GT6 "80% finished", GT7 expected in "a year or two" + other info

[IceMan PJN]

If we see GT7 on store shelves by the end of 2015, I will eat my Lewis Hamilton hat. 2016 is more realistic. PD doesn't get anything done in just two years between releases. Heck, GT6 will be three years from GT5 and that's on the same platform.

 

[tankuroded]

I like how some people still assumes GT6 is a GT5.5... Get over yourselves please, you haven't seen the rest of the game yet.

They are just crying this trope.

 

[diegorborges]

I like how some people still assumes GT6 is a GT5.5... Get over yourselves please, you haven't seen the rest of the game yet.

People these days... never happy.

GTA V is near release, some info and gameplay leaked. Game looks magnificent and I still seen some guys complaining.

 

[FT-1]

If 80% takes into account DLC (strongly doubt it though) then I think that's a good figure. If 20% of the day one game isn't complete, that's not bad, but that means a fifth of the game isn't ready. It would be ideal if minor patches were kept to a minimum this time.

 

[Conquerer]

Kaz says it's "difficult to answer" for a reason -- it's difficult to answer! Therefore you can't get caught up on the 80% number. Instead focus on what he said after -- the game modes are finished, but things like physics and UI will be updated to the last minute.

You can't take that 80% figure and apply it across the 3 year gap from GT5 to GT6 and assume it needs the respective amount of time to finish the final 20%. The final 20%, as Kaz implied, is related to things that they are constantly updating.

I'd assume for the type of thinking most people here seem to have, it's probably closer to 90% finished. Major components are surely complete and it'll just come down to tinkering and fine tuning until sometime in November when everything needs to be locked.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

GT6 80% complete at launch is a lot better than 20% complete at launch like GT5. GT6 is looking a lot better at launch than GT5.

 

[tinram]

"Facelift" and "20% complete like GT5". Some comments are hilarious, and needs to be moved to the "epic whining thread."

 

[NCRthree]

If Kaz had said 79%, I'd be very concerned. 80% sounds pretty promising. Now 81%...mind blowing.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I like how some people still assumes GT6 is a GT5.5... Get over yourselves please, you haven't seen the rest of the game yet.

By all means, it seems reasonable to demand all other members share your opinion, right?

Rolleyes indeed.

Going by what we know so far, the jump from GT5 to GT6 is a smaller, more evolutionary jump than we witnessed on the older consoles.

 

[CAMAROBOY69]

GT6 is what GT5 should have been IMO. So yes it makes perfect sense to call GT6 GT5.5 or even..........GT5.
I am personally looking forward to GT6. But it truly feels like GT5 to me. I try to forget about the original GT5 launch.

 

[PepeMickey]

I like how some people still assumes GT6 is a GT5.5... Get over yourselves please, you haven't seen the rest of the game yet.

You haven't played it yet either but you seem to be very comfortable with your statements. Do you know something more than what we know?

 

[Farrow]

There is no way they have spent 3 years making GT5.5. I'm sure there will be more to it.

 

[McLOVIN5489]

If it was truly gt5.5, it would be done by now.20% left in 3 months negates the "facelift" notion... Not reading too much into the number, but due dilligence would not be required for a game as similar to its previous title as some of you keep implying.... It's gt6, and I'm ready for it.

 

[sneakypete123]

What worries me about Kaz when he makes statements like "Things like the game modes; I can say that those are complete."

And then goes on to say something about developing a mobile app so people can text each other :/

He's ambitious which isn't a bad thing but it just seems to me that he's too busy trying to reinvent the wheel and coming up with new ideas and not focusing on what people want/need.
Its almost as if he looks back at things that worked well in the first 4 titles and assumes that its still good enough today.

I hope I'm proven wrong when the game comes out, but I will be disapointed if we get a re-hashed a-spec mode but Kaz announces he has big plans for crap we may never see/want/use.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

My issue with the GT5.5 comments is that it's not only a pessimistic view of things, but some people saying that are already condemning GT6 before it's even out and before more info is revealed, which we will get at TGS next week. Once GT6 is out and it doesn't meet your expectations, then go ahead and call it GT5.5. I won't care. I might even join you if it doesn't meet mine. But in the mean time, it's not fair to judge so soon.

 

[sangdude82]

the GT6 car list isn't known (just like the rest of everything else)

Yeah, I wonder when Kaz will release the complete list of the new premium cars that will be on GT6. Also, may be He can gives us a little info with what We can expect with the first DLC (just like Turn 10 does).

 

[Kino321-X]

There is no way they have spent 3 years making GT5.5. I'm sure there will be more to it.

^ Agreed. Kaz did say that he wanted about 2 more years developing GT5, so you could expect features that didn't make the cut to be fully implemented in GT6. From various interviews and hints, we can probably expect a simple livery editor, engine swaps (he did say it was possible), more customization options (not fully reveled yet), and of course the seemingly immense Course Maker. Whether they achieved the breakthrough for sounds and AI is still unknown, but I'm really expecting TGS to be a blowout reveal in terms of overall core features.

I feel like I'm in the minority by saying this, but I have complete faith in Kaz and his team. Yes, they may seem disorganized and lack total focus at times but the overall product has always been stellar in my book. Gran Turismo moves millions of units every iteration. It sells consoles. These guys are one of the most talented and passionate people in the industry. They definitely know what they're doing.

 

[sangdude82]

If we see GT7 on store shelves by the end of 2015, I will eat my Lewis Hamilton hat. 2016 is more realistic. PD doesn't get anything done in just two years between releases. Heck, GT6 will be three years from GT5 and that's on the same platform.

I agree with you. As we know, ps4 is a lot easier for the game developers to work on their stuff compared to ps3 but I reckon it will take at least 2.5 - 3 years for GT7 to come out on ps4.

 

[TokoTurismo]

By all means, it seems reasonable to demand all other members share your opinion, right?

Rolleyes indeed.

Going by what we know so far, the jump from GT5 to GT6 is a smaller, more evolutionary jump than we witnessed on the older consoles.

It's not because I'm demanding other mambers to share my opinion. I'm just finding it funny to even assume GT6 a GT blah blah. >_> I'm not even sure what some of you are even expecting from a game that's on a 7 year old console...

But if one still want to assume its GT5.5, whatever, be my guest.

You haven't played it yet either but you seem to be very comfortable with your statements. Do you know something more than what we know?

Are you serious?... I'm just like everybody else who doesn't know what GT6 has in store (yet). So how would I know?

Do you know any? Oh wait, that's right, no you don't also...

 

[FT-1]

Are you serious?... I'm just like everybody else who doesn't know what GT6 has in store (yet). So how would I know?

That's his point. You haven't seen, let alone played, the final product, so making a judgement (whether it is GT5.5 or something totally different) at this stage is pointless.

 

[Griffith500]

Sorry man, I was just taking a cheap shot at the fact that whenever Kaz says something that's slightly wacky people jump up to interpret it in a way that's more positive.

And I know you're not really that guy, so ignore me. I was just being an asshole, but I've had a beer now and I'm feeling much better.

No problem, I was probably being overly defensive anyway. 👍

By all means, it seems reasonable to demand all other members share your opinion, right?

Rolleyes indeed.

Going by what we know so far, the jump from GT5 to GT6 is a smaller, more evolutionary jump than we witnessed on the older consoles.

I don't really know about the "jump" being smaller, since my recollection of previous second-bites were that they were, more-or-less, "more of the same".

The fact that PD are arguably focusing on the "core" elements might make things seem that way, but because those elements affect everything, it might add up to a much larger difference than what appears "on paper".

 

[DaveTheStalker]

I wouldn't be surprised if he meant they are "80%" through the last phase of development: tying it all together and checking it all plays nicely together, and doesn't accidentally the moon.

The lack of talk of a PS4 version of GT6 at this point could be taken as a promising sign that they've got everything in the game they wanted in it. Potentially; cautiously...

I doubt we will see Motorstorm level of damage though.

 

[Griffith500]

I doubt we will see Motorstorm level of damage though.

That's not something they are aiming for with this release, as far as I can recall. Kaz said the damage will be unchanged, in fact. I was talking more about the breakthroughs in AI and sound etc.

 

[diegorborges]

My issue with the GT5.5 comments is that it's not only a pessimistic view of things, but some people saying that are already condemning GT6 before it's even out and before more info is revealed, which we will get at TGS next week. Once GT6 is out and it doesn't meet your expectations, then go ahead and call it GT5.5. I won't care. I might even join you if it doesn't meet mine. But in the mean time, it's not fair to judge so soon.

Good post! 👍

 

[TokoTurismo]

My issue with the GT5.5 comments is that it's not only a pessimistic view of things, but some people saying that are already condemning GT6 before it's even out and before more info is revealed, which we will get at TGS next week. Once GT6 is out and it doesn't meet your expectations, then go ahead and call it GT5.5. I won't care. I might even join you if it doesn't meet mine. But in the mean time, it's not fair to judge so soon.

It seems this is the excat view as I have, but I wouldn't be able to word it properly. Good post indeed. :tup:

 

[DaveTheStalker]

Calling it GT5.5 is really insulting, considering we are at GT5.215(?). Motorstorm level of damage would be incredible. But other aspects would have to be dialed way back. I'm wondering if they at least expanded the damage rally cars have to other race cars or all of the Premiums.

 

[ShiftingGears]

What worries me about Kaz when he makes statements like "Things like the game modes; I can say that those are complete."

And then goes on to say something about developing a mobile app so people can text each other :/

He's ambitious which isn't a bad thing but it just seems to me that he's too busy trying to reinvent the wheel and coming up with new ideas and not focusing on what people want/need.
Its almost as if he looks back at things that worked well in the first 4 titles and assumes that its still good enough today.

I hope I'm proven wrong when the game comes out, but I will be disapointed if we get a re-hashed a-spec mode but Kaz announces he has big plans for crap we may never see/want/use.

Agreed.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I don't really know about the "jump" being smaller, since my recollection of previous second-bites were that they were, more-or-less, "more of the same".

Indeed, they tend to be - I think we can both agree there's not much room to reinvent when you're putting yourself in the sim-like console racing genre - but GT2 and GT4 had a bit more "more of the same", if that makes sense, than GT6 . Again though, that's only going by what we know so far.

The fact that PD are arguably focusing on the "core" elements might make things seem that way, but because those elements affect everything, it might add up to a much larger difference than what appears "on paper".

Oh, I do consider that, and to be fair, most of my criticisms with GT5 start with those core elements, so that's encouraging 👍

Car list wise, it's a much smaller jump than those two games enjoyed over their predecessors. Physics have changed with every single game, and that really should be expected. The two biggest changes outside of physics that I can think of with GT6 right now are the potentially massive Random Course Generator, and a bunch of fantasy cars made by the automobile companies themselves instead of PD. TGS is likely to hold a few surprises of course, and so will December...

 

[TetreRouge]

Shades of the "we can release whenever we want" line from GT5, perhaps? I'm hopeful Kaz has learned to not give these percentages unless he's sure the deadline will be met, though.

I'm curious if these new physics will be at the JFF next week, seeing as how it's pretty much the same time as TGS...

Wasn't GT5 delayed as a result of an executive decision to fix a massive error of some sort? I recall reading about it on this website. They'll have the sense to avoid whatever error it was so I doubt we'll see another string of delays.

 

[machschnel]

When do they start actually producing GT6 discs? A month, two months out from release date?