GT6 News Discussion

[lancia delta hf]

There's no issue with buying ingame credits, some people cannot play 4 to 8 hours per day, if they want to experience the content they bought, let them pay for it again!, it's their choice. I don't and those people have no impact on my experience at all.

Fixed.

So explain to me why this cant be done for free? If players dont have time to grind (Work is a grind, should a Game be?) then why cant they have access to the full contents of the game they just payed for? Why are sony/pd charging for something that has no man hours behind it, DLC track=manhours/craft/skill/resources, Credits=Freemoney for sony/nothing given in return, Just a few digits changed

People who are saying they cant see why others dont like it is because they are pd's lapdogs and will gladly fall for these antics, They are the same people who slate day 1 DLC but will change their view and defend PD when they eventually do it,

Also it is my fear that this will impact everyone if its a success which it will be because a fool and his money are soon parted, The game will in futer be built to frusterate you and make progression slow as hell so you are essentially forced to buy credits or dump the game, If anyone has played clash of clans then they will know the tactics that are used to make it a slow proccess without buying in game money.

Even if they dont go that root its still low charging customers something that hasnt had any work put into it.

Come on guys bring on the excuses and whatnot

 

[CoolColJ]

So judging from the previews -

We still have bad aliasing and poor AI :/
And same old bumper car reactions...

 

[Johnnypenso]

Thanks @CoolColJ for the translation. This part worries me:

If the player has obtained enough stars, it can then move to the upper group, unlocking faster cars and new tracks

If we have to run ASpec in order to unlock tracks, I'm not going to be able to fulfill my desire to avoid it altogether and that'll be a major bummer

 

[lancia delta hf]

I thought you weren't buying gt6? Why are you still hanging the forums if that is the case? It's a bit sad tbh.

If there is anyone who needs to go away its not him, It seams that you cant handle it if someone states that they are not happy with something pd are doing i.e opening up avenues for unearnt money, Has he hit a nerve? Why do you talk as if he's been disrespecting a close family member as many others do on here when they rightly point out pd's faults, He is a customer and doesnt have to blinldy buy every gt installment without question and it doesnt mean he cant have an interest in developments just because he's making you realise your beloved baby Kaz and gt arent perfect.

You can turn them off. Just sayin'...

There's also a handy Ignore feature, if your so inclined!

Perhaps you should aim that at the person who really needs that advice?

 

[sepulturite]

If there is anyone who needs to go away its not him, It seams that you cant handle it if someone states that they are not happy with something pd are doing i.e opening up avenues for unearnt money, Has he hit a nerve? Why do you talk as if he's been disrespecting a close family member as many others do on here when they rightly point out pd's faults, He is a customer and doesnt have to blinldy buy every gt installment without question and it doesnt mean he cant have an interest in developments just because he's making you realise your beloved baby Kaz and gt arent perfect.


Perhaps you should aim that at the person who really needs that advice?

You got all that from what I said there? Wow, go you! Your not even close lol

 

[TB]

Perhaps you should aim that at the person who really needs that advice?

Simply general knowledge, not aimed at anyone in particular. Although the ignore feature works best when done on both ends, otherwise you're more or less talking to yourself.

 

[lancia delta hf]

Thanks @CoolColJ for the translation. This part worries me:



If we have to run ASpec in order to unlock tracks, I'm not going to be able to fulfill my desire to avoid it altogether and that'll be a major bummer

Dont worry man, I can foresee that PD will have a legitimate plan for you, Their plan will involve you buy more stars on psn store so you can unlock tracks.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Thanks @CoolColJ for the translation. This part worries me:



If we have to run ASpec in order to unlock tracks, I'm not going to be able to fulfill my desire to avoid it altogether and that'll be a major bummer

I'm not to happy about that....

 

[Nato_777]

Dont worry man, I can foresee that PD will have a legitimate plan for you, Their plan will involve you buy more stars on psn store so you can unlock tracks.

Now that I would have a problem with!

I still think it's too early to condemn PD for the credits thing yet until we see how it works and how much real $ is required for the credits. If the credits earned in-game are dialed back so as to make people more inclined to purchase them then yes that is a problem. If not and the overall progression is not in any way compromised by it then I don't see it as a problem at all - just another option for anyone willing to pay for it (personally I don't see why you would but each to their own & all that).

 

[lancia delta hf]

You got all that from what I said there? Wow, go you! Your not even close lol

Yes, You seam to particularly have a problem with him not being happy with this new plan from pd, Why must he no longer post in here just because he's not buying the game any longer and you say so?

Simply general knowledge, not aimed at anyone in particular. Although the ignore feature works best when done on both ends, otherwise you're more or less talking to yourself.

But the guy you quoted it at was the one who was being contested when he was expressing himself, He never invited anyone to leave the thread because he didnt like reading what they post, It seamed like you were picking a side especially when there was a poster more fitting for you to quote your post with, Thats the way it seamed to me hence why i replied to it

 

[Tenacious D]

Man of strong principles which is respectable 👍, but let's be honest; as soon as you step out of your door, you are surrounded by corporations and multinationals that want to suck every last penny out of you, whilst they give you the bare minimum in return...

General trend sadly.

If you had said "governments," I'd agree with you. Businesses need you to be economically viable and have some kind of spending money, but governments don't care. Especially the liberal ones, because utopia is expensive as hell. But well worth it for your sake.

About the A.I., I've heard that the bots in the early races are much like the ones in GT5 and the Academy demo, fairly easy to beat for the casuals. According to Jordan in his hands-on trial, who evidently raced in more serious series, the bots were a nice challenge. So I wouldn't fret too much.

About unlocking tracks, GT4 worked that way in the early stages through license tests and the progression tree. I wouldn't worry too much about Mario Stars or anything.

 

[sepulturite]

Yes, You seam to particularly have a problem with him not being happy with this new plan from pd, Why must he no longer post in here just because he's not buying the game any longer and you say so?

But the guy you quoted it at was the one who was being contested when he was expressing himself, He never invited anyone to leave the thread because he didnt like reading what they post, It seamed like you were picking a side especially when there was a poster more fitting for you to quote your post with, Thats the way it seamed to me hence why i replied to it

This is all from a discussion from earlier on, of which you weren't around for I gather, that is all.

 

[lancia delta hf]

Now that I would have a problem with!

I still think it's too early to condemn PD for the credits thing yet until we see how it works and how much real $ is required for the credits. If the credits earned in-game are dialed back so as to make people more inclined to purchase them then yes that is a problem. If not and the overall progression is not in any way compromised by it then I don't see it as a problem at all - just another option for anyone willing to pay for it (personally I don't see why you would but each to their own & all that).

My only concern about the credit thing is that it will eventually effect gt single and thus online too, If it never and pd said yu will still be able to obtain credits quickly and without having to go back and re-win races before you've even moved onto the next stage then pd can charge all they want for credits for all i care, I wouldnt be impessed with it but so long as it doesnt ruin my game experience then im good

 

[Gravitron]

The judging and insulting needs to stop now.

 

[crowhop]

My only concern about the credit thing is that it will eventually effect gt single and thus online too, If it never and pd said you will still be able to obtain credits quickly and without having to go back and re-win races before you've even moved onto the next stage then pd can charge all they want for credits for all i care, I wouldn't be impressed with it but so long as it doesn't ruin my game experience then I'm good

This is a legit concern. I think it is 50/50 that the games' economy will, to some degree, depend on the purchase of credits.

But how will we judge it? In GT5 the economy was off, but the XP system was far worse. If leveling up isn't incredibly difficult, the economy will take care of itself to some extent.
So long as we are supplied with "enough" to do to keep us from having to repeat events multiple times, it will be fine.

 

[diegorborges]

Another day closer to release, another day of complaining.

Me, I'm just sitting here patiently awaiting my first epic laps around Bathurst. Simply cannot wait.

This is how you boys should be feeling.

That's how I feel too. Simply can't wait!

And for some of you it's time to see the cup half full perhaps? And it's more than half-full this time:

- We're getting the game WITHOUT DELAYS
- Tons of new tracks, with time/weather change, etc
- 120+ new cars
- Totally new physics
- Totally new and faster menus, UI, etc
- Lots more customization options

And much more...

We are so near the release. Damn, I can't wait to throw an Alpine 110S at all those beautiful Ascari corners. It will be beautiful!

 

[IDCI]

At the end of the day, I'm still looking forward to play some gt6.

 

[Imari]

About the A.I., I've heard that the bots in the early races are much like the ones in GT5 and the Academy demo, fairly easy to beat for the casuals. According to Jordan in his hands-on trial, who evidently raced in more serious series, the bots were a nice challenge. So I wouldn't fret too much.

Yeah. The real AI unlocks at level 40.

Does anyone even remember GT5?

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Wow, a lot of things have been coming up within these last few days when I was busy.

I'm honestly not too bothered about the buying credits thing either, I'll just ignore that personally and play through the GT mode the same way I've been doing in the other 5 main games.

The AI though does bother me a bit. Oh well though, that's something I'll have to wait and see on 12/6.

 

[RACECAR]

Gotta love when the translation is off a bit.

Miniskirts confirmed.

Sexy

Yeah. The real AI unlocks at level 40.

Does anyone even remember GT5?

I don't know who said that, but I thought it was ridiculous. Unlocking AI? Who imagined that?

 

[lalaurentide]

Fixed.

So explain to me why this cant be done for free? If players dont have time to grind (Work is a grind, should a Game be?) then why cant they have access to the full contents of the game they just payed for? Why are sony/pd charging for something that has no man hours behind it, DLC track=manhours/craft/skill/resources, Credits=Freemoney for sony/nothing given in return, Just a few digits changed

People who are saying they cant see why others dont like it is because they are pd's lapdogs and will gladly fall for these antics, They are the same people who slate day 1 DLC but will change their view and defend PD when they eventually do it,

Also it is my fear that this will impact everyone if its a success which it will be because a fool and his money are soon parted, The game will in futer be built to frusterate you and make progression slow as hell so you are essentially forced to buy credits or dump the game, If anyone has played clash of clans then they will know the tactics that are used to make it a slow proccess without buying in game money.

Even if they dont go that root its still low charging customers something that hasnt had any work put into it.

Come on guys bring on the excuses and whatnot

Guess what? It's the least of two evils, they either make everything free and kill career mode, or they let people buy credits if they want to. Personally I think Forza has the answer, unlock every car and track in arcade mode, but PD is Japanese and has a weird sense of pride disguised as honor so they won't admit Turn10 is right.

I'm very worried about DLC practices, but buying credits isn't one of them. No publisher will ever use micro transaction as the meaningful way to progress in a 40-60$ game, it would alienate the players, get awful reviews and lose them more money. We all had to grind XP in GT5, running an X1 at the Indianapolis endurance for hours, but money was never an issue when you played the game, but some people cannot play the game, they have 2 hours per week and if they want to pay cents to buy the car(s) they want, more power to them, and to PD/Sony to live in reality.

 

[05XR8]

Thanks @CoolColJ for the translation. This part worries me:



If we have to run ASpec in order to unlock tracks, I'm not going to be able to fulfill my desire to avoid it altogether and that'll be a major bummer

Before the free GT5 updates. We had to do the AMG Academy to unlock the Nurb tracks and Top Gear test to unlock that. Those were at a high level 24? I wonder how many races we have to do to get a star for good behavior.

 

[RedBaron]

It looks like they furtherly developed aspects of the game that were almost perfect (graphics). But those big issues remain unchanged (AI, sounds, race system). Classic PD.

New physics is the thing I am most awaiting and because I gave up to GT like a game, it will be again perfect for hotlapping a car on Nordschleife. Full HD projected on that 6m wall. With friends. And beer. Till morning...

 

[SagarisGTB]

some Euro previews doing the rounds - google translated

http://www.eurogamer.it/articles/2013-11-18-gran-turismo-gt-6-prova-preview-anteprima

Really not liking what I'm reading about the simulation mode. I don't want to be premature, but it's looking increasing like most of my enjoyment with this game will have to be created online. Which is a shame as GT3 and GT4 had great simulation modes, but it looks like PD have since taken to catering to casuals instead of than building on what they already had.

 

[NanoSaibou]

Yes, You seam to particularly have a problem with him not being happy with this new plan from pd, Why must he no longer post in here just because he's not buying the game any longer and you say so?

But the guy you quoted it at was the one who was being contested when he was expressing himself, He never invited anyone to leave the thread because he didnt like reading what they post, It seamed like you were picking a side especially when there was a poster more fitting for you to quote your post with, Thats the way it seamed to me hence why i replied to it

This Room is a room for news and discussion, people who want the game and are excited for it and want to talk about it, not for someone that just wants to drag down the whole lobby into a bad mood and be so pessimistic about the whole game just because of one single feature of a game you can or not use.

 

[ironman44321]

It looks like they furtherly developed aspects of the game that were almost perfect (graphics). But those big issues remain unchanged (AI, sounds, race system). Classic PD.

New physics is the thing I am most awaiting and because I gave up to GT like a game, it will be again perfect for hotlapping a car on Nordschleife. Full HD projected on that 6m wall. With friends. And beer. Till morning...

Both the AI and sounds have been improved according to Jordan (the AI more than sounds but better sounds are supposedly on the way). I also don't know what you mean by "race system"?

 

[Zlork]

AI is something I want to see myself.

I don't trust journalists, especially after seeing how they were driving at E3, Gamescom, etc.. On this point, I have more confidence in Jordan. Yes, AI will not be perfect but on current-gen, others games are no better.

Or Podi built an adaptive AI. But it is unrealistic ....

 

[TokoTurismo]

AI is something I want to see myself.

I don't trust journalists, especially after seeing how they were driving at E3, Gamescom, etc.. On this point, I have more confidence in Jordan.

Agreed. I believe more from Jordan unlike those other journalists. (who also SUCK at driving even though they drive irl...).

And besides, isn't there going to be the final final build on Dec 2nd, while the one from the Willow Springs event is final (beta)? I rather see the game for myself too.

 

[sk8er913]

Agreed. I believe more from Jordan unlike those other journalists. (who also SUCK at driving even though they drive irl...).

And besides, isn't there going to be the final final build on Dec 2nd, while the one from the Willow Springs event is final (beta)? I rather see the game for myself too.

www.gameswelt.tv/gran-turismo-6/hands-on-event-in-muenchen,37318?mode=2

New AI, in arcade mode, probably defaulted onto the easiest, or middle setting. @Zlork @ironman44321

 

[Jordan]

Let me re-iterate what I said in my preview:

They no longer drive as “ducks-in-a-row”, as we saw in almost every race in GT5. They were actually racing with each other, going two – and once nearly three – wide into corners. When challenged with a pass, they didn’t put up too much of a fight, but some of them (not all drivers exhibited this behavior) actually fought back to pass me again, despite no major mistakes of my own.

This gave the racing a different and more challenging feel. I felt like I would need to push and drive defensively if I wanted to get ahead and win.

Of course, the artificial intelligence is still not perfect (and likely never will be), and many will continue to criticize the other drivers when they bump into you while holding their line through a corner. However, it’s a significant step forward for the series in an area which has rightly bothered many fans for years.

I thought it was much better than GT5, which I always felt had no AI at all - just a bunch of cars driving around a track that you had to catch up with. GT6 is much better than that, but the average consumer/journalist is still not going to be impressed (especially if they're not playing in Professional mode, as @sk8er913 noted), and the usual suspects will complain about it after their first race. My point is that it was better.

Every time I've played GT6, I've approached the game assuming that everything is the same as it was in GT5, then look for the deviations from that. Others will play it assuming that it will match their expectations or desires for their "perfect" game, and then judge it based on that criteria.