GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[newmedia_dev]

Nope, it's fixed. There may be different Low-Speed, Medium-Speed, and High-Speed (as noted by "L", "M", and "H" in the settings) BOPs, but they're standard across the board for every player at every level in each race.

Sorry to put this as a different post.

But do you know why the BoP numbers are the same in most cases? It is weird they have this criteria but rarely change the weight or power between them. Rendering the ratings a little mute?

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I've been busy most of today, so I didn't get a chance to start my slow climb back into SR S land until just now. I ran Daily Race B, and intentionally stayed last (mostly). I got a CRB but only got a 20 percentage point boost. At this rate, it'll take a LOT of races to get back to SR S.

I considered doing Daily Race C, but even the short length of Daily Race B taxed my ability to concentrate, when I'm not racing to compete. So I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and be patient.

I finished P10 because of attrition, and one car that was apparently being driven by blind monkeys, but I only lost 1 DR percentage point, so that was good.

 

[thing]

I wish Race C lasted for a month!! I'm having a blast. At least half the races have 3-4 cars battling to the end. I also like that there doesn't seem to be a true meta...although the Supra is the most common there are numerous different makes in every race. Qual time was set in the Cayman, car gets around the track nicely. Also spent time in the Vette and Mustang...which are both competitive.

I still have trouble when entering the pit sometimes.....pisses me off haha I'm going to try the right wheels on the grass trick.

I've come to the conclusion that swapping tires is worth it. I hate driving on pins and needles the last few laps. Change them and let it rip!! I easily make up the time lost for the tire swap over 3 or 4 laps.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

I've been busy most of today, so I didn't get a chance to start my slow climb back into SR S land until just now. I ran Daily Race B, and intentionally stayed last (mostly). I got a CRB but only got a 20 percentage point boost. At this rate, it'll take a LOT of races to get back to SR S.

I considered doing Daily Race C, but even the short length of Daily Race B taxed my ability to concentrate, when I'm not racing to compete. So I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and be patient.

I finished P10 because of attrition, and one car that was apparently being driven by blind monkeys, but I only lost 1 DR percentage point, so that was good.

Same! I barely had 3 hours to spend on the PS5 and 75% of it was on Ronin... I did have 1 race today at Watkin's - started P14 and ended P12 but was in P8 at the end of Lap 8 but a Glorified Butthole punted me into a wall heading into Lap 9 and finished P12., with tears in my eyes,,

 

[praiano63]

I really don't understand track limits Watkins Glenn race 3. This is position 1 Serrano. If i put both right tires behind the line , i'll take penalty 100% of the time.

 

[TheNormsk]

I really don't understand track limits Watkins Glenn race 3. This is position 1 Serrano. If i put both right tires behind the line , i'll take penalty 100% of the time.
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I agree it is confusing. I'm probably wrong but I have come to the conclusion that for the inside of the bus stop, two wheels needs to remain on track. Having the car completely on the rumble strip will cause a penalty. For the right hand limit, it appears you can put the car completely on the rumble strip but on entry you have the wall to contend with. On exit, as long as you have two wheels on the red/yellow strip I think you are okay.

EDIT: I read elsewhere "keep a wheel in the track at all times except for T1 and the exit of the chicane, where as long as you're on the kerbing you're good".

This makes sense. Need to have one wheel on the track. That's your issue.

 

[praiano63]

I understand now , the whole car can cut over the kerb . Just don't put yours right tires inside the white line.

 

[Jflijohn]

I wish Race C lasted for a month!! I'm having a blast. At least half the races have 3-4 cars battling to the end. I also like that there doesn't seem to be a true meta...although the Supra is the most common there are numerous different makes in every race. Qual time was set in the Cayman, car gets around the track nicely. Also spent time in the Vette and Mustang...which are both competitive.

I still have trouble when entering the pit sometimes.....pisses me off haha I'm going to try the right wheels on the grass trick.

I've come to the conclusion that swapping tires is worth it. I hate driving on pins and needles the last few laps. Change them and let it rip!! I easily make up the time lost for the tire swap over 3 or 4 laps.

I ran about 10 races today, 9 with the same car, I mostly did drive-throughs with no tires. In every race, by lap 9 my left front was completely red and the rest were about 80%. My issue is that I was still producing fastest laps which I don't think should be happening. I was getting a little more drift but it was manageable.
Also, I watched a guy behind me bounce off 2 walls and 2 laps later he was trying to pass me.
If you are going to design a race with a pit stop, make it hurt if you don’t stop. If you crash into a wall at 90 MPH, you shouldn’t still be turning normal lap times.
Drive-throughs got me 3 top 5 finishes, stopping for tires I got nothing higher than 7th. There were other driving error factors in those races though, so it’s not as conclusive as it sounds. The top 5s were really good driving, the others maybe not so much.

 

[Kriptical]

Are you guys noticing a lot of quitting in C? Did a few races today and there were at least 5 quitters by the end of each race. Not something i normally pay attention too but since quits became a side topic of Spa, I decided to keep tabs today. (Haven’t played since sunday cause holiday whatnot). Anyway, the other thing worth mentioning is one of the quitters has always been one of the doorbanging cheap shot artists. Who has taken a swing at me, or someone i’ve witnessed pitting people on the straights or other shenanigans..

Makes me care less about quitting as a valuable metric for a races approval rate.

 

[smcqueen46]

Probably my best race today st WG. Started P8 and got to 6 on lap1 before being punted off the track at turn 7, ending up 15th out of 15. Worked back up to 6 after pitting only to be knocked off again at the chicane on the last lap but was able to hold on to P7 for the finish. Actually picked up some DR for the first time this week!

 

[newmedia_dev]

Are you guys noticing a lot of quitting in C? Did a few races today and there were at least 5 quitters by the end of each race. Not something i normally pay attention too but since quits became a side topic of Spa, I decided to keep tabs today. (Haven’t played since sunday cause holiday whatnot). Anyway, the other thing worth mentioning is one of the quitters has always been one of the doorbanging cheap shot artists. Who has taken a swing at me, or someone i’ve witnessed pitting people on the straights or other shenanigans..

Makes me care less about quitting as a valuable metric for a races approval rate.

Not a massive increase in Europe that I've noticed (unless you count my pole to binning it rage quits this week )

16 start and 13-14 usually finish which is fairly normal I think. Most finish with 16.

Typically the attrition rate is quite low in my lobbies.

 

[bone_tone]

I really don't understand track limits Watkins Glenn race 3. This is position 1 Serrano. If i put both right tires behind the line , i'll take penalty 100% of the time.
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I don't have a problem there - it's turn 1 that confuses me! If I go off track by any margin I get a penalty, yet other drivers seem to get away with it with no penalty.

I saw one guy go so wide that he nearly hit the wall - no penalty. Watching one of the streamers yesterday, every lap the cars were off the track all the way from turn 1 to turn 2 - no penalties.

What's the secret?

 

[newmedia_dev]

I don't usually do morning lobbies but did 3 this morning.

Supra, with tire change no predetermined lap to change just seeing how the race was unfolding (how close was the guy behind/ahead/lap times and general air to fall in to)

Won the first, 2nd in the second and won the last.

 

[Akers]

I don't have a problem there - it's turn 1 that confuses me! If I go off track by any margin I get a penalty, yet other drivers seem to get away with it with no penalty.

I saw one guy go so wide that he nearly hit the wall - no penalty. Watching one of the streamers yesterday, every lap the cars were off the track all the way from turn 1 to turn 2 - no penalties.

What's the secret?

I suspect the secret is to lift off the throttle when you run wide. I haven't tested this theory at Watkins Glen, but discovered this during some damp moments at Spa last week. If I ran wide at Blanchimont but kept my foot down = penalty. If lifted until I got back on track = no penalty.

Also you can run pretty wide at WG T1 provided 1 wheel remains even slightly in contact with the red and yellow curb.

 

[AdxRE]

Haven't got a chance to race in the last 2 days, but did manage one amazing race (for me at least) on Catalunya on Tuesday. The McLaren really lacks ultimate pace there but seems to be stable enough in the race that I can actually make a few confident moves.

This is also the first time I tried to put in some editing and commentaries, and more importantly my throught process during the race to a race video - comments and suggestion are welcome as usual!



I also tried QT for Race A and it seems like a great combo, will try to do some races there later today.

Sorry to put this as a different post.

But do you know why the BoP numbers are the same in most cases? It is weird they have this criteria but rarely change the weight or power between them. Rendering the ratings a little mute?

I think they only just started having different BoP-ed HP and weight between L, M and H speed in the recent (v1.43) Gr.3 BoP, I would imagine they will be doing the same for Gr.4 sooner or later.

 

[Kriptical]

Not a massive increase in Europe that I've noticed (unless you count my pole to binning it rage quits this week )

16 start and 13-14 usually finish which is fairly normal I think. Most finish with 16.

Typically the attrition rate is quite low in my lobbies.

I was a little surprised to see about 10 finishing on avg. Funny thing is it was mostly B’s in my lobbies. Im probably just inhabiting the sweaty cusp lobbies

 

[newmedia_dev]

I was a little surprised to see about 10 finishing on avg. Funny thing is it was mostly B’s in my lobbies. Im probably just inhabiting the sweaty cusp lobbies

I do think that there might be an uptick of people who normally just do Daily B doing C this week and not used to the nature of field spreads and different pit strats so are quitting not realising cars in front haven't pitted etc maybe?

 

[bone_tone]

I do think that there might be an uptick of people who normally just do Daily B doing C this week and not used to the nature of field spreads and different pit strats so are quitting not realising cars in front haven't pitted etc maybe?

I keep hoping that some of the cars in front haven't pitted, only to find they have! 😂

 

[newmedia_dev]

You know sometimes you have to take the 2 for one offer....

 

[Kriptical]

You know sometimes you have to take the 2 for one offer....

That was considerate.

 

[mellofello9]

I suspect the secret is to lift off the throttle when you run wide. I haven't tested this theory at Watkins Glen, but discovered this during some damp moments at Spa last week. If I ran wide at Blanchimont but kept my foot down = penalty. If lifted until I got back on track = no penalty.

Also you can run pretty wide at WG T1 provided 1 wheel remains even slightly in contact with the red and yellow curb.

I've noticed this on other courses as well. T1 at RBR, for instance. If you blow it and end up with four in the paint w/out lifting, you get a penalty. If you hit the paint, LIFT and THEN move on, no penalty. 👍

Any advantage you can find is largely attributable to honing your racecraft, right? If that happens to include gaming the system here and there, so be it.😁

 

[Akers]

I’ve been doing OK at Watkins Glen this week. Top 5’s all bar 1 where I got taken out. Today, I decided to try the NSX, first race a win! Damn hard fought too!🥳

 

[newmedia_dev]

I’ve been doing OK at Watkins Glen this week. Top 5’s all bar 1 where I got taken out. Today, I decided to try the NSX, first race a win! Damn hard fought too!🥳View attachment 1343699

That's a tricky car to use there, the little Alfa is unstable on the down hill elbow I can't imagine the NSX is easy in that section!!!

 

[mellofello9]

That's a tricky car to use there, the little Alfa is unstable on the down hill elbow I can't imagine the NSX is easy in that section!!!

My money is on the longer wheelbase making it a bit more manageable...hoping to find-out here in a bit. Have done ZERO racing throughout the week and am hoping to change that this evening. Bunch of stuff I've wanted to throw at the tarmac there so will be fun to see what shines where.

Just have not had that "MUST RACE NOW" urge that I typically do. Been two+ weeks now. Starting to worry...is "Race Dysfunction" a thing and, if so, is there a little blue pill for that, too???🤣

 

[Chris30]

I rarely use the NSX for any of the B and C races. Or the Viper and Mustang, I feel they don't have enough power to move quick. I need something fast like the Porsche RSR, Mclaren650S or the Ferrari Group 4 car.

 

[newmedia_dev]

My money is on the longer wheelbase making it a bit more manageable...hoping to find-out here in a bit. Have done ZERO racing throughout the week and am hoping to change that this evening. Bunch of stuff I've wanted to throw at the tarmac there so will be fun to see what shines where.

Just have not had that "MUST RACE NOW" urge that I typically do. Been two+ weeks now. Starting to worry...is "Race Dysfunction" a thing and, if so, is there a little blue pill for that, too???🤣

Dude don't sweat it at all, I had life stuff and fell straight back in to it. You'll be fine just stay away from Catalunya unless that's your thing.

I do Watkins because I go fast there and it's literally got my name all over it 🤣

I've only used the 4C and the Supra to much effect, supra works better for me. But have been side by side in the bustop with the mustang, corvette and Citroen oh and the McLaren so I think the world is your GR4 oyster so to speak.

Edit:

The NSX is probably a good shout. @Nebuc72 pulls that out in GR4 TT or daily QT stuff.

Not sure on tire wear?

 

[Chris30]

My money is on the longer wheelbase making it a bit more manageable...hoping to find-out here in a bit. Have done ZERO racing throughout the week and am hoping to change that this evening. Bunch of stuff I've wanted to throw at the tarmac there so will be fun to see what shines where.

Just have not had that "MUST RACE NOW" urge that I typically do. Been two+ weeks now. Starting to worry...is "Race Dysfunction" a thing and, if so, is there a little blue pill for that, too???🤣

Well, what would give you more motivation to race? I haven't really done a lot of races the past 2 weeks either. My total was at 894 races in the Week of March 25th and now I'm up to 907. That's 15 races in about 2 weeks.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Tiny bit ahead @Chris30

 

[Chris30]

I'm confused, huh!? Anyways I got the pole time on Race 5 in Tsukuba. I have the video which I'll post in a little bit if anyone wants to see how I performed last night.

The craziest thing is why do people quit the C races at Watkins? The motto is, if you're not gonna finish the whole race, don't enter it! Enough said.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I'm confused, huh!? Anyways I got the pole time on Race 5 in Tsukuba. I have the video which I'll post in a little bit if anyone wants to see how I performed last night.

The craziest thing is why do people quit the C races at Watkins? The motto is, if you're not gonna finish the whole race, don't enter it! Enough said.

Edit to fix the grammar and sentiment.

The reason people quit is because it doesn't matter.

If you have a life outside of GT it's just a thing, if you are like most of us on this forum and wider community losing a bit of DR or SR is fine. Its easy to get it back, a few clean races and top 10 finishes.

The broader thing is do I want to sit at the back 10 seconds back and not had a pit stop knowing that everyone in front has stopped or not stopped but 23.0 seconds ahead anyways.

And it's ok, everyone gets your DR and SR so no big deal, I just have to do a few races to earn it back. No harm no foul.

It also depends on your dynamic at home. If my wife says I'm holding a tray get the door GT means FA, if my daughter randomly come in the the utility......racing room) then I'll stop for that

It's a tree of prioritisation and whilst this a consuming hobby it's low on the list of things I need to deal with or do.