, it's PD and soony we're talking about.
For all we know the production issue was real and they spent the last 3 months fixing it.
In the latest "interview" on the news page KAZ even says many things he wanted will be missing.

 

[myke6699]

The delay on the Japanese release simply gave them more time in order to add more things, things that may have been taken out of the final game if it was released in March due to being unfinished. Dynamic Weather comes to mind.

The 90% is just a nice round figure for him to use, to mean 'nearly finished'. I doubt he calculated the work hours and the estimated remaining work hours to come out at that percentage. It's just a figure pulled out of thin air as Jordan stated in his article.



In an interview sometime within the last 6 months (Can't remember exactly when), Kaz said he is always disappointed with the game when it is released. There is always new cars, tracks, features etc. that he wants to add to the game, and this sparks the development for the next title in the series. No doubt he will be disappointed with this game too. But the point is, the Fans and Sony have been putting pressure on PD for a release for quite some time, they can't really afford to put it off much longer. They should be putting everything together into a game to put to market right now. We have reason to believe there are some vehicles still being modelled (Some guy made a thread about PD guys at Mclaren a couple of months back, not sure if the guy was legit or telling the truth), so the game is not complete yet.

I don't believe it was disappointment but rather dissatisfaction after each game was released- that it could've been better. It's pretty common circumstance in any creative process that after you've finally finished a project, you feel that you could've done better.

 

[Rem20]

Unless we Sony are working with PD, we do not have a clue what they are doing. I am thinking that they knew all along that the game was not going to be released in march.

They used it as a stop gap to quell the fan base a little longer and "delayed" it, then on to business as usual.

E3 could reveal the real release date , or just another stop gap to delay as the date draws near 👎

He could announce that they're 99% done it would not matter, it would just be another thing to quell the fan base, but from the many many posts around here it does not seems to working.

Hey, after a few years why would it

 

[SrRd RacinG]

KY keeps mentioning how GT5 will be this great leap forward. I just hope he is referring to more than just online. I, of course, want a great online experience, but offline GT5 just as important. Perhaps more? Yes.

 

[parker_125]

Of course yes! Offline is where we will all be, preping our cars for that online race later in the day!

 

[SrRd RacinG]

He admitted that not everything he had hoped for will be included in the game but wouldn’t elaborate on what was missing.

I cannot help but to think about the cock-pit view, damage debacle.

 

[GPR]

Well no ones really knows what will be left out and once released we may never know exactly what they have been working on and never got finished, unless they themselves care to reveal what was left on the cutting room floor so to speak.

I personally agree with the few stating that a better online component would be good but offline is far more important.

 

[Terronium-12]

If something vital has been cut from the final product because of this 3D bs, or whatever...they'll never hear the end of it.

If it's delayed until 2011, well, that in itself is fail.

 

[Melfice7]

He admitted that not everything he had hoped for will be included in the game but wouldn’t elaborate on what was missing.

I cannot help but to think about the cock-pit view, damage debacle.

my bet is weather

 

[patriotzero]

Weather system is done already confirmed..It could be skidmarks better damage reverse lights Porsche Track editor 3d trees

 

[freshseth83]

It's been said by Sony, on more than one occasion this year, that GT5 will be released, this year! If PD knows whats good for him, than he'll stick to that statement by Sony.

As for this 90% and no increase in months on that number, all I can say is, so what? Seriously, if you're getting hung up on some stupid number that was probably just a repeat from another interview, you have no patience. You guys here as well as me have been waiting on GT5 since weve beaten prologue. A few more months aint gonna hurt. E3 is around the corner and we can probably expect some type of news/demo there on GT5. Lets be patient like we have been, and stop reading into numbers that are used as a generalization.

 

[Melfice7]

Weather system is done already confirmed..

confirmed where? vague mistranslations? the only thing 100% confirmed about GT5 is that it has cars and tracks

 

[gtbillyboy]

Kaz doesn't say if all the features he wants won;t be there because the PS3 can't handle it, or because they are not finished.

I suspect they had ot make compromises and therefore some features will be cut to provide a good experience and other features will not quite be finished.

The ones that are not finsihed I hope they continue working after release and patch the missing features next year.

The other features I guess we wait until ps3 unless they are are able to optimise the engine even more than it is already, over the next 12-18 months.

 

[mickstanz]

confirmed where? vague mistranslations? the only thing 100% confirmed about GT5 is that it has cars and tracks

Yeah but all i want to know is the release date anyway, everything else will be a good surprize when it comes to actually putting the disk into my ps3

 

[Seismica]

confirmed where? vague mistranslations? the only thing 100% confirmed about GT5 is that it has cars and tracks

Yeah but all i want to know is the release date anyway, everything else will be a good surprize when it comes to actually putting the disk into my ps3

I haven't been part of this community long enough... But apparently things that were 'confirmed' for previous games never made it to the final game. I believe online gameplay for GT4 was confirmed at one point, and what they actually got was LAN play and a Japan only online beta which I guess led to GT5rologue.

So nothing is confirmed until we put the game in our PS3 and see what the game has to offer first hand.

 

[Rem20]

He admitted that not everything he had hoped for will be included in the game but wouldn’t elaborate on what was missing.

I cannot help but to think about the cock-pit view, damage debacle.

Given the detail of the dash view, I would think such a decision would be determined in the first year of development.

They would have decided on the dash view years ago, and it would be just now that they had shown us non dash view cars.

Of course there is no evidence of non dash view cars at this time. There is no way they could say that they had to leave out features and the dash view being one of them.

It would not be possible to have only 170 or so premium models afters 4 years and say the other 800 or so potential premium models had to be cut.

There would be no way to model all those cars in 8 years let alone for the remainder of this year or early/mid/late into the next.

They would have known whether it was possible back in 2006 or so, and if it was not possible they would have chosen another plan altogether 👍

 

[Famine]

Unless we Sony are working with PD, we do not have a clue what they are doing. I am thinking that they knew all along that the game was not going to be released in march.

Remember back in November, right through to February, where Sony were releasing new images and videos from GT5 pretty much at the rate of one release a week? And now... it's all gone quiet?

Doesn't that tell you that the March (Japanese) date was genuine and they were starting the publicity machine to that end and, when it changed, they brought it to a halt?

It's been said by Sony, on more than one occasion this year, that GT5 will be released, this year! If PD knows whats good for him, than he'll stick to that statement by Sony.

What is this nonsense? If they know "what's good for him"?

 

[IROC89CAMARO]

Im longing for a GT, Forza 3 gets old really fast it has no feel no life. Everyone be patient another 4 months isn't going to hurt. The "online" and "damage" part of GT5 is taking so long to perfect no half ass like Forza.
Famine for spell check

 

[Famine]

I'm longing for a GT. Forza 3 gets old really fast, it has no feel and no life. Everyone be patient, another 4 months isn't going to hurt. The "online" and "damage" part of GT5 is taking so long to perfect, no half-ass like Forza.
Famine for spell check

Since you insist. I've no idea why you revel so much in moderator attention.

 

[Rem20]

Remember back in November, right through to February, where Sony were releasing new images and videos from GT5 pretty much at the rate of one release a week? And now... it's all gone quiet?

Doesn't that tell you that the March (Japanese) date was genuine and they were starting the publicity machine to that end and, when it changed, they brought it to a halt?

True, but even then they still could have done it to trick the fan base as well as the competitors.

It just seems weird that such a big release has so many variables unknown to the publisher/Sony or the fans, especially after all this time.

 

[IROC89CAMARO]

Since you insist. I've no idea why you revel so much in moderator attention.

Can you reveal the car now? or is it still Top Secret? We need news and your the man for the job 💡

 

[Famine]

True, but even then they still could have done it to trick the fan base as well as the competitors.

It just seems weird that such a big release has so many variables unknown to the publisher/Sony or the fans, especially after all this time.

Are you new to the Gran Turismo series? This is pretty normal behaviour for them

Can you reveal the car now? or is it still Top Secret? We need news and your the man for the job 💡

I'll check. Just for you.

 

[IROC89CAMARO]

Are you new to the Gran Turismo series? This is pretty normal behaviour for them



I'll check. Just for you.

Thanks man, and i will stop with the stupid BS before i get banned

 

[Rem20]

Are you new to the Gran Turismo series? This is pretty normal behaviour for them

Me and the GT series go back a little ways, but I have never followed the development of GT this closely before.

By the time I got to the previous games in the series they were either years old or just released. My anticipation really sprang up for GT5 when GT4's weaknesses started showing due to the ps2's outdated tech, all the Pc sims with their high end physics/car models/dash views.

The limited over steering nature of GT4 makes me mad, especially when it is the last fully fledged GT and we are stuck playing this for all these years while everyone else has next-gen physics.