GT6 News Discussion

[Samus]

I just love how the person who made it went to the trouble of editing in the PD logo and all the Sony stuff but didn't bother removing the Slightly Mad intro or WMD stuff.

 

[photonrider]

I'm hoping more for some confirmed news about a final DLC for GT5 - then I can assume that there will be no more GT5 - and possibly the release of something new - a.k.a. GT6.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

lol, I still can't believe Kaz mentioned DLC in that July 1st interview with the Spanish PS Blog (and yet we've heard nothing since!). Feels like forever ago. Never hang onto his words, my friends.

 

[thelvynau]

lol, I still can't believe Kaz mentioned DLC in that July 1st interview with the Spanish PS Blog (and yet we've heard nothing since!). Feels like forever ago. Never hang onto his words, my friends.

I think he needs to learn more about communication.

 

[TokoTurismo]

lol, I still can't believe Kaz mentioned DLC in that July 1st interview with the Spanish PS Blog (and yet we've heard nothing since!). Feels like forever ago. Never hang onto his words, my friends.

I don't believe any words Kaz saids, because he knows he isn't gonna do it... But if he did make another DLC, it'll be half 🤬 like the last one.

 

[thelvynau]

I don't believe any words Kaz saids, because he knows he isn't gonna do it... But if he did make another DLC, it'll be half 🤬 like the last one.

Maybe he does it because he doesnt understand what effect its happening. Maybe he is arrogant that we will put up with it and still spend our money or maybe he has something huge in the works we just dont know.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Maybe he does it because he doesnt understand what effect its happening. Maybe he is arrogant that we will put up with it and still spend our money or maybe he has something huge in the works we just dont know.

It'll be funny if he releases it when Horizon comes out. That's some plan he's attempting there, like he did to FM4.

 

[thelvynau]

It'll be funny if he releases it when Horizon comes out. That's some plan he's attempting there, like he did to FM4.

Wow if that happened imagine the gt6 vs forza horizon threads lol.

 

[avens]

I think he needs to learn more about communication.

I think he needs to have a talk with his team, and lay off some if necessary.

With so many half assed things still in GT5 it's safe to say they haven't finish one game in 8 years and counting. Can't do PR with that.

 

[IceMan PJN]

It'll be funny if he releases it when Horizon comes out. That's some plan he's attempting there, like he did to FM4.

I'm not sure what that would accomplish. It looks like yins are talking about some GT5 DLC here and nobody who wants Horizon is going to skip it because of some GT5 DLC. Horizon wouldn't even notice.

 

[another_jakhole]

Since GT5 has been out, has PD released updates to try to take advantage and expand on most of the new things like Top Gear, NASCAR, WRC, Super GT, weather/time change tracks, etc?

No. Most of these things are still shallow experiences and get little attention in the game. What they choose to update instead reveals where their priorities are.

So you expected GT5 to be like what GT HD was supposed to be?

Are you going to ignore that they managed to improve the physics and graphics (especially the Standard cars' visual quality)? I was surprised that they did that, but since those aren't about extra content, you'll ignore them.

And
What about Kaz acknowledging that there are too many duplicates (something I considered to be a non-issue unlike the lack of support for the G25/27 steering wheels) and too few events? You say we now know what their/Kaz's priorities are as if this can't be debated.

Ask the question, "He acknowledged the lack of events, so why hasn't anything been done?" Add-ons like you're suggesting are simple. Guess what though? We'd have to pay for them. Seasonal Events obviously don't make up for that even though it's still appreciated. If they're so terrible and boring, would you prefer for it to never have existed? Were the standard car interior views that pointless (despite the minimal interior detail in the race cars and couple of street cars)? Is the rewind/fast-forward replay function a crap addition (even though it was more than likely created as efficiently as possible)?

You already feel that PD was obligated to work on GT5 post-release. GT6, a sequel/product, will have more content. All of that is obvious. Why should GT be the only series/brand that is forced to add free content, intended for the next game/product, to the most recently released iteration?

You're saying, "No, look at what the updates tell us."
I say heh? So look at what GT3 didn't bring, then at what GT4 brought. Look at how GT5 started off like with GT5 Prologue, a demo/beta of GT5, and its updates http://eu.gran-turismo.com/gb/support/d4186.html. Now look at the Product of that and its updates http://gran-turismo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_updates_to_Gran_Turismo_5. Viewing the contents of each "game's" updates, the similarities and differences are obvious. Ever wonder, like I have, why GT5 Prologue had as much extra content as it did and why we had to pay for most of the extra content/DLC in GT5? Kaz is in charge, so let's blame him, he must be the devil.


Basing your negativity on one unfinished game's updates while ignoring the quality of past iterations and what GT5 Prologue's updates brought? You had a good point, then I remembered that you guys almost never do. You're simply always backing each other up when you feel like ranting.

Oh, boy. When I first joined, I heard nothing but the people I argued with telling me, "Source, please", and nothing more when they had no good argument. That was their way of defeating anything I had to say and by sticking together ALWAYS and never admitting that they were out-of-line. Now that that's kinda over with, you're mostly using false assumptions and basically claiming that you're speaking the truth while backing each other up.


I have a bookmarked post of amar212 replying to Muionaniolailala, which is a PURE coincidence, that's so very similar to what I'm talking about.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7321296#post7321296

I have it bookmarked partially for GT5's specs/features.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=7218043#post7218043
Another one to "prove" I'm not stalking Muoinlknialija. I'm stalking amar .


TL;DR
You're wrong, because Stone Cold SAID SO!

I greatly appreciate the fact that Jordan & the rest of the staff of GT Planet are able to report on things like this, but I think it really says something that we are getting more news GT Academy than on the actual Gran Turismo games. After all, none of this would be possible without the games.
Not blaming anyone here for lack of game news, except for PD and their frusturating habit of keeping everything a freaking secret. Open your mouth Kaz!

For 🤬 sake, it's a business, he's "important", so I'm glad he writes anything on his Twitter wall.

 

[axl54]

@jackhole calm down m8, it's just a videogame, not everyone loves it, and Kaz/Pd in the same unconditional way that you do

 

[Samus]

Don't mind another jakhole, he feels a strange need to defend the game to the nth degree.

 

[Tornado]

For 🤬 sake, it's a business, he's "important", so I'm glad he writes anything on his Twitter wall.

You shouldn't be. It is nice that Kaz uses his personal Twitter feed for GT5 news since we don't have any otherwise, but there should actually be GT news somewhere at an official capacity; and him occasionally talking about GT5 or GT6 amid his Twitter updates doesn't make it a replacement for such.


When PD changes things in patches, they should say what they changed. When they plan on making major changes to the game structure or design, they should say that they are going to (before they do it, preferably). When they are implementing some DLC differently than it had been in the past, they should say that they are when they release it. To say nothing about their nasty habit when they are hyping something to keep things vague (possibly because of translation problems, but for a top tier development studio of a top tier game franchise translation problems shouldn't really exist in the first place, let alone be allowed to run rampant) and then never touching on them again (not even to clarify) until they release whatever they were talking about (Remember how they had about a year to say something to explain what the original interview about Standard cars was trying to say, and we still found out pretty much everything when the game was leaked a few weeks early instead? Because I do.). PD even has several outlets for doing so, but they don't use them.

 

[1241Penguin]

Are you going to ignore that they managed to improve the physics and graphics (especially the Standard cars' visual quality)? I was surprised that they did that, but since those aren't about extra content, you'll ignore them.

Improved... from GT5P to GT5 or GT5 v1.0 to GT5 v2.0?

Because either way, bandage fixes don't work. The Standard cars are still subpar compared to Premium cars, and the physics aren't good enough to justify the comparatively poor gameplay.

If they're so terrible and boring, would you prefer for it to never have existed?

Ask the question, "He acknowledged the lack of events, so why hasn't anything been done?" Add-ons like you're suggesting are simple. Guess what though? We'd have to pay for them. Seasonal Events obviously don't make up for that even though it's still appreciated.

You just answered your own question. Yes, they do somewhat fix the lack of events in GT5, BUT, it's not the best solution possible. In the past, PD have been able to create good events in their GT games, most notably GT4 (and even GT5P).

There is so much more PD could do with the Seasonal Events. It probably takes, what, 10 minutes to actually program a Seasonal Event race, and yet we only get 1-3 every week. It's hard to see why PD hasn't created more, because if they did, I'd be 90% sure that people wouldn't even remember the lack of events problem in GT5.

Were the standard car interior views that pointless (despite the minimal interior detail in the race cars and couple of street cars)? Is the rewind/fast-forward replay function a crap addition (even though it was more than likely created as efficiently as possible)?

As above. With the Standard cars interior, granted, that was probably all they could've done, given that they had to use whatever they could.

But, with the rewind and fast forward, they could have done it so much better. Yes, it's better than nothing, but that doesn't mean it's perfect, and it definitely doesn't mean that there is no room for improvement. I'm looking at rewind/fast forward functions in recent NFS games, Codemasters games, and FM4. Why, in GT5, do we have a rewind/fast-forward function that only skips to the next sector in the track? Chances are they could've done more; allow us to rewind/fast-forward replays like the rewind/fast-forward functions on the games I just listed above? Where there is a lot more freedom in adjusting the replay?

You already feel that PD was obligated to work on GT5 post-release. GT6, a sequel/product, will have more content. All of that is obvious. Why should GT be the only series/brand that is forced to add free content, intended for the next game/product, to the most recently released iteration?

Well, for one, GT5 was essentially incompletely at the beginning. For starters, we didn't know of the concept of Standard cars at all until a few months (weeks?) prior to the release of GT5. You could say we were lied to.

You're saying, "No, look at what the updates tell us."
I say heh? So look at what GT3 didn't bring, then at what GT4 brought. Look at how GT5 started off like with GT5 Prologue, a demo/beta of GT5, and its updates http://eu.gran-turismo.com/gb/support/d4186.html. Now look at the Product of that and its updates http://gran-turismo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_updates_to_Gran_Turismo_5. Viewing the contents of each "game's" updates, the similarities and differences are obvious. Ever wonder, like I have, why GT5 Prologue had as much extra content as it did and why we had to pay for most of the extra content/DLC in GT5? Kaz is in charge, so let's blame him, he must be the devil.

I'm looking at the Standard cars. I'm looking at how long it took before they got interior views. I'm looking at how long it took for them to have to ability to change wheels.

Not too keen on your last remark, FYI.

Basing your negativity on one unfinished game's updates while ignoring the quality of past iterations and what GT5 Prologue's updates brought? You had a good point, then I remembered that you guys almost never do. You're simply always backing each other up when you feel like ranting.

And why are you ignoring what we currently have?

Ranting? Hardly.

Oh, boy. When I first joined, I heard nothing but the people I argued with telling me, "Source, please", and nothing more when they had no good argument. That was their way of defeating anything I had to say and by sticking together ALWAYS and never admitting that they were out-of-line. Now that that's kinda over with, you're mostly using false assumptions and basically claiming that you're speaking the truth while backing each other up.

GT5 is incomplete because of Standard cars. FACT.

Have a party.

For 🤬 sake, it's a business, he's "important", so I'm glad he writes anything on his Twitter wall.

I just wished he told us something about the apparent spotting of PD people recording car sounds from the Hyundais. I just wished he told us a bit more on GT6's development. Though I'm not saying he should be like Lady Gaga, given the language barrier, but at least he can give more frequent Tweets, even if it's in Japanese.


Honestly, if GT6 continues to have these traits, especially ones where you could look at it and think "what the hey, they could've done so much more" it'll be a sign that GT is not progressing any further.

 

[TokoTurismo]

For 🤬 sake, it's a business, he's "important", so I'm glad he writes anything on his Twitter wall.

Yeah, okay. Like Kaz's Twitter will make things better. Pff, he hardly talks about the game anyways. What we need is a official forum where we can actually speak with one of the employees at PD.

Having them to be silenced without at least speaking with the fans is utterly annoying.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

Another Japanese seasonal! Whoa! I've never seen this before.

Out of all the possibilities, it's another JP event.

Why not a NASCAR event on Daytona Road Course?

Why not an LMP event on La Sarthe?

Why not Italian Supercars?

Mustang VS Camaro?

Corvette VS Viper vs Ford GT?

British supercars?


The monotony of GT5 is literally overwhelming. This series is in a free fall, it seems. Sales say no, but the direction of the seasonals, lack of DLC, terrible A-spec, etc, is concerning. Been a long time fan, but I would love to see someone else take the reigns of GT. Or maybe a new and upcoming series will take over.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Another Japanese seasonal! Whoa! I've never seen this before.

Out of all the possibilities, it's another JP event.

Why not a NASCAR event on Daytona Road Course?

Why not an LMP event on La Sarthe?

Why not Italian Supercars?

Mustang VS Camaro?

Corvette VS Viper vs Ford GT?

British supercars?


The monotony of GT5 is literally overwhelming. This series is in a free fall, it seems. Sales say no, but the direction of the seasonals, lack of DLC, terrible A-spec, etc, is concerning. Been a long time fan, but I would love to see someone else take the reigns of GT. Or maybe a new and upcoming series will take over.

I know how you feel man. Not even Rally with the co-driver on tarmac...

 

[another_jakhole]

You shouldn't be. It is nice that Kaz uses his personal Twitter feed for GT5 news since we don't have any otherwise, but there should actually be GT news somewhere at an official capacity; and him occasionally talking about GT5 or GT6 amid his Twitter updates doesn't make it a replacement for such.


When PD changes things in patches, they should say what they changed. When they plan on making major changes to the game structure or design, they should say that they are going to (before they do it, preferably). When they are implementing some DLC differently than it had been in the past, they should say that they are when they release it. To say nothing about their nasty habit when they are hyping something to keep things vague (possibly because of translation problems, but for a top tier development studio of a top tier game franchise translation problems shouldn't really exist in the first place, let alone be allowed to run rampant) and then never touching on them again (not even to clarify) until they release whatever they were talking about (Remember how they had about a year to say something to explain what the original interview about Standard cars was trying to say, and we still found out pretty much everything when the game was leaked a few weeks early instead? Because I do.). PD even has several outlets for doing so, but they don't use them.

I was going to change "glad" to "appreciate". I honestly don't disagree that they should explain further about a lot of things and that we shouldn't have to wait till the day of to find out we're getting an update, but to me, I don't see what that'll change. I get anxiety like crazy and it isn't exactly great that the communication is lacking. The reason I'm fine with, or don't let the lack of communication affect me is that it simply won't do anything but appease people's minds.

It would be awesome if they/Kaz let us know directly what tracks they're working on and what updates they have/had planned for the future. Complaining about it won't affect Kaz's position and his views, since after all these years he hasn't altered that practice.

I didn't know until I saw a video interview with Famine (I think it was that interview) at Gamescom 2010, before GT5 released obviously, that Kaz wanted a "simplified" interior view for Standard cars, but he scrapped it since he didn't like the look of it. He never told us that directly, regardless of how interested we were in the reason behind there not being a cockpit view for Standard cars with GT PSP having them the way he and us wanted it. Motorcycles, also, might have been implemented into GT4 had it not been for hardware limitations. *Kaz is lying* Yea, whatever.

@jackhole calm down m8, it's just a videogame, not everyone loves it, and Kaz/Pd in the same unconditional way that you do

No thanks. I'll take a seat when THEY stop posting like THEY do. And it's not just a video game. If anyone reads that literally like THEY always do, save yourself the time and don't reply. Recently, it's been decent and dare I say, boring around here, with the inevitable jab at Kaz and constant "CorvetteConquer - More Japanese races…this is new AND exciting!" which was why I haven't posted much lately feeling that I didn't need to get involved with such petty thoughts. CC's actually been the "worst offender" with Muyonoinla being Muoinoanonkla.


I was going to say when I made the comment about how some of these guys walk in packs to back each other up and how it used to be that I needed proof whenever I said anything, that Toronado was the only one that I butted heads with that usually/always had something to back up what he said, even though those were some of the harshest arguments I've had with a fellow member and one of few, if not the only person, to somewhat shut me down. The ONLY reason I didn't mention that was, because I had a feeling he'd reply to that long post I made. You'll know when I'm raging/ranting when someone tells me to calm down, because I'll be saying, "Leave Kaz alone, you batch!". :|

Well,
My point is, I was 100% right about how THEY, not Toronado, travel in packs, although it's always been blatantly obvious. As I kept on seeing that the "last post made by" show that it was a "member" of THEY , I couldn't help but laugh a little. SERIOUSLY, I was going to make a comment about how someone was going to break down my post like, "Oh, I (we) got you NOW!". I'm just going to have to ignore them. It never gets old.

When I mention/point out how many sales GT5 has thus far, I know THEY! look at it like "quantity /= quality" and other such things. My point always is that I'm pointing out how relevant GT/5 still is despite the constant "GT5 is the biggest flop in the series" and then, "GT5 is only selling well, because of its name". GT5 is relevant to this day, since it LITERALLY has been selling as well as it was one year ago. The most recent PS3 + GT5 bundles only helped it jump a few thousand out of 15-20,000 copies sold each week. There I go again being as unbiased as I know how to be on this subject.

I don't know. Have a good day/night, THEY.

 

[machschnel]

Are you going to ignore that they managed to improve the physics and graphics (especially the Standard cars' visual quality)? I was surprised that they did that, but since those aren't about extra content, you'll ignore them.

They "improved" the game to a level it should have been at on release, how nice of them.

What about Kaz acknowledging that there are too many duplicates (something I considered to be a non-issue unlike the lack of support for the G25/27 steering wheels) and too few events? You say we now know what their/Kaz's priorities are as if this can't be debated.

WOW GUYS Kaz acknowledged a mistake. Did nothing to fix the mistake, but did acknowledged it... pffft. How did these mistakes get past Polyphony's famous QA department anyhow?

You already feel that PD was obligated to work on GT5 post-release. GT6, a sequel/product, will have more content. All of that is obvious. Why should GT be the only series/brand that is forced to add free content, intended for the next game/product, to the most recently released iteration?

Once again, if Polyhony released a finished game, there would be no need to finish it later. And don't think for a second we are getting updates/patches out of the kindness of Kaz's heart - if it wasn't for Forza, we'd get jack.

Basing your negativity on one unfinished game's updates while ignoring the quality of past iterations and what GT5 Prologue's updates brought? You had a good point, then I remembered that you guys almost never do. You're simply always backing each other up when you feel like ranting.

What's the past got to do anything?

For 🤬 sake, it's a business, he's "important", so I'm glad he writes anything on his Twitter wall.

If it's "business", why does he use the same medium as my twelve year old sister to converse with us? Unfortunately, Polyphony is now a anachronism. Their methods, whether it be menu design or public relations, fall short of what modern standards dictate as necessary.




another_jakhole?

Too right.

 

[Gejabo]

So we're discussing GT5 in the GT6 news and discussion section?

 

[thelvynau]

Yes this has taken a interesting turn.

 

[Samus]

No thanks. I'll take a seat when THEY stop posting like THEY do. And it's not just a video game. If anyone reads that literally like THEY always do, save yourself the time and don't reply. Recently, it's been decent and dare I say, boring around here, with the inevitable jab at Kaz and constant "CorvetteConquer - More Japanese races…this is new AND exciting!" which was why I haven't posted much lately feeling that I didn't need to get involved with such petty thoughts. CC's actually been the "worst offender" with Muyonoinla being Muoinoanonkla.


I was going to say when I made the comment about how some of these guys walk in packs to back each other up and how it used to be that I needed proof whenever I said anything, that Toronado was the only one that I butted heads with that usually/always had something to back up what he said, even though those were some of the harshest arguments I've had with a fellow member and one of few, if not the only person, to somewhat shut me down. The ONLY reason I didn't mention that was, because I had a feeling he'd reply to that long post I made. You'll know when I'm raging/ranting when someone tells me to calm down, because I'll be saying, "Leave Kaz alone, you batch!". :|

Well,
My point is, I was 100% right about how THEY, not Toronado, travel in packs, although it's always been blatantly obvious. As I kept on seeing that the "last post made by" show that it was a "member" of THEY , I couldn't help but laugh a little. SERIOUSLY, I was going to make a comment about how someone was going to break down my post like, "Oh, I (we) got you NOW!". I'm just going to have to ignore them. It never gets old.

When I mention/point out how many sales GT5 has thus far, I know THEY! look at it like "quantity /= quality" and other such things. My point always is that I'm pointing out how relevant GT/5 still is despite the constant "GT5 is the biggest flop in the series" and then, "GT5 is only selling well, because of its name". GT5 is relevant to this day, since it LITERALLY has been selling as well as it was one year ago. The most recent PS3 + GT5 bundles only helped it jump a few thousand out of 15-20,000 copies sold each week. There I go again being as unbiased as I know how to be on this subject.

I don't know. Have a good day/night, THEY.

Paranoid much?

When will you realise people have a different opinion to you and are entitled to that opinion? You're only wasting your own time with your constant walls of text as a crusade to rid the world of negative speech against GT5 and PD.

 

[thelvynau]

Isnt negative feed back good? It helps the series get better nothing is perfect.

 

[Samus]

I just don't get him, he seems to have an obsession with shooting down anyone that says anything negative. I mean this current crusade started just because someone said this:

Since GT5 has been out, has PD released updates to try to take advantage and expand on most of the new things like Top Gear, NASCAR, WRC, Super GT, weather/time change tracks, etc?

No. Most of these things are still shallow experiences and get little attention in the game. What they choose to update instead reveals where their priorities are.

Is he wrong in saying that? No, most of it is pure fact ended with an opinion. But another_jakhole wasn't happy with it and decided to start his crusade about how he was wrong, going into his usual PD/Kaz defensive mode. Now he's getting paranoid and labelling anyone with something negative to say "They". As if we're all a group out to get HIM and gang up on him.

I honestly wonder why, I bet if a PD developer was on this board he wouldn't go to the lengths he does to defend the game and PD.

 

[bzking23]

ok can we get back on topic with GT6? has anyone heard any information on the two (or three) added tracks?

 

[Samus]

Double post, delete.

 

[thelvynau]

ok can we get back on topic with GT6? has anyone heard any information on the two (or three) added tracks?

Hmmmm? Oh my god this is the gt6 forum?

Im lost!!!!!

 

[Samus]

ok can we get back on topic with GT6? has anyone heard any information on the two (or three) added tracks?

No. Our only hope of hearing anything about GT6 this year is at TGS in a couple of weeks. If we don't see anything there then a) it won't be a PS3 game and b) it means we could be waiting for god knows how long before we do see anything.

 

[Adam41]

I don't think GT6 will be at TGS and I think it will be a PS3 game.