GT5 to get Move Support! Get hyped!

[CSLACR]

Same, but that would be the only reason I'd consider buying this thing..

Well if you already own a wheel,(or are going to get one) there wouldn't be a point. If you don't own a wheel, it's probably more fun than pushing little thumb sticks.
40 bucks isn't bad at all for a "cheap" wheel setup like this, let alone doubling for motorcycles in such a fashion.

Why would Polyphony approve such a product is beyond me... Kaz always fights for Realism in his games. This completely destroys the objective. It's great to get new support and features but this if anything is a major novality in it's own.

It's more realistic than a DS3, less realistic than a $100 wheel. This certainly isn't the first wheel of it's kind, adding it to GT5's list of functional wheels won't hurt anyone, including yourself.

It sounds as if both can be blamed but Sony more than pd.

I haven't read anything that says it's Sony's fault at all, what have you been reading?

 

[another_jakhole]

Hopefully. Or maybe someone had a tip gt6 will feature motorbikes

GT5 Expansion Pack!

If that happens, it'll be a good sign that GT6 is being made for the PS4.

 

[obsessive rules]

Let me put it this way. Where have you read where it's not sonys fault.

 

[gogatrs]

I think that if that could be mounted somehow and you use rubberbands for resistance, this could be a relatively cheap alternative to a real wheel.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

It's my opinion. It sounds as if both can be blamed but Sony more than pd. all in saying.

Yet the facts show that PD is just as much to blaim as Sony, and people are just grandstanding and saying "don't blame PD but instead get mad at Sony". You may have your opinion but statements and facts show that you probably follow them instead of your gut

What would be nice is to see what Kaz and crew think about this move intergration and controller (somewhat nice).

 

[obsessive rules]

I think that if that could be mounted somehow and you use rubberbands for resistance, this could be a relatively cheap alternative to a real wheel.

Well... I got my steering wheel for £19.99 and it's pretty good. $40? Naa.

 

[obsessive rules]

Yet the facts show that PD is just as much to blaim as Sony, and people are just grandstanding and saying "don't blame PD but instead get mad at Sony". You may have your opinion but statements and facts show that you probably follow them instead of your gut

What would be nice is to see what Kaz and crew think about this move intergration and controller (somewhat nice).

Well. I'm going with my gut. My final opinion *cough*profit*cough*.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Well. I'm going with my gut. My final opinion *cough*profit*cough*.

So you're going to ignore the truth and then continue to post your opinion in a fact like formula? Okay

 

[obsessive rules]

So you're going to ignore the truth and then continue to post your opinion in a fact like formula? Okay

I'm not judging either I'm just saying its sonys way of recovering its losses. Could be kind of fun.
On the other hand it could be a cynical marketing exercise to grab more money for Sony. Or the novelty could wear after a week and people sell it on eBay for a huge loss.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I'm not judging either I'm just saying its sonys way of recovering its losses. Could be kind of fun.

4 straight years of multi million dollar losses... An aggressive advertising campaign (including product placement) to mirror that of M$ would have put the PS3 in a better position. They could've made better use of the PlayStation Eye as well. But, they dropped the ball on that so Microsoft could run with the idea as Kinect. They could have made use of motion gaming when they announced it early in the PS2's life. Instead they ignored it and allowed Nintendo to take credit for motion gaming.

SONY is really good at partial effort and unfulfilled ambitions.

 

[Mac K]

So you're going to ignore the truth and then continue to post your opinion in a fact like formula? Okay

Pardon me, but you or anyone else aren't exactly posting these "facts" so isn't this a pot calling the kettle black situation? I have yet to see any proof showing that PD was actually involved in this, nor do I care honestly. Is this what it really has to come down to guys?

 

[obsessive rules]

4 straight years of multi million dollar losses... An aggressive advertising campaign (including product placement) to mirror that of M$ would have put the PS3 in a better position. They could've made better use of the PlayStation Eye as well. But, they dropped the ball on that so Microsoft could run with the idea as Kinect. They could have made use of motion gaming when they announced it early in the PS2's life. Instead they ignored it and allowed Nintendo to take credit for motion gaming.

SONY is really good at partial effort and unfulfilled ambitions.

Sony make more than the ps3, they make decent tvs, cameras, phones. Etc. etc.

 

[Fisha695]

So, how much time did this take away from PD?

Probably about 5 seconds to press a button on a keyboard somewhere to activate move support that's more then likely been in the base coding since the days of GT4. Remember the move was originally PS2 technology (there is an awesome Tech demo done at like MIT or some place like that on Youtube) that just didn't end up getting done in-time for the PS2.

Best workout equipment ever... Especially for upper body strength

Truth is other then the fact that it's probaly pretty lightweight it's not that far off from what most racers use to work their Upper Bodies. I wish I could find a vid on Youtube but I can't. For those that don't know racers often use a barbell weight or a weighted steering wheel and they hold it up in a steering wheel position and pretend to drive, which is no different then this wheel well except this wheel is probaly lighter l0l

@ most people in the thread: No need to over-hate on it. Sure, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but there's no need to be so spiteful over something
Besides, this was most likely made more for casual games in mind, like modnation racers etc

Exactly Sony made a product that supports every driving/flying/riding game past, present & future that uses Move.

Yet the facts show that PD is just as much to blaim as Sony, and people are just grandstanding and saying "don't blame PD but instead get mad at Sony". You may have your opinion but statements and facts show that you probably follow them instead of your gut

What Facts? Oh that's right there are none.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Sony make more than the ps3, they make decent tvs, cameras, phones. Etc. etc.

Yeah, I know. They used to make the best TV's on the market. They still price point their consumer electronics as if it's the best. Regardless, SONY have failed to maximize potential PlayStation sales in the current generation.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Pardon me, but you or anyone else aren't exactly posting these "facts" so isn't this a pot calling the kettle black situation? I have yet to see any proof showing that PD was actually involved in this, nor do I care honestly. Is this what it really has to come down to guys?

Or you're not reading it right as you had issue in another thread earlier. The said user being talked to has seen the facts many times before because this isn't the first time. I'll post up links yet again, but the quote are here on the news feed of GTP and respected gaming magazines/websites.

Involved in what? The user wasn't talking about PD's involvement in this controller if that is what you think we were arguing about. Also I even say that I don't believe Kaz was involved in this and want to see what he thinks about the move controller. So...y

What Facts? Oh that's right there are none.

Sure there are plenty of facts, depends on what you want facts on. Do you want facts on the moon landing, the global economy, what? Doesn't really pay for you to be a smart alec, new user. Instead of casting stones.eah

 

[another_jakhole]

Yeah, I know. They used to make the best TV's on the market. They still price point their consumer electronics as if it's the best. Regardless, SONY have failed to maximize potential PlayStation sales in the current generation.

That's so true.

Probably about 5 seconds to press a button on a keyboard somewhere to activate move support that's more then likely been in the base coding since the days of GT4. Remember the move was originally PS2 technology (there is an awesome Tech demo done at like MIT or some place like that on Youtube) that just didn't end up getting done in-time for the PS2.


Truth is other then the fact that it's probaly pretty lightweight it's not that far off from what most racers use to work their Upper Bodies. I wish I could find a vid on Youtube but I can't. For those that don't know racers often use a barbell weight or a weighted steering wheel and they hold it up in a steering wheel position and pretend to drive, which is no different then this wheel well except this wheel is probaly lighter l0l




Exactly Sony made a product that supports every driving/flying/riding game past, present & future that uses Move.




What Facts? Oh that's right there are none.

dayum 👍

So, how much time did this take away from PD?

People say that about Kaz and the races he competes in.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

People say that about Kaz and the races he competes in.

We don't really hear about Dan from Turn10, whomever from Criterion, SMS, iRacing, or rFactor participating in races. Just to add fuel to that fire.

I think it's great that Kaz is participating. But, I would like more feedback from him [via Twitter] about how all this real life racing is making (or going to make) GT better.

 

[obsessive rules]

We don't really hear about Dan from Turn10, whomever from Criterion, SMS, iRacing, or rFactor participating in races. Just to add fuel to that fire.

I think it's great that Kaz is participating. But, I would like more feedback from him [via Twitter] about how all this real life racing is making (or going to make) GT better.

He personally tested the cars that go into gt5 in real life. Lucky s**t. I wanted to do that job

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

He personally tested the cars that go into gt5 in real life. Lucky s**t. I wanted to do that job

Um how many of them did he test? Also you do know GT games have made up cars, that he couldn't possibly test in real world, GT also has cars that require a super class FIA license to drive in really world. So does Kaz have an FIA super license? Just want clarification.

 

[obsessive rules]

Um how many of them did he test? Also you do know GT games have made up cars, that he couldn't possibly test in real world, GT also has cars that require a super class FIA license to drive in really world. So does Kaz have an FIA super license? Just want clarification.

I've saw a video of him testing various road cars such as the airel atom. I should rephrase it. All cars possible and he's a le mans driver, this may require an fia super license. I don't know.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I've saw a video of him testing various road cars such as the airel atom. I should rephrase it. All cars possible and he's a le mans driver, this may require an fia super license. I don't know.

It does not require one and 24 Nurb =/= 24h Le Mans, he drives the GT-R which isn't even in the same class as the GT3 thus the license to do it in the racing world isn't that high. An FIA Super License is one given to those who are trying to become F1 drivers.

You're original post said he tested the cars, F10 and F2007 are two cars that would require that. Unless he went to the Ferrari track day event for the super rich.

 

[Samus]

I've saw a video of him testing various road cars such as the airel atom. I should rephrase it. All cars possible and he's a le mans driver, this may require an fia super license. I don't know.

Personally I don't see Kaz testing the cars himself particularly important. He's a gentleman racing driver, nothing more. Sure he can feed back the basic information on the car to the physics team but nothing beyond that. I'm much more interested in what professional drivers feed back than Kaz.

 

[Rdp616]

Stay on topic folks..

I already have a Fanatec wheel, so i wouldn't touch this. And i'm sure it would give you the feeling of...Well it wouldn't give you any feeling and it's probably terrible. If you buy this, it only means you couldn't afford a wheel, or just didn't want to spend the money.

 

[awr117]

I think it's great that Kaz is participating. But, I would like more feedback from him [via Twitter] about how all this real life racing is making (or going to make) GT better.

Well, he did add some things into GT5 that he experienced while running the 24hr at the Ring. And even though i feel Sony has been flooding PD with additional request, there are many areas where i feel PD has dropped the ball.

Don't get me wrong. I truly enjoy GT5. But i am really hoping GT6 will deliver what much of us have been expecting. Time will tell. But i'm not going to get my hopes all high this time around.

 

[Samus]

Well, he did add some things into GT5 that he experienced while running the 24hr at the Ring. And even though i feel Sony has been flooding PD with additional request, there are many areas where i feel PD has dropped the ball.

Ironically one thing they got wrong was the 24 Hour Nurburgring race on GT5, filling it with LMP cars as the fastest rather than GT class cars like the real thing. I would honestly love to understand why they did that.

 

[Fisha695]

Sure there are plenty of facts, depends on what you want facts on. Do you want facts on the moon landing, the global economy, what?

2+2=4 because some guy a long time ago decide that, that doesn't make it "fact" it just makes it accepted. Where are the facts that say that PD (or any other developer) had any choice in the matter of to or not to support Move? Where are the facts that this wheel was or was not a Kaz/PD idea? Where are the facts for all of the other crap people seem to be arguing about for what amounts to nothing more then just another controller to move pixels around on a display?

Doesn't really pay for you to be a smart alec, new user. Instead of casting stones.eah

I've actually been here almost a year longer then you have.

You're original post said he tested the cars, F10 and F2007 are two cars that would require that. Unless he went to the Ferrari track day event for the super rich.

A Super License is only required if you are testing said cars in a FIA official session (be it a Race Weekend or official test session like they had the other week). It is not required to test an F1 car in any Non-FIA sessions be it a team testing situation (pretty much outlawed under current regs), track day event, filming day or a promo event like Jeff Gordon & Tony Stewart have done in the past. Another example is Marco Andretti who had two F1 Factory Team tests and did not possess a FIA Super license at the time of those tests.

As for what License Kaz probaly has, I'm willing to say it's the basic FIA International License via a JAF National License. No different then how if you have an SCCA National License here you can get your FIA International License via ACCUS (the FIA ASN for the USA)

 

[obsessive rules]

2+2=4 because some guy a long time ago decide that, that doesn't make it "fact" it just makes it accepted. Where are the facts that say that pd (or any other developer) had any choice in the matter of to or not to support move? Where are the facts that this wheel was or was not a kaz/pd idea? Where are the facts for all of the other crap people seem to be arguing about for what amounts to nothing more then just another controller to move pixels around on a display?

I've actually been here almost a year longer then you have.

A super license is only required if you are testing said cars in a fia official session (be it a race weekend or official test session like they had the other week). It is not required to test an f1 car in any non-fia sessions be it a team testing situation (pretty much outlawed under current regs), track day event, filming day or a promo event like jeff gordon & tony stewart have done in the past. Another example is marco andretti who had two f1 factory team tests and did not possess a fia super license at the time of those tests.

As for what license kaz probaly has, i'm willing to say it's the basic fia international license via a jaf national license. No different then how if you have an scca national license here you can get your fia international license via accus (the fia asn for the usa)

boom!

 

[CSLACR]

Great analogy, care to share what the "factual" answer to 2+2 might be?

Last I checked, 2+2=4 because 1,2,3,4. Not because "some guy a long time ago decide that".

No more silly talk now.

 

[Samus]

Stop the press, there are no longer things such as facts, only 'what people decide'. Mind = Blown.

 

[marcus_war]

I hate motion capture controllers as it is, why would I need a Move wheel?

It's another way to jack you up for new content, only to find out that all that's happened is that you got jacked up and robbed...









Is what I'd normally say with such devices. I might actually try this before I even think about buying it. It looks cool, but it's still no match for a proper wheel. I don't want to waste money if it breaks on the very first day that I buy it. The thing looks cheap. But it allegedly doubles as a biking controller, the only feasible reason why there should be a Tour de France game for PS3.

But, personally, I couldn't care either way. Because if it can't do everything that the Sony reps say it can, then what's the point? The Wii already has an accessory for each game it sells, so from my point of view, it would be too little too late for Sony if this fails.