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[speedfreak69]

Not sure if whether this is new or not but anyway, here's a new video showing the Nissan GT-R, and the guy can actually drive. 👍

http://www.bscreview.com/2010/06/gran-turismo-5-live-gameplay-sony-and-polyphony-digital-e3-video/

If you think that guy can drive, I've got bad news for you.

 

[D.Pritchard]

I'm not going to get into this argument, dude. I was just agreeing that I'm tired of this argument and it's SAD that it's being dragged out from it's grave.

Well then how about a change of direction. Has anybody thought/mentioned that with the internet connection built in that we could possibly be getting car upgrades monthly if not weekly from PD? New cars and standards upgraded to premium. Take an online vote for which standards the fans would like to see upgraded and go with that.

With separate groups at PD working on cars and tracks who's to say additional tracks won't show up also. Wouldn't a monthly upgrade packet with 2 new tracks and 10 new cars be cool? Even if it were a bi-monthly occurrence, by the time GT6 shows up we could have 1000+ premium cars and 100 tracks. Not outside the realm of possibility. 💡

 

[alfredchiwai]

Well then how about a change of direction. Has anybody thought/mentioned that with the internet connection built in that we could possibly be getting car upgrades monthly if not weekly from PD? New cars and standards upgraded to premium. Take an online vote for which standards the fans would like to see upgraded and go with that.

With separate groups at PD working on cars and tracks who's to say additional tracks won't show up also. Wouldn't a monthly upgrade packet with 2 new tracks and 10 new cars be cool? Even if it were a bi-monthly occurrence, by the time GT6 shows up we could have 1000+ premium cars and 100 tracks. Not outside the realm of possibility. 💡

That's possible. But, I think we need to pay USD 100 more for the premium cars.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Well then how about a change of direction. Has anybody thought/mentioned that with the internet connection built in that we could possibly be getting car upgrades monthly if not weekly from PD? New cars and standards upgraded to premium. Take an online vote for which standards the fans would like to see upgraded and go with that.

Possible, but unlikely, it would be great indeed if they update some of the cars, but it should be free.

 

[D.Pritchard]

If you think that guy can drive, I've got bad news for you.

Yeah really. That guy stunk. Granted, not his style of game, but he's got that herky-jerky rookie controller user look to his driving and he's using a wheel! Not smooth at all. Banzai into the corner, bashing the other car out of the way like a GT4 AI. Didn't even finish watching it. Saw enough of that type of racing in intermediate GT5.

 

[analog]

Well then how about a change of direction. Has anybody thought/mentioned that with the internet connection built in that we could possibly be getting car upgrades monthly if not weekly from PD? New cars and standards upgraded to premium. Take an online vote for which standards the fans would like to see upgraded and go with that.

With separate groups at PD working on cars and tracks who's to say additional tracks won't show up also. Wouldn't a monthly upgrade packet with 2 new tracks and 10 new cars be cool? Even if it were a bi-monthly occurrence, by the time GT6 shows up we could have 1000+ premium cars and 100 tracks. Not outside the realm of possibility. 💡

That's what also crossed my mind, new cars could be added possibly for free once in a while ( although monthly is perhaps asking too much ) and premium-upgrades could be optional ( possibly buying those instead of carpacks offered in most driving games ).
I'm not for online voting though, they should eventually ( if they chose to go this route, or if it even makes that much difference providing cockpits are in ) make all standard cars available as premium as GT always took as much effort to create the normal cars as the exotic ones ( you know what cars are gonna be picked by online voting ).

 

[Rodpunisher]

If you think that guy can drive, I've got bad news for you.

I was going to say the same thing

 

[mr_VOLCANO]

Yeah really. That guy stunk. Granted, not his style of game, but he's got that herky-jerky rookie controller user look to his driving and he's using a wheel! Not smooth at all. Banzai into the corner, bashing the other car out of the way like a GT4 AI. Didn't even finish watching it. Saw enough of that type of racing in intermediate GT5.

Well compared to all the other new gt5 videos this guy looks like Loeb

 

[D.Pritchard]

Well compared to all the other new gt5 videos this guy looks like Loeb

Actually I think he needs his pre-frontal "lobe" checked.

 

[eSZee]

Yeah your probably right. However, like many I had hopes for MW2, but was seriously dissappointed. The single player story was rubbish, and online it's just too stupidly OTT. Put simply, anybody who buys another CoD and, as you say, forgets about GT5 - there is something seriously wrong with them mentally. After MW2 I couldn't give a toss about CoD games anymore.

That's a pretty daft, stupid, opinion.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

He's much too sensible to exhibit a psychopathic behaviour.

KY? We are talking about the guy who's been quoted as saying he doesn't concern himself with even looking at other racing games because they aren't comparable to GT? That kind of ignorance is unhealthy; FM3 might have it's issues, but it still does have a good chunk of features that GT could use.

And yeah, he's said he won't release it until it's perfect. Not that that's worth a lot; he also said almost a year ago they could release "whenever they wanted" .

Well then how about a change of direction. Has anybody thought/mentioned that with the internet connection built in that we could possibly be getting car upgrades monthly if not weekly from PD? New cars and standards upgraded to premium. Take an online vote for which standards the fans would like to see upgraded and go with that.

Weekly? We're talking about PD here. It has been brought up though and I hope they do something like that; giving us more Premiums in the place of Standards as time goes on. An online vote could be helpful, but would mean the "usual suspects" would be picked more often than some of the rarer cars. That and community involvement doesn't really sound like PD's thing.

With separate groups at PD working on cars and tracks who's to say additional tracks won't show up also. Wouldn't a monthly upgrade packet with 2 new tracks and 10 new cars be cool? Even if it were a bi-monthly occurrence, by the time GT6 shows up we could have 1000+ premium cars and 100 tracks. Not outside the realm of possibility. 💡

With your time frames, it makes me wonder if you've been following anything PD-related at all these last few years.

 

[eSZee]

KY? We are talking about the guy who's been quoted as saying he doesn't concern himself with even looking at other racing games because they aren't comparable to GT? That kind of ignorance is unhealthy; FM3 might have it's issues, but it still does have a good chunk of features that GT could use.

And yeah, he's said he won't release it until it's perfect. Not that that's worth a lot; he also said almost a year ago they could release "whenever they wanted" .



Weekly? We're talking about PD here. It has been brought up though and I hope they do something like that; giving us more Premiums in the place of Standards as time goes on. An online vote could be helpful, but would mean the "usual suspects" would be picked more often than some of the rarer cars. That and community involvement doesn't really sound like PD's thing.



With your time frames, it makes me wonder if you've been following anything PD-related at all these last few years.

That isn't ignorance.
He's just an "artist". That's how they all are.

 

[SuperShouden]

And, actually, Kaz has checked out Forza 3 and Need for Speed and the other competition. and I can promise you that if we do get "stunt arenas" and a livery editor, you'll be able to thank Turn10

 

[SlipZtrEm]

That isn't ignorance.
He's just an "artist". That's how they all are.

If that's not ignorance (purposely ignoring the competition)... then what is?

And, actually, Kaz has checked out Forza 3 and Need for Speed and the other competition. and I can promise you that if we do get "stunt arenas" and a livery editor, you'll be able to thank Turn10

Hmmm, well if he has checked them out, it goes against his earlier quote saying he doesn't.

I'm glad the other games are cottoning onto the idea of providing a more GT-like experience. The fact Forza has focused so much on livery editing has meant it's become an unavoidable feature that all racing games have to consider these days. That's win-win for us customers, definitely 👍

 

[SuperShouden]

http://www.pushsquare.com/8363/kazunori-yamauchi-forza-is-different-to-a-simulator/

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Ah, neat. It's very encouraging they were playing it in the office. Hands-on is the best way to draw comparisons, and improve on certain aspects. 👍

(FWIW, I've always felt like Forza was missing that crucial feeling of weight to the cars, as well. It seems to be a common complaint)

 

[SuperShouden]

I think, at last year's E3 Kaz got his hands on Forza 3 and basically said "There's some good things that they're doing, and some things they got wrong," and that was pretty much the end of it. Good stuff would probably be the "Playground" areas and the livery editor...which is sounds like we might be getting in GT5, as well. I know I mention that a lot, but still...

Also, there have been photos of the "lounge" area in the Polyphony Digital HQ that showed not only an Xbox 360 but, I think Forza 2, as well. I'm sure they have Forza 3, as well.

 

[Tenacious D]

If that's not ignorance (purposely ignoring the competition)... then what is?

Kaz's standard has always been reality. Not what someone else has been doing. If he followed the herd, we'd be playing Need For Kitsch clones, not Gran Turismo.

The only things I can think of off the top of my (admittedly sleepy) head which you have to look to video games for, are dynamic racing lines and Forza 1's drivatar. Of course, GT4 had B-Spec first, so Turn 10 even borrowed that idea, though I prefer what they did with it. Sad that they dropped it.

Gee... praise for Turn 10?? I'd better watch my reputation.

Plus, some have been stating that Polyphony have been doing a lot of hand sitting over the past five years. But keep in mind since GT4 that Polyphony has produced

• Gran Turismo HD (probably a month's work)
• Tourist Trophy (perhaps a year or so)
• GT5 Prologue (maybe three months, and a few weeks for each update)
• The Time Trial demo (perhaps a monthor so)
• GT PSP (anywhere from one to two years)
• Plus exhaustive work on GT5 (what time they had otherwise over the past five years)

I know some of you would rather Kaz have his team make cars and tracks with half the polys or so - you know, Standard Car levels, and have several hundred cars and dozens of tracks of the same level. This is Kaz's decision. On the one hand, he's clearly made content which is pretty much future proof, which can be used for the next two Gran Turismos.

On the other, maybe he's a lucid man, and sees trouble for this planet on the near horizon, and wanted to do something truly ambitious in his days on this world. Some of you don't keep track of politics and other current events, but the governments of the world have pretty much printed money to the point that all currencies but China's are worthless. It's literally a miracle of God that we have a world economy. Iran and other Islamic countries are orchestrating global jihad, and I think the only places free of their trouble are the Norht and South Poles. Plus, they're on the brink of getting nuclear weapons and ICBM missile technology from China - thank you, worthless UN. Russia might have killed the heads of the Polish government a few months ago, literally an act of war that everyone is afraid to denounce. And our American government is full of idiot radical leaders that are spending money they don't have, and threatening not only our freedoms, even to using gas and electricity as we see fit, but are having our banks, large corporations, health care and possibly the internet nationalized in the near future. And I haven't even mentioned the possibility of a 2012 event.

There is nothing sure about our future whatsoever. Civilizations do fall. If we don't get some strong, sensible leaders, ours may well also.

Just a sobering thought.

 

[wajdi1977]

http://www.pushsquare.com/8363/kazunori-yamauchi-forza-is-different-to-a-simulator/

Old!

 

[alucard0712]

http://www.pushsquare.com/8363/kazunori-yamauchi-forza-is-different-to-a-simulator/

Very old joke!

 

[SrRd RacinG]

It's only a good thing if he plays other games in the genre. I am sure we'll get some sort of livery editor thanks to FM3 and other titles. And I'm sure FM4 will take weather or a track editor from GT5. But from there, it does not stop.

Competition is a beautiful thing. Keeps the industry fresh. Forever.

 

[D.Pritchard]

On the other, maybe he's a lucid man, and sees trouble for this planet on the near horizon, and wanted to do something truly ambitious in his days on this world. Some of you don't keep track of politics and other current events, but the governments of the world have pretty much printed money to the point that all currencies but China's are worthless. It's literally a miracle of God that we have a world economy. Iran and other Islamic countries are orchestrating global jihad, and I think the only places free of their trouble are the Norht and South Poles. Plus, they're on the brink of getting nuclear weapons and ICBM missile technology from China - thank you, worthless UN. Russia might have killed the heads of the Polish government a few months ago, literally an act of war that everyone is afraid to denounce. And our American government is full of idiot radical leaders that are spending money they don't have, and threatening not only our freedoms, even to using gas and electricity as we see fit, but are having our banks, large corporations, health care and possibly the internet nationalized in the near future. And I haven't even mentioned the possibility of a 2012 event.

There is nothing sure about our future whatsoever. Civilizations do fall. If we don't get some strong, sensible leaders, ours may well also.

Just a sobering thought.

I agree. If we as Americans continue to follow the rep/dem band wagons we are doomed. Continuing to vote those cronies back in over and over again is foolish. We are the political laughing stock of the world with our bi-partisan false democracy.

Off topic, but I am passionate about this.

Back on subject.

With your time frames, it makes me wonder if you've been following anything PD-related at all these last few years.

With the basics of turning cars from standard to premium already in place, 2-4 cars a week, I believe, is "not outside the realm of possibility". I did not say feasible or even easily done, just possible.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Kaz's standard has always been reality. Not what someone else has been doing. If he followed the herd, we'd be playing Need For Kitsch clones, not Gran Turismo.

SrRd said it best, and it applies to this too: competition is a beautiful thing. Creating GT in a vacuum is a poor idea. It's good to know that's not the case, though.

The only things I can think of off the top of my (admittedly sleepy) head which you have to look to video games for, are dynamic racing lines and Forza 1's drivatar. Of course, GT4 had B-Spec first, so Turn 10 even borrowed that idea, though I prefer what they did with it. Sad that they dropped it.

It's questionable who came up with the B-Spec/Drivatar thing first, given the games' respective dev times. But yeah, good things either way. Dynamic racing lines being a really cool development, I think.

Gee... praise for Turn 10?? I'd better watch my reputation.

Oh no... bias... not showing... must... continue... Forza hatred!

Plus, some have been stating that Polyphony have been doing a lot of hand sitting over the past five years. But keep in mind since GT4 that Polyphony has produced

• Gran Turismo HD (probably a month's work)
• Tourist Trophy (perhaps a year or so)
• GT5 Prologue (maybe three months, and a few weeks for each update)
• The Time Trial demo (perhaps a monthor so)
• GT PSP (anywhere from one to two years)
• Plus exhaustive work on GT5 (what time they had otherwise over the past five years)

I know you'd like to believe these times, but show me anything to support them. And even then... why? Prologue's only real design time would be the menus and the gameplay mechanics. The rest of its development is simply part of GT5 proper's. Prologue still is a fancy way of saying demo. The time trial was just boxing current content together in a very basic way. GTHD, as it turns out, can now be rolled into GT5 dev too; since it effectively previewed the standard cars. I hope PSP didn't take more than six months of development from the team; it was a port, with a dozen new models thrown in and physics in line with GT5. The optimization for the PSP must've been a pain, but other than that, the only real new piece of gameplay added in were all the 100+ challenges. There's no GT mode, and incredibly simple dealership/time progression. If that game took two years, I really do wonder what PD's work ethic is like.

I know some of you would rather Kaz have his team make cars and tracks with half the polys or so - you know, Standard Car levels, and have several hundred cars and dozens of tracks of the same level. This is Kaz's decision. On the one hand, he's clearly made content which is pretty much future proof, which can be used for the next two Gran Turismos.

Yeah, I thought about that, in this thread or another (they all bleed together ). Mind you, Standard cars aren't half the polys of Premium; they're 40-50 times less. But anyways, not the point. The point is like you said; the crappy part of this two-tier junk is us getting hit with last-gen models for a large chunk of the lineup in GT4. The good news about the Premiums is they definitely don't look like they need any work for a good many years. We'll only see their numbers grow, and we'll only see Standard amounts shrink. I'm definitely all for that.

Blah blah politics blah

Meh. No place in here for this.

With the basics of turning cars from standard to premium already in place, 2-4 cars a week, I believe, is "not outside the realm of possibility". I did not say feasible or even easily done, just possible.

Again, where are you getting this? A year ago we were told 170 Premiums. This year we're told 200.

 

[D.Pritchard]

I am sure we'll get some sort of livery editor thanks to FM3 and other titles.

I've seen some of the stuff people are doing with FM3's editor at my nephew's place and it's pretty cool. Just don't see me spending that much time playing with it when driving is so much fun.

Could be on those days when I am too exhausted from work to drive well I might dabble.

OK, I can see it. My own companies Logo on my cars. hhhmmmmm

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Back when I played PC sims regularly, I think I actually spent more time creating liveries than actually racing. There's definitely a stronger interest in the game when you see your own, utterly unique creation out there on the track. It's a ton of fun, and prolongs the replayability exponentially.

And if they include storefronts like FM, I know that I can also use them as a way of making easy coin in-game, too

 

[eSZee]

If that's not ignorance (purposely ignoring the competition)... then what is?

Ignorance would be completely dismissing their existence.
From the uninterpreted quote that I saw it was more along them lines of him not being too worried about what they offer ahead of GT games, not them being inferior in every way to GT games.
Steve Jobs would be a person who exudes ignorance every time he breathes, I wouldn't go that far with Kaz.

 

[Scoop2004]

I'm content with how the game is shaping up, I just hope that come release time the underbody sparks and exhaust flames return.. (And i hope the exhaust flames are ever so slightly different each time it happens)

And the smoke is a bit disapointing still ,especially on the recent video showing cars making the odd puff of smoke coming out of the tyres here and there....Looks pants, worse than "shift's"

 

[IROC89CAMARO]

Kaz's standard has always been reality. Not what someone else has been doing. If he followed the herd, we'd be playing Need For Kitsch clones, not Gran Turismo.

The only things I can think of off the top of my (admittedly sleepy) head which you have to look to video games for, are dynamic racing lines and Forza 1's drivatar. Of course, GT4 had B-Spec first, so Turn 10 even borrowed that idea, though I prefer what they did with it. Sad that they dropped it.

Gee... praise for Turn 10?? I'd better watch my reputation.

Plus, some have been stating that Polyphony have been doing a lot of hand sitting over the past five years. But keep in mind since GT4 that Polyphony has produced

• Gran Turismo HD (probably a month's work)
• Tourist Trophy (perhaps a year or so)
• GT5 Prologue (maybe three months, and a few weeks for each update)
• The Time Trial demo (perhaps a monthor so)
• GT PSP (anywhere from one to two years)
• Plus exhaustive work on GT5 (what time they had otherwise over the past five years)

I know some of you would rather Kaz have his team make cars and tracks with half the polys or so - you know, Standard Car levels, and have several hundred cars and dozens of tracks of the same level. This is Kaz's decision. On the one hand, he's clearly made content which is pretty much future proof, which can be used for the next two Gran Turismos.

On the other, maybe he's a lucid man, and sees trouble for this planet on the near horizon, and wanted to do something truly ambitious in his days on this world. Some of you don't keep track of politics and other current events, but the governments of the world have pretty much printed money to the point that all currencies but China's are worthless. It's literally a miracle of God that we have a world economy. Iran and other Islamic countries are orchestrating global jihad, and I think the only places free of their trouble are the Norht and South Poles. Plus, they're on the brink of getting nuclear weapons and ICBM missile technology from China - thank you, worthless UN. Russia might have killed the heads of the Polish government a few months ago, literally an act of war that everyone is afraid to denounce. And our American government is full of idiot radical leaders that are spending money they don't have, and threatening not only our freedoms, even to using gas and electricity as we see fit, but are having our banks, large corporations, health care and possibly the internet nationalized in the near future. And I haven't even mentioned the possibility of a 2012 event.

There is nothing sure about our future whatsoever. Civilizations do fall. If we don't get some strong, sensible leaders, ours may well also.

Just a sobering thought.

Happy hour started a little early i hope, either that or your nuttier than a fruit cake

 

[RACECAR]

I pretty sure "perfection" was never promised by Kaz. What he promises is the best game that he and PD could possibly deliver. Perfection and perfectionist are words thrown out by journos and fans when describing Kaz and PD's approach towards the game's development and never a self-description on the part of Kaz. He's much too sensible to exhibit a psychopathic behaviour.

Thank goodness, otherwise the next person that complains about what isn't in the game might have been murdered

 

[the Interceptor]

And the smoke is a bit disapointing still ,especially on the recent video showing cars making the odd puff of smoke coming out of the tyres here and there....Looks pants, worse than "shift's"

I find the smoke to be odd as well. I noticed that while it mostly looks ok, it disappears quite quickly even in the rally races. For some reason I have the feeling that they had to do this to prevent the smoke from pulling the graphics engine (as in the framerate) down momentarily. Smoke is a quite complex thing to simulate, and the large number of premium cars along with the well-detailed courses may introduce a limit for such extras.