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Why is no body listening to this guy. It has no cockpit because it has no cockpit in real life and it has blacked out windows.
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?v=y&s=c&id=3207&p=2005_Nissan_GTRConcept2.jpg
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Why is no body listening to this guy. It has no cockpit because it has no cockpit in real life and it has blacked out windows.
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?v=y&s=c&id=3207&p=2005_Nissan_GTRConcept2.jpg
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You do know that the GT-R Proto WAS in GT4, right? They even had an LM editoin of it.
This is true. However, the question still remains, does this mean it's a Premium car or a standard car? I would think that because it didn't have an interior in real life, it'll be listed as a standard car.
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I'll let you figure out how you're wrong about this one.
As an aside, Standard doesn't always mean from past console GT games, since we're getting the Countach, R8 LMS, and perhaps the Furai as Standard models.
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Gtpsp.
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They aren't the same car the same way this:
isn't the same car as the Z Concept in GT3.
You know, sometimes I think you argue for the sake of arguing. the ONLY time the term "Concept" was attached to the GT-R was in GT4. Every other time it was shown it was labeled as "Prototype" or "Proto" And the only reason it was called "Proto" was because Nissan thought it sounded cooler than "Concept"...which is true, it does. But enough of this petty argument.
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Exactly. Just how the E60 M5 is a Premium & it was a previous GT4 car.
I noted before on the topic of the GT-R Prototype as well & how it seemed to have been modeled to the exact same level as any other car for GT5
, it just didn't have an interior. With that, I am wondering (& hoping, too) if PD will use it as the bench mark for at least, the exterior of the Standard car to be up to near-Premium quality.In other words,
Standard Car != Premium Car w/o interiors.
It isn't looking quite like it, but I'd prefer it over an obvious-to-tell, gussied up GT4 car.
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No, I argue when someone is wrong. You are wrong. Go check any images of the car in GT4 you're saying was the same as the one in GT5P.
Odd. Get your facts straight before coming up with some random story about the names of the cars.
Odd. Get your facts straight before coming up with some random story about the names of the cars.
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No, I argue when someone is wrong. You are wrong. Go check any images of the car in GT4 you're saying was the same as the one in GT5P.
Odd. Get your facts straight before coming up with some random story about the names of the cars.
:facepalm: You say you only argue when people are wrong, but you sure do a lot of arguing. I don't think everyone you're arguing with is wrong.
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Oh, right, I'm sorry. It was the GT-R Concept that was in GT4. Call me stupid, but aren't a prototype and a concept car the same 🤬 thing? The GT-R Concept in GT4 is the same car as the GT-R Proto in GT5
Not exactly. A Concept is only a design which may or may not be produced, a prototype is actually a car thats being refined and prepared for production. So to give you a clear and unargumentative answer, the GTR Concept is only a design, the GTR proto was a prototype in testing, being refined until it was ready to be produced. Hope that clears it up.
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No, no I didn't. Now I do.
It's quite interesting. It's obviously not a direct port so this one is officially a car taken from GT4 that was updated to today's standards to be used in GT5. In theory what all standard cars should be. Even though it's not exactly the same car, that's the first shred of evidence that points at cars actually receiving an upgrade. It's too bad we have a standard car trailer plagued by direct GT4 ports.
But maybe it means some standard cars will in fact be upgraded. One can only hope.
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-> If I can recall also, even the GT-R Black Mask back in GT5P demo/spec-I/pre-unveiling didn't have the cockpit view either. 
The two GT-R's with no cockpit view:
^ This very car (the Black Mask) was the GT-R before the car got deleted when the production version was unveiled.
The two GT-R's with no cockpit view:
^ This very car (the Black Mask) was the GT-R before the car got deleted when the production version was unveiled.
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-> If I can recall also, even the GT-R Black Mask back in GT5P demo/spec-I/pre-unveiling didn't have the cockpit view either.
The two GT-R's with no cockpit view:
^ This very car (the Black Mask) was the GT-R before the car got deleted when the production version was unveiled.
Even in Spec III the GTR doesn't have a cockpit view.
(sorry this will go off topic... but...) I think the problem is the fact that, in GT5p.. everyone got used to a cockpit view, not for every car.. but the majority of cars had a dash view..now for GT5, its like they introduced it, and its taken away for say 800 cars...
Personally, It doesn't bother me that much, considering the wait. etcetera...
BUT. and this is a big but, Prologue showed what they wanted to do. Now because of "certain constraints" it has got to the point that it takes too long to do every car "how they wanted to", yes they can recreate every car detailed and completely modeled...
The problem with that is, (I read) A car takes a month to fully recreate and model... now don't get me wrong but I'd love to see every car modeled. That includes inside and out.
But because of the time it takes to do this, It's just not convienient or suitable at this point and time. I think ,personally if they wanted GT5 how they had set out to do it (going by prologue standards) I think it would have meant that it would be truly "next gen" because we would have to wait until they modelled these cars, and for 1000 cars fully detailed, it would take too long for the game to be finished. Obviously it's dissapointing, but to me... every gen has to have a "Gran Turismo"...
Just because they can't match expectation, although that is what they showed with prologue...
I think if they can do their best and bring out a game that is a showcase for them and shows that GT5 is up there with the best and shows that although it's taken longer than expected it is still "The Real Driving Simulator"
To me I just want a game that carries on the GT feeling and attention to detail, yes I agree that "they" put the expectation and raised the bar for themselves, but now.... Truly, everyone can see what they wanted to do..
But Reality sometimes bites back and they had to rein themselves in..
All I want to see now is Gran Turismo back, showing cars as we know the series had done. Yes, some things are going to be dissapointing, BUT the problem I have is the fact that people are ready to write off the series because of something they don't want to "put up" with... TO me I know I'm going to love GT5, but that doesn't stop me looking forward to GT6.
And to me, I just want people to be patient and actually look forward to the next Gran Turismo, not write it off because "thats what is expected nowadays.." but just look forward to a game that has a certain pedigree...
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I do see differences in the GT4 model and the one in Prologue. Look under the headlights, the GT4 one has vents, whereas it's solid black in the Prologue version. And the bonnet has 2 ducts in the GT5 version, and the GT4 one has a single black vent towards the top
version, and the GT4 one has a single black vent towards the top
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All premium cars will have interior modelling and interior view, that is confirmed and/or highly likely. So does this mean the GTR Proto is a standard car? Even though the exterior is up to premium standards?
It could just be an exception to the Standard/Premium guidelines, but surely there will be other cars like this, and surely they have to be rated as standard due to the lack of interior?
It could just be an exception to the Standard/Premium guidelines, but surely there will be other cars like this, and surely they have to be rated as standard due to the lack of interior?
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FFS.
The proto doesn't have an interior, because the real car doesn't have one.
The proto doesn't have an interior, because the real car doesn't have one.
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They built a working prototype, therefore it must have an interior. Otherwise, like CoolColJ says, how did they drive it around? Plus he posted images of the real interior, that pretty much settles it. For whatever reason, PD didn't model the interior for this car.
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I'm sure that Standard cars will not have cockpit view, because how 1000 cars have it and one Nissan GTR don't?It must be the 3rd class of cars or PD need other solution like add cockpit view to it.
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^^^ ****! 
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There is a guy that make beautiful Prologue videos with very close camera in replays.F40,BMW and Evora.Maybe we need to ask him to make a close-up with GTR Proto?
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Im not afriad the standard cars will be so ugly theyll be unplayable... take a look at the GTpsp intro on youtube, they even look great and some of the pictures from photomode in GT4 look so good it puts most modern games to shame... really everyone needs to move on with this standard/premium talk.
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You've just made me realize somthing... Maybe... just maybe this video is GT5 with even more examples of standard cars...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5h_8XgBdOM
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