GT7 and SimHub Tactile discussion
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Mr Latte
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Appreciate your DM and putting faith into what has been discussed.
The timing of this is quite interesting as often in the run up to BF and Christmas I ususally get a flurry of people asking about tactile.
The reality is I have not gone away but I was not focusing on GT7 for a while and though I shared info about these new exciters that released last year and mentioned the new amp option. It gained no real traction by those reading. I understand that gtplanet is not at the forefront for tactile immersion and many of you are quite happy with what may be more standard or basic effects.
I have been working on/off regards effects for a good part of this year with the longterm goal that I would be able to release all the details regards what has become the chosen hardware components towards what I think is the ultimate budget solution and approach. All the effort put into these specific effects with hundreds of hours were made for this solution.
A goal I have had for a long time, was to come up with a solution that is affordable but takes things to another level in the immersion possibilities and offering a quality of tactile experience that is a good step up from what most will be experiencing.
At the same time, unlike many options you go out and buy. These effects will be offered freely to the community that have been specifically created and been built/tested by myself and those that have helped. It will be early in 2025 when things are completed and I will create a thread which covers it in full.
Speaking of those helping, one person does indeed deserve an applaud for keeping me at it...
A while back, out of the blue @q445187 contacted me about the previous DM and effects that were released. I did not even have PS5 connected to my new PC or had been using GT7 for quite a while. Yet his interest and early enthusiasm, encouraged me to pull my finger out and apply some of the recent ideas with effects I had been coming up with for PC titles.
I think within the period of just over a month what we have ended up with and continue to work towards is going to impress a lot of people. A few have been asking me about tactile recently and of course I then mention this hardware and approach. If indeed anyone is interested in helping to get an early access to these effects. Would like the idea in giving feedback to help tune ongoing effects development and take onboard this approach then by all means let me know.
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Mr Latte
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Well Im doing just fine
We know, you are happy with what you have, thats important and I think we are all over the moon for you too.
Unfortunately, aint no convinving you then nor likely now, that the level of immersion you are getting with the effects and settings you shared, are well, mmmmm.
Anyways, I had to take your advice though and become productive with others that actually were not so opposed to admitting they made some less than ideal choices with tactile. Also refeshingly different was that they had no problems returning/selling what they had. Then start buying what was being recommended and get this, they even would appreciate getting hours of help, with well developed effects specifically made to suit that hardware for free.
Gees it turns out I can be nice...
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That’s good you took my advice. Seems you have a little bit to learn yet but you are defintely getting there.Well Im doing just fine
We know, you are happy with what you have, thats important and I think we are all over the moon for you too.
Unfortunately, aint no convinving you then nor likely now, that the level of immersion you are getting with the effects and settings you shared, are well, mmmmm.
Anyways, I had to take your advice though and become productive with others that actually were not so opposed to admitting they made some less than ideal choices with tactile. Also refeshingly different was that they had no problems returning/selling what they had. Then start buying what was being recommended and get thism they even would appreciate getting well developed effects specifically made to suit that hardware.
Gees it turns out I can be nice...
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Lifes all about learning, sharing and getting advice...
I feel so pumped!!!
Some though are just a little head strong or stubborn by nature, perhaps its the way they are and can take time before they might admit to mistakes or begin to see things differently from how they first viewed them.
Hi guys. I've been struggling to get HF8 to work with gt7 for 4 hours now. On HF8 software a can´t find GT7 game then I installed the latest Sim hub, turned off the firewall and entered Inboud Outbound rules, everything according to the video instructions, matched the IP, EVERYTHING. The Sim hub doesn't want to connect to HF8 at all. Then I installed SimHub version 8.2.0 like from the YouTube video, I installed it and when the program opens I simply can't click on anything, it stays as a frozen image with a warning about the firewall and UPD that I set. I have Windows 11 24H2 and really don't know what else to do
Hi guys. I've been struggling to get HF8 to work with gt7 for 4 hours now. First I installed the latest Sim hub, turned off the firewall and entered Inbpud Outbound rules, everything according to the video instructions, matched the IP, EVERYTHING. The Sim hub doesn't want to connect to HF8 at all. Then I installed SimHub version 8.2.0 like from the YouTube video, I installed it and when the program opens I simply can't click on anything, it stays as a frozen image with a warning about the firewall and UPD that I set. I have Windows 11 24H2 and really don't know what else to do
Hi guys. I've been struggling to get HF8 to work with gt7 for 4 hours now. First I installed the latest Sim hub, turned off the firewall and entered Inbpud Outbound rules, everything according to the video instructions, matched the IP, EVERYTHING. The Sim hub doesn't want to connect to HF8 at all. Then I installed SimHub version 8.2.0 like from the YouTube video, I installed it and when the program opens I simply can't click on anything, it stays as a frozen image with a warning about the firewall and UPD that I set. I have Windows 11 24H2 and really don't know what else to do
I tried to connect the router and ps5 wirelessly. it won't either. simhub detects a crash in the settings, it says green COnected, but when starting the gt7 it doesn't work, I tried with another laptop, nothing. Maybe ps5 has released a patch with which it is impossible to connect these things
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I can’t help with wifi. I had another network cable ran to my room so my PS5 and Laptop are direct into my router. I fought with it for over an hour, why won’t this work!
Eliminated the space between both port numbers and voila I was in action. I could be wrong but I believe GT7 always says I need to connect , some red writing down below, it might turn green once I enter a track and get in a car. So make sure you’re not sitting in GT world map waiting for it to connect. Go to a track and sit in the pits or something.
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I'm excited to finally share my new sim rig setup with you all! After a month of collecting parts, I've assembled the following components: GT Omega Titan, Logitech G Pro wheel/pedals, two BST-1 bass shakers (one under the seat and one under each pedal), powered by a Nobosound 50x2 amplifier, and Simagic P-HPR Neo's for the pedals (3). The picture shows my initial setup before adding some additional accessories. Simhub is up and running smoothly, but I'm struggling to achieve desirable haptics.
While I appreciate the vibrational feedback from the sim rig, I find it lacking in terms of translating into a realistic sensory experience - such as feeling sideways or hitting the abs. Despite trying various settings suggested online, I haven't been able to pinpoint an optimal configuration that resonates with me.
I'd love to hear any suggestions or advice on how to improve my haptic feedback. Have you encountered similar issues, and if so, what worked for you? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
While I appreciate the vibrational feedback from the sim rig, I find it lacking in terms of translating into a realistic sensory experience - such as feeling sideways or hitting the abs. Despite trying various settings suggested online, I haven't been able to pinpoint an optimal configuration that resonates with me.
I'd love to hear any suggestions or advice on how to improve my haptic feedback. Have you encountered similar issues, and if so, what worked for you? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
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Welcome to the "rabbit hole"!
Start at the beginning of this thread, learn what you can, don't buy any more haptic stuff yet...
Early next year we are planning on having a guide to get you on track, If you would like, you can PM me and I will give you EXACTLY the correct equipment you need.
We were even able to get SimHub to add NEW effects based on what we are doing, Active Acceleration/Decelleration and Braking.
If it is possible that the BST's are within the return window, you should return them, yes, seriously. I started before I "knew stuff" and bought the obvious (from YouTube) stuff, a ButtKicker, luckily when I found this thread I learned a LOT in a hurry and barely was able to return my BK in the window and I have not looked back since. What you have now is 2 channels that are only capable of 3 effects each without getting muddy.
What you will find as you read this thread (learn to avoid the negative posts) is that SIX channels can be had for the same price as ONE BK! (As I found out), Six channels EACH capable of 3 constant effects, so 18 effects where you now have 6... Trust me on this, HUGE difference.
The picture is of my seat, I now have 8 exciters, 2 more coming to the (sides of) seat and 2 more for the pedals, pretty dang awesome.
Beware, this post may cause great contention, however it is 100% truth.
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Just followed your channel. Like I mentioned in the PM I read the entirety of this thread and it's a lot to ingest. Unfortunately it did take a turn but none the less, a lot to learn from it all. Everything is past the return window so I've got what I got at the moment. Will wait to buy anything else until you get back to me. Thanks!
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Might be a regional thing here at home, but Ive been so up/down with sickness this past 4-6 weeks with various flu/colds and lacking energy. Really sick on Boxing Day with a new vomiting bug too...
Hoping others and your loved ones, are having a better Christmas and wish you well towards New Years.
Apologies to some if responses have been slow or not much coms.
Between the tiredness and also working on my own build Ive not had as much time recently.
@q445187 how well has the dual mono central units been working for you?
Do you find it important to get a well balanced volume in this sensitive region, so they do not feel distracting/annoying?
Cabling:
One of the potential challenges, needed with this approach is working on the cable management.
Several possible options here to look more into. It might be tidier to run the cables of the shoulder and side units, under the ridge at the sides of the seat? Or use open slot cable trunking attached as two channels up the seat?
Also possible with some d.i.y to consider some alu profile lengths, one for left/right sides, or a 120mm wide central piece attached from the base of the seat, rising up adjanent to the back of the seat. Just potential ideas/options to channel cables towards the base of the seat and achieve a more professional look.
Maybe, just one of those things that wont bother some, but might freak others out.
Ive been buying some different cables that come with nice sheathing and banana plugs included. Makes it easier to connect to the amp and help with appearance. Also bought a load of different cable clips to try/test.
Their will be some other ideas shared in time regards cables/connecting which also make it easy if needing to move a rig around to connect/disconnect all the units from the seat. These would be included in the future guide that will be shared but just to point out, Ive been looking and will source various options/ideas.
In Jan I want to do the same with 8x units on the back to one of these seats.
Also for my own rig, going to experiment with an additional 4x units underneath the base section off the seat. See what more can be discovered and achieved.
Hoping others and your loved ones, are having a better Christmas and wish you well towards New Years.
Apologies to some if responses have been slow or not much coms.
Between the tiredness and also working on my own build Ive not had as much time recently.
@q445187 how well has the dual mono central units been working for you?
Do you find it important to get a well balanced volume in this sensitive region, so they do not feel distracting/annoying?
Cabling:
One of the potential challenges, needed with this approach is working on the cable management.
Several possible options here to look more into. It might be tidier to run the cables of the shoulder and side units, under the ridge at the sides of the seat? Or use open slot cable trunking attached as two channels up the seat?
Also possible with some d.i.y to consider some alu profile lengths, one for left/right sides, or a 120mm wide central piece attached from the base of the seat, rising up adjanent to the back of the seat. Just potential ideas/options to channel cables towards the base of the seat and achieve a more professional look.
Maybe, just one of those things that wont bother some, but might freak others out.
Ive been buying some different cables that come with nice sheathing and banana plugs included. Makes it easier to connect to the amp and help with appearance. Also bought a load of different cable clips to try/test.
Their will be some other ideas shared in time regards cables/connecting which also make it easy if needing to move a rig around to connect/disconnect all the units from the seat. These would be included in the future guide that will be shared but just to point out, Ive been looking and will source various options/ideas.
In Jan I want to do the same with 8x units on the back to one of these seats.
Also for my own rig, going to experiment with an additional 4x units underneath the base section off the seat. See what more can be discovered and achieved.
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