Like I said in another thread, what exactly are the signs of a 2013 release? Those 'leaked' rumors by Kotaku? Because it's not going to be announced until E3 that year at the earliest and it's very unlikely they will release the console that same year, 6 months later.
Also you seem to be suggesting GT and Forza games sell their respective consoles and without them they would flop. That's clearly not true as four years of PS3 without a proper GT game and good but not mindblowing sales of the Forza franchise didn't do them much harm.
Sony lost a staggering amount of market share from PS2 to PS3. Something like 25%! That is billions in revenue for a company whose stock is currently tanking...
Sony will not allow their next console to arrive much later, if any later, than xbox. If they do, their goose may be cooked again as xbox has more momentum as it is.
1) Multiple sources have confirmed developers have next gen xbox kits in hand -- for the last 2-3 months, actually, if it is a big developer. I know that isn't Sony but the 'can't be late' premise pertains here.
2) Developers are working on next gen tech and games and we are seeing it more an more. E3 is showing several early game demos that are clearly next gen titles in play... 1313, the square FF tech demo, the Unreal Engine 4 tech demo debuting publicly tomorrow night. There may be more. All the DX11 heavy demos are next gen console games or tech in a very light disguise. Sure, Watch Dogs may come out on this gen but it will not look like the DX11 demo that blew everyone away! You'll also see this one be a launch/near launch next gen title. Developers were ready to show next gen if they had to due to the console makers announcing... but they didn't have to. Some did anyway
3) Next year, tablets will have caught up or passed current gen specs. Smart phones aren't too far behind. Consoles need to move forward technically (cutting edge) to continue to differentiate from this very real incursion into the gaming space from Apple etc.
I don't think next gen will be announced at E3 next year. I think it will be done separately, probably post holiday season. Microsoft will get Spike TV or MTV to do a special on it-- introduce it publicly in Q1 2013 after selling a ton of 360s at Christmas 2012. Then build up to E3 as the full coming out party.
Sony will have to follow suit, or risk losing more share, particularly in the US.
Of course this is speculation to a point. But it is informed speculation. The companies could both hold off another year until 2014... but I would bet 80/20 that one will squeeze the trigger and the other will be pressured to follow in 2013. And if Sony holds off as xbox next launches... Microsoft will be very happy.
I don't think next gen will be announced at E3 next year. I think it will be done separately, probably post holiday season. Microsoft will get Spike TV or MTV to do a special on it-- introduce it publicly in Q1 2013 after selling a ton of 360s at Christmas 2012. Then build up to E3 as the full coming out party.
It's not even a tradition. The PS2 wasn't announced at E3, the GameCube wasn't announced at E3, the 360 wasn't announced at E3 and nor was Vita. In the 360's case, it launched six months after it was announced in the same year.paskowitzThis is my theory as well. The tradition unveil at E3 and release next year schedule will not be followed next gen.
Right, but that wasn't anything to do with GT or Forza, all about them launching too late.
Can you show me this evidence? Not that I don't believe you, I've just genuinely not seen 100% proof of anything.
Also any ideas when they got dev kits for the previous consoles, how far in advance? I can't find anything googling.
Again a good point, but how can you be sure they were next gen console games in disguise? Couldn't they have been running on PC tech?
Once again true but tablets and phones will still not get close to the core console gaming markets because....they're not a console.
Interesting theory, I suppose that could happen.
It'll be interesting to see how this does pan out.
One other thing... Jack Tretton from Sony spoke yesterday about wanting the best console... not just being first to market
That tells me that Sony is in no rush to launch the PS4
MSFT, on the other hand...
Wow... I am spending too much time on this!! Here goes
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-04-03-next-gen-consoles-mean-increased-development-costs
It will be interesting. Again, above is informed speculation.
Sony is in a rush to "right the ship" . Their stock, a few days ago, was at the lowest point it had been in over 25 years!
That means they need to make smart choices across all business units and the games business is their best bet to anchor them, so to speak. PS3 is not hurting like the TV business is, as a example. If they make a bad strategic choice about launching, they make a poor situation worse. This all adds a ton of pressure onto the PS4 system and launch choices.
MSFT, on the other hand, has momentum in the games sector and a large war chest of cash to support next gen.
Just speaking on the gaming side of things. Has technology advanced enough since the launch of the PS3 to warrant a PS4 within the next couple of years?
With the economy in the tank, would it be wise to rush a next gen system which would probably run between $600 - $800?
I feel the PS3 is at the middle of its life span. 2014 seems a bit soon to me. I think we are more likely to the PS4 around the 2016 time period. I still feel GT6 will be launched on the PS3. History would prove that point. 2 GT titles per gen.
calahanif they want money they will release GT6 on PS3, because they working not for charity
maybe they didn't want take too long for releasing 1 game in PS4 because they now had another competitor (forza)
there's no DLC again now so probably they focusing develop the GT6
If the ps4 came out next week it would sell in its millions, and so would gt6. In my opinion the ps3 is not the system to showcase a game like gt6, it can only just handle gt5!
SlashfanIt's coming out for PS3. Get it through your thick heads. Kaz said it will be MONTHS ago because it's easier to build off of GT5 than recoding.
SlashfanIt's coming out for PS3. Get it through your thick heads. Kaz said it will be MONTHS ago because it's easier to build off of GT5 than recoding.
It's coming out for PS3. Get it through your thick heads. Kaz said it will be MONTHS ago because it's easier to build off of GT5 than recoding.
Get it through your thick heads.