GT6 visuals

[Eager Snake]

I don't know people.
I've always looked and played other racing games not just for the fun of it, but in a later stage to made a comparision between physics and graphics.
This is just my honest opinion, but for me, besides for example of the 2D trees, Gran Turismo always looked better than any other sim.

Even with pCars, the only big and real difference for me is the cloud system in the visual aspect, and to be honest ONLY in some cases.
Gran Turismo always looked solid. I would love to see a proper damage system with that...

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Aiming alittle too high there mate ,I'd genuinely be surprised if it comes close to PCARS, especially the rain effects and the environment.

Only concern I have is the environments, hopefully they will have only "premium" tracks. It will be interesting to see what PD team are capable off and PS4 is first console they will be able to show off on a more equal footing as most other racers will probably be 1080p 60FPS too on it. I think at the moment, my expectations are relatively moderate. I will be surprised in the opposite direction to you, if a GT game on PS4 doesn't look better than pCars at the very least.

Here is rain comparison, I think GT5 looks more realistic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDEaZ2hQ2qY

 

[dimangelogtp]

People i believe that GT always looked better than any other sims for sure , on every console , PD has years of experience and always brings the best to the table.Just think about it GT5 is beautiful , awesome graphics , accurate physics , and brings you a wiiiiiide !!!!!!!! range of cars , it looks like we are spoiled , not even one racing game is perfect but in the aspect of content i think GT always wins . It has a pice of everything .!!

 

[sems4arsenal]

Only concern I have is the environments, hopefully they will have only "premium" tracks. It will be interesting to see what PD team are capable off and PS4 is first console they will be able to show off on a more equal footing as most other racers will probably be 1080p 60FPS too on it. I think at the moment, my expectations are relatively moderate. I will be surprised in the opposite direction to you, if a GT game on PS4 doesn't look better than pCars at the very least.

Here is rain comparison, I think GT5 looks more realistic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDEaZ2hQ2qY

If you look at the pictures posted by Chromatic in the PCARS thread, pictures in the rain are hyper realistic, way beyond GT5's level,but you are right PD seem to suck every last ounce of performance out of a console.

People i believe that GT always looked better than any other sims for sure , on every console , PD has years of experience and always brings the best to the table.Just think about it GT5 is beautiful , awesome graphics , accurate physics , and brings you a wiiiiiide !!!!!!!! range of cars , it looks like we are spoiled , not even one racing game is perfect but in the aspect of content i think GT always wins . It has a pice of everything .!!

Almost every PC sim game recently have a better driving physics and tire model than GT5,graphics in GT5 are inconsistent ,beautiful once (take a lfa around the ring),terrible the other(standard car on a standard track).

Let's wait and see how the improve on GT5, game needs alot of them.

 

[Samus]

Only concern I have is the environments, hopefully they will have only "premium" tracks. It will be interesting to see what PD team are capable off and PS4 is first console they will be able to show off on a more equal footing as most other racers will probably be 1080p 60FPS too on it. I think at the moment, my expectations are relatively moderate. I will be surprised in the opposite direction to you, if a GT game on PS4 doesn't look better than pCars at the very least.

Here is rain comparison, I think GT5 looks more realistic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDEaZ2hQ2qY

As the uploader states that's mainly because the videos are shrunk down into very small size, when you do that with any game it starts looking better. But run GT5 and pCARS at full screen and it's clear which is better. Plus weather effects are far from finished on pCARS.

I really don't know how you expect a PS4 game to look better than pCARS on a top end gaming rig. As good, maybe, but better? I don't see how.

 

[Prototyp3]

Here is rain comparison, I think GT5 looks more realistic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDEaZ2hQ2qY

WOW. GT5 looks and sounds MUCH better.

Project cars is going to fall off the radar imo.

 

[Samus]

WOW. GT5 looks and sounds MUCH better.

Project cars is going to fall off the radar imo.

You think GT5 sounds better? Really? pCARS is not going to fall off the radar and it's not even finished yet. You're judging a final retail product with something 8+ months away from being the same.

 

[MAidioPT]

People i believe that GT always looked better than any other sims for sure , on every console , PD has years of experience and always brings the best to the table.Just think about it GT5 is beautiful , awesome graphics , accurate physics , and brings you a wiiiiiide !!!!!!!! range of cars , it looks like we are spoiled , not even one racing game is perfect but in the aspect of content i think GT always wins . It has a pice of everything .!!

Almost every PC sim game recently have a better driving physics and tire model than GT5,graphics in GT5 are inconsistent ,beautiful once (take a lfa around the ring),terrible the other(standard car on a standard track).

Let's wait and see how the improve on GT5, game needs alot of them.

Did you read the whole Post of dimangelogtp? Because he didnt mention nothing about PC.

I think, if you got a Wheel like the G27 from Logitech, there is no other Game that is so accurate like Gran Turismo 5 on *Console*. Physics are great, the reaction time is great aswell. No other game on Ps3 or Xbox can match that. That keeps me on GT5.

i spenden alot of time on PC aswell, playing LFS, rFactor, and other sims. Was great.

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I hope Gran Turismo 6 has everything we all want. Like a Drag-Mode, Livery-Editor, Body Costumazation (more parts), engine-swaps, etc.

Visual and Physics of GT5 is already very good, but i think its going to be overall better.

 

[MXH]

WOW. GT5 looks and sounds MUCH better.

Project cars is going to fall off the radar imo.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

If you look at the pictures posted by Chromatic in the PCARS thread, pictures in the rain are hyper realistic, way beyond GT5's level,but you are right PD seem to suck every last ounce of performance out of a console.

I have seen them and stuff like the rain drops look much better but that is expected given the extra power or lower frame rate it will be running on consoles like PS3.

I think though from current knowledge about next-gen consoles, a GT game on PS4 will be graphics king by far for many years until developers take full advantage of top end PC GPUs.

As the uploader states that's mainly because the videos are shrunk down into very small size, when you do that with any game it starts looking better. But run GT5 and pCARS at full screen and it's clear which is better. Plus weather effects are far from finished on pCARS.

I really don't know how you expect a PS4 game to look better than pCARS on a top end gaming rig. As good, maybe, but better? I don't see how.

I have run both on full screen, 1080p. You can see where pCARS is better due to hardware power or target frame rate but visually you can see the higher quality assets of GT5.

PS4 will have something a bit better than 7850. 7850 can play pCARS maxed out visually at 1080p AFAIK, depending on how much post-processing you do so can vary from 30-60FPS. Sure if you have say two GTX 690 in SLI you will have higher frame rates or resolution but the graphical quality will remain the same. The game will most likely be more optimized soon so even on a 7850, you will start getting higher frame rates than you currently do.

The reason why I say better is, PD will have a bigger budget, will most likely have a more efficient graphics engine as well as much higher quality assets with strive for photorealism throughout game.

If you download say this 458 video, which will probably be "pre-alpha", you can see what GT engine designed for PS3 could do: http://eu.gran-turismo.com/gb/gallery/d10555.html

Now imagine what they could do with something that is as powerful as PS4, a game designed to take advantage of visuals for target system from the ground up. PD have always had to make games highly limited due to consoles and frame rates they aimed for but PS4 represents finally where they are on a equal footing and can show their graphical skills off.

WOW. GT5 looks and sounds MUCH better.

Project cars is going to fall off the radar imo.

Car sounds in GT5 are quite poor in general so I think pCARS will sound quite a bit better in general.

pCARS is unlikely to fall of radar, it so far looks to be coming a long well and given there are not many games like this on consoles, I think it should do OK.

Concern will be competition around release and also console versions frame rate and graphics look in-game might hit reviews compared to PC version but physics seem good so far so should do well.

 

[Samus]

Well in regards to the assets bear in mind many of the pCARS track assets are not final. On pretty much every track trees are still placeholder for example. It was only recently they started proper work on final trees in the Milan circuit.

Anyway this isn't a comparison thread so I'll say no more but certainly wait until pCARS is retail before judging it and how you think a PS4 game might look better.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Well in regards to the assets bear in mind many of the pCARS track assets are not final. On pretty much every track trees are still placeholder for example. It was only recently they started proper work on final trees in the Milan circuit.

Anyway this isn't a comparison thread so I'll say no more but certainly wait until pCARS is retail before judging it and how you think a PS4 game might look better.

Yep, I have seen some tracks come on quite a lot but given how long they spend on tracks, I don't think it will get to GT level on say PS4. We will hopefully get some GT footage on PS4 at E3 this year, don't know how good first GT game on PS4 will look but know there is a lot of potential on that platform to look great.

 

[Griffith500]

Whilst this isn't really the thread for discussing pCARS or PCs in general, I think it's safe to say that a game can (and should, and probably will in the main) look better on a PS4 versus that "same" game on a PC with the "equivalent" hardware. There are multiple reasons for this, the main one being there is only one hardware spec to work to on a console.

This is what makes consoles so great, in my opinion, no multitude of abstraction layers between the code and the semiconductors to handle endless combinations of general hardware, and, despite the platform's obvious advantages, is something PC developers wish for to some extent.

 

[maxpontiac]

Project cars is going to fall off the radar imo.

It has a strong chance of doing so since SMS hasn't exactly been consistent with their games.

but certainly wait until pCARS is retail before judging it

I agree with this. Even if the scores that come out are good, I won't pay for another SMS game until I at least try it first on my PS3.

 

[Prototyp3]

if the rumors are true and GT6 comes out this year Projects cars is done for and will be a faint memory in the history books. That's all I have to say on the subject.

Also, aren't the people making it the people who made the NFS Shift games? I thought they were trash, it's my personal opinion.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Prototyp3; I've accused you of trolling before, but, really?

Project CARS and GT6 are aimed at entirely different markets, generally. GT6, I hate to say, is a bit of an arcade game; or, at least, it's Gran Turismo, a sort of mix-up series.

PCARS is going to be a more serious sim.

Different markets. Stop trolling, start thinking.

I wasn't a fan of your "no race cars in GT5" comments, either. Why do you insist on trolling?

 

[Prototyp3]

Prototyp3; I've accused you of trolling before, but, really?

Project CARS and GT6 are aimed at entirely different markets, generally. GT6, I hate to say, is a bit of an arcade game; or, at least, it's Gran Turismo, a sort of mix-up series.

PCARS is going to be a more serious sim.

Different markets. Stop trolling, start thinking.

I wasn't a fan of your "no race cars in GT5" comments, either. Why do you insist on trolling?

Quote my post where I said no race cars in GT5. I assure you, I've never said such a thing.

GT and Pcars and Forza all all "sims". I'm not trolling, it's a fact that if GT6 comes out this year, that is the game that everyone will buy. It will outsell any other racer released against it 10 to 1.

anyway, this is getting off topic. speaking of GT6, when that comes out I'll bet that it'll look better then project cars.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Quote my post where I said no race cars in GT5. I assure you, I've never said such a thing.

GT and Pcars and Forza all all "sims". I'm not trolling, it's a fact that if GT6 comes out this year, that is the game that everyone will buy. It will outsell any other racer released against it 10 to 1.

So, sales figures are directly proportionate to the value of the game? The fun-to-play aspect? No. Dead or Alive beach party games sell a lot. But, do people enjoy them for anything besides bikinis?

 

[Prototyp3]

Are you comparing GT series to DOA volley ball? I'm saying the sales will leave it in the dust and only a small portion of gamers will talk about it and it will be forgotten. Whereas a series that sells millions and millions every iteration is talked about for years.

Still waiting on the Quote btw.
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edit: anyway, this is the GT6 part of the forum. If you love pcars so much so to your sub-section.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Are you comparing GT series to DOA volley ball? I'm saying the sales will leave it in the dust and only a small portion of gamers will talk about it and it will be forgotten. Whereas a series that sells millions and millions every iteration is talked about for years.

Still waiting on the Quote btw.

I don't care to make people read the painful quote.

Also, Project CARS is likely going to succeed, even though I don't like the choice of cars they've put into that game. I don't see why you think it's going to be a huge failure, just because the majority of the gamers aren't going to play it.

You're not posting evidence, you're posting a very off-topic, very debatable argument based on your opinion; seems like trolling. Especially since this isn't even the first time you've managed to kill a thread with ridiculous off-topic name-tossing of other games.

This is the GT6 forum. We discuss GT6. Where's the problem? I don't give a 🤬 about PCARS. I'm here to read opinions about GT6, not something that belongs in a YouTube video, comparing final build to final build.

In other words, if you want to compare games, compare them on YouTube, showing us the features, and then make sure to compare final builds to final builds, aux apples to apples.

 

[Prototyp3]

I don't care to make people read the painful quote...
Especially since this isn't even the first time you've managed to kill a thread with ridiculous off-topic name-tossing of other games.

You are making **** up. You talked out your ass and can't back it up.

Must be lovely being you, accuse people of things w/o any evidence.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

You are making **** up. You talked out your ass and can't back it up.

Must be lovely being you, accuse people of things w/o any evidence.

Look, I found something even worse:

I think for ps3 they can get things looking better with a drop to 720p and drop total cars from 16 to 12 or even 10.

"Yeah, sure, let's take out MORE cars, out of the races. The races are just too cluttered, with 16 cars at the Nürburgring. Yeah. We can't handle having that many cars. Let's go to 10 cars on the track at once. Like, wow, I didn't see that coming in 2005."

 

[Prototyp3]

Look, I found something even worse:



"Yeah, sure, let's take out MORE cars, out of the races. The races are just too cluttered, with 16 cars at the Nürburgring. Yeah. We can't handle having that many cars. Let's go to 10 cars on the track at once. Like, wow, I didn't see that coming in 2005."

How is that worse? Or trolling?

That post you quoted is me trying to figure out a way that PD can get more power out of the aging PS3 hardware.

Dropping to 720p (and lower in some cases) is something devs have been doing for years this console gen to get their games looking better or to allow 60fps.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Hmmmm, let's see... Maybe they can do that by, I don't know, getting rid of the poor visuals, and adding more cars, and more tracks, and then removing the cutscenes... Just an idea.

Now, I want to hear what other people have to say about GT6 visuals, stop controlling/clogging the thread.

 

[Prototyp3]

Hmmmm, let's see... Maybe they can do that by, I don't know, getting rid of the poor visuals, and adding more cars, and more tracks, and then removing the cutscenes... Just an idea.

Now, I want to hear what other people have to say about GT6 visuals, stop controlling/clogging the thread.

Sure that's an idea, just like my thought is an idea.

LOL, you're blaming me for what you're doing and you never quoted those other posts of mine. Because you made them up.

I already tried to move on and you couldn't.

LOL you silly rabbit, trix are for kids.

anyway, like I was saying, I think that if GT6 comes out on PS3 it's going to be the best looking racer this gen, hands down.

 

[GTPLam]

I hope they don't release GT6 on PS3 because there would be no point visual wise it would just look the same, but if they do I hope they do fix the chrome in this game because it looks horrendous. Especially the texture just doesn't blend in right such as cars with chrome rims and accents

 

[A_Higher_Place]

I think GT6 should come out on PS3. Premium car visuals are fantastic still, for this console generation. Just get rid of the standards.

 

[sems4arsenal]

I hope they don't release GT6 on PS3 because there would be no point visual wise it would just look the same, but if they do I hope they do fix the chrome in this game because it looks horrendous. Especially the texture just doesn't blend in right such as cars with chrome rims and accents

They still might improve it but yes won't see any big difference. Wonder if it is on the PS3,will standard cars return again? ,PD have alot of modeling to do for next generation so they could buy some time and reuse the stamdards again.

 

[MXH]

anyway, this is getting off topic. speaking of GT6, when that comes out I'll bet that it'll look better then project cars.

I don't doubt that as far as the PS3 version goes. With its previous installment being more than half a decade in development and with a hefty budget, it better excel at something.

They still might improve it but yes won't see any big difference. Wonder if it is on the PS3,will standard cars return again? ,PD have alot of modeling to do for next generation so they could buy some time and reuse the stamdards again.

Hopefully not. Can PD really afford another failure such as the standard cars?

 

[sems4arsenal]

I don't doubt that as far as the PS3 version goes. With its previous installment being more than half a decade in development and with a hefty budget, it better excel at something.


Hopefully not. Can PD really afford another failure such as the standard cars?

Yes but have they got another alternative unless they have been modeling alot of cars recently