As for single player, I find it hard to call something "quality gameplay" as long as the AI isn't up to snuff. Which, at least so far, was not the case (in my opinion).
This statement does sound like typical marketing speech - and I kind of hope it is. I mean, if that was truly what PD are thinking of Gran Turismo, that wouldn't be a good sign at all, in my opinion. You can argue about there being quality gameplay, but the realism of the game? Okay, it does look pretty convincing in some situations, especially in screen shots. But the physics weren't outstandingly realistic, the sounds aren't, the structure of the career mode isn't, the AI isn't - and so on. So, yeah, if it's just PR talk, it's to be expected. Everybody needs to talk their stuff up to sell it, right? If that's what Sony and PD truly believe... Well, not good. Not good.
True, there's no reason to not be confident. Sony's got the sales, but sales shouldn't mean much to anyone around here. Unless you're a stockholder of Sony's, obviously. Popularity and sales aren't what makes a game good. In fact, one could argue that overwhelming success might lead to complacency.PDI develops the a racing simulator that outsells all other comparable titles out there and has for over 15 years. Not many companies out there can boast about having a 10 million units sold game this generation.
PDI/GT are embraced by the automotive and motorsport industry and both were very apparent at the 15th Anniversary "event". Look how many journalists showed up too.
With all that said, of course there is going to be some confidence displayed by Sony representatives when hyping up the next version of GT.
PDI develops the a racing simulator that outsells all other comparable titles out there and has for over 15 years. Not many companies out there can boast about having a 10 million units sold game this generation.
PDI/GT are embraced by the automotive and motorsport industry and both were very apparent at the 15th Anniversary "event". Look how many journalists showed up too.
With all that said, of course there is going to be some confidence displayed by Sony representatives when hyping up the next version of GT.
The point is, good sales are no proof for quality. Otherwise, by the same logic, one would have to argue that Justin Bieber is one of the best music artists out there. Or that the Toyota Corolla is the best car ever. Or that Jersey Shore is a great show. You get the idea
Yeah, that is a bit odd how so many have taken a Sony executive's words to heart and pretty much put them in the mouth of PD. Of course Sony are going to have a different take on the whole thing.
The point is, good sales are no proof for quality. Otherwise, by the same logic, one would have to argue that Justin Bieber is one of the best music artists out there. Or that the Toyota Corolla is the best car ever. Or that Jersey Shore is a great show. You get the idea
Yes, but consider that GT5 has sold more than one million new units since December. This is with all the bad press and used games all over the place. If you haven't heard of the issues in GT5, you either crawled out of a jungle or have been in a coma for three years. You may not think much quality is there, but a few million people seem to think otherwise. And a lot of us are still playing GT5 after three years. I've been doing almost nothing but Arcade races, in which the only reward is the race itself. And cycling still through my Standard car garage, trying rides I haven't got around to yet. And I have some excellent PC sims and my 360 once again gathering dust.
So, it does not get the point across that there is more to something being popular than it being good? Like, compelling rhetoric? Economic circumstances? Well, wait, you said yourself that these things influence what's popular, not just whether it's good! Who would've thought...
Have I made the point that people are playing Gran Turismo even though they dislike it? Well, no, I haven't.
A lot of people agreeing with you makes you right, then? Tell that to Galileo.
How, then, can sales be considered a measure of quality if they're based on personal opinions, likes, dislikes and preferences? Weeeeeell... They can't, which is what I've been saying, even though you (and some others) aren't getting that through their thick skulls, it seems.
Oh, I get along well with guys liking Gran Turismo. I don't get along well with guys that feel the need to defend it to the bone, even if I didn't even say that the game is bad or anything of that sort in this current argument - just that the majority vote doesn't necessarily make you right. Because the majority vote is not always gotten due to objective quality, but due to a plethora of reasons (which you pointed out yourself, mind you).
Never knew I was bound to a law someone came up with somewhere on the internet. Sorry.
Disprove it, then. By delivering undeniable proof that sales and, by extension, popularity is an objective way to measure quality because it is not affected by anything besides quality. Prove to me that I have to like Justin Bieber because his music oozes with undeniable, objective quality, which can be measured by the sales he achieves. Proof to me that I have to like Coca Cola best because it sells more than lesser known brands, because those sales are undeniable, objective proof of it being the best lemonade out there. Deliver proof that I have to like the Toyota Corolla best because its sales figures proof that it is the objectively best car in the history of mankind.
I have to say, that one is, at times, a bit off-putting for someone who's native language isn't English. I don't think I'm good enough at it to participate in some of these debates
As they say, it's not over until the fat lady sings. And if GT6 isn't what I'd like it to be, I'll be sticking my head into the GT7 section of GTP once that one's open
Wasn't the argument at hand about GT5's A-Spec mode? A point of criticism Kazunori seems to agree with. Apologies if I missed the bit where someone was talking about GT6's A-Spec mode.
It's all right. The quote was made about GT5's A-spec.....2.5 years ago. That quote was posted by me.
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