GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Barney Da Dog]

I hook my right wheels over the line, and drive on the grass on the way in! Only way to guarantee no penalty.

It's probably the same on more, maybe all tracks? I've definitely cut huge chunks off the inner lines at Autopolis and Mount Panorama with no penalty.

 

[Akers]

Well I'm entering the 8:00pm slot at WG, off to my first race! Hope it goes well.

EDIT: Well I finished dead last. I made a huge mistake going in the pit, all I did was refuel and leave and I end up with a 6-second penalty. I had fun during that time period though. I guess from now on I'll just not pit and get the three second penalty at the end of the race. That's what I should have done, but...

Here is the video. What tough luck, I was doing good being in the top 10.

@Chris30 - Cutting across the yellow line for pit entry got you your first 3 second penalty. You need to be over on the right side of the track way before the final turn, before the yellow line begins. You can’t cross it, or even touch it, if you intend to enter the pits. On your video, at 16m 26s as you exit the penultimate turn, you are out on the righthand side curb, you need to stay there as you approach the final right hander. You'll see the start of the yellow pit entry line appear in front of you, you need to stay right of that, don't even go near it, use the grass and curb to your right if you must.
You got the second 3 second penalty when you exited the pits and crossed the yellow line. Upon exiting the pit lane, at 17m 06s on your video, you cross the yellow line, you can see where the line ends at 17m 08s on your video, only after that line ends are you free to move across the track.
Also, I noticed you took fuel which you do not need in this race, you’re just wasting time.
Lastly, the usual penalty for not pitting when it is mandatory, is a one minute penalty, not three seconds.
Good luck with the racing!

 

[smcqueen46]

Well I'm entering the 8:00pm slot at WG, off to my first race! Hope it goes well.

EDIT: Well I finished dead last. I made a huge mistake going in the pit, all I did was refuel and leave and I end up with a 6-second penalty. I had fun during that time period though. I guess from now on I'll just not pit and get the three second penalty at the end of the race. That's what I should have done, but...

Here is the video. What tough luck, I was doing good being in the top 10.

From the GTPlanet discussion of this week's race C: "Failing to stop at all garnishes your race time with a full minute of penalty time."

 

[bone_tone]

It's probably the same on more, maybe all tracks? I've definitely cut huge chunks off the inner lines at Autopolis and Mount Panorama with no penalty.

Yes, that's 3 tracks with a 90 degree turn on pit entry - always tricky!

 

[SPOOLMAN]

The best time I can get on Race A is 1:02:840

I think the rest of the made up time comes down to tuning.

 

[Famine]

I made a huge mistake going in the pit, all I did was refuel and leave and I end up with a 6-second penalty. I had fun during that time period though. I guess from now on I'll just not pit and get the three second penalty at the end of the race. That's what I should have done, but...

Pit entry:

Where you pitted:

Pit exit:

Where you exited:

That's a three-second penalty for each offence, totalling six seconds. If you don't pit you get a one minute penalty, which is ten times larger than the one you got for ignoring the pit lines. This is why we put the advice we do into the Daily Race articles:

As has become the norm for this race, there is a mandatory pit stop which you can take at any time so long as it’s neither before you reach the start line for the first time or as you’re approaching the finish for the final time. You don’t need to take fuel or tires, just head down the pit road — and take extreme care not to exceed the pit lane entry (particularly) or exit limits or you’ll earn a three-second penalty. Failing to stop at all garnishes your race time with a full minute of penalty time.

And, as also noted, you don't need to take fuel or tyres - although given that your worn tyres were costing you three+ seconds a lap, you probably should have taken new tyres instead of fuel.

 

[Chris30]

Ok, thanks for the feedback everyone, next time I won't worry about the fuel, and probably not the tires. But yes 1 minute is much worse than a 3 or 6 second penalty. I was way off on the pit entry. See I didn't get enough sleep either which will lead to mistakes during the race.

I'll start paying attention and reading more detailed and helpful posts from the GT gang. They have helped me on my journey so I'm thankful this website exists.

 

[Talon16]

 

[newmedia_dev]

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C: GT-One/Gr2
B: Gr3
A: Tuned Meme Race....

 

[sturk0167]

I started doing Watkins Glen races yesterday.
I was having problems with the pit entry, but not for the reasons other people have been mentioning.
I did about 10 races with no pit penalties (I stay on the right side yellow line).

The issue I was having is when cars ahead of me are pitting, and I'm not. They take away your line through the final corner.
It does slow you down, but not really a big deal. I think it would make sense to ghost them when they are entering, just like when they are exiting.

In one of my races, it did become a serious problem.

Some cars were pitting, but me and others were not. The car I was following plowed right into one of them, which made me hit him, and then another car hit me. On top of crashing and having a damaged car, the game gave me a 4 second penalty. It said "Causing another car to spin".
I'm the only one who got spun out.

 

[Famine]

A: Tuned Meme Race....

 

[Finch2090]

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Daily Race C: Fuji on Softs.. absolutely despise that map but soft tires indicates something other than GR4 or GR3. Super Formula would be nice but given it’s only softs and 1 mandatory pit makes me think again it’s going to be a short race..

Daily Race B: Hard tires… I do enjoy Deep Forest but it’s hard to get excited about another Point to Point sprint race with absolutely no strategy on hard tires - Going to guess it’s probably 4-5 laps in GR4

Daily Race A: Strange combo. Might run it a few times to get my SR up. I imagine slipstream will be important so might just fall off the back and run my own race a few times just to max out my SR again

I’m honestly starting to lose my interest in GT again. There is absolutely no clear direction what way PD are going with Sport Mode. At this point in time I firmly believe they are asking ChatGPT to provide the conditions for each race every week and that’s it. I could get on board completely with what they are doing if they just communicated that they’re experimenting or that they’re trying something new each week for the time being but without that, it really just feels like they’re phoning it in at the moment I’m afraid

Each race we have 5 eligible compounds yet we are lucky if we get the choice to use more than 1.

IMO they should put more importance on tire management and open every race to have every compound available

I understand what they’re going for with a mandatory pit stop but not having to change the tire just results in everyone running the exact same race everytime, pitting on the same lap altogether, nobody changes tires because there is no clear benefit for doing so

In my opinion - throughout the week, change the track conditions, time, wind, weather etc over the course of the week and make more compounds available - for example if you want to do daily races in the evening - Make the track run on evening time in the game clock - it’s a bit darker, a bit cooler - different tire compounds can last longer on the cool track, maybe different cars will be used etc..

Make it dynamic across the entire week

Instead we get another 10 lap point to point sprint race where everybody uses the same car and runs the exact same strategy everytime. I know I’m not the only one that thinks race strategy should have a bigger factor in race pace than just being good at using the car and understanding the track. It’s just a grind fest at the moment. Similar to track mania

Even grid starts.. again I understand why they do the rolling starts, but at the top splits, Grid starts arent as chaotic and can totally change the order of the grid heading into the opening lap.

It’s just becoming such a boring grindfest at the moment where one small mistake basically ends your race. PD are just doing too much hand holding at the moment and simplifying the game play. For what reason? I’m not fully sure

 

[icycls]

I started doing Watkins Glen races yesterday.
I was having problems with the pit entry, but not for the reasons other people have been mentioning.
I did about 10 races with no pit penalties (I stay on the right side yellow line).

The issue I was having is when cars ahead of me are pitting, and I'm not. They take away your line through the final corner.
It does slow you down, but not really a big deal. I think it would make sense to ghost them when they are entering, just like when they are exiting.

In one of my races, it did become a serious problem.

Some cars were pitting, but me and others were not. The car I was following plowed right into one of them, which made me hit him, and then another car hit me. On top of crashing and having a damaged car, the game gave me a 4 second penalty. It said "Causing another car to spin".
I'm the only one who got spun out.

definitely has also happened to me here, and definitely a problem at watkins to watch for!

 

[sturk0167]

Oh, I just found a new favorite car for Watkins Glen.
As I mentioned, I did 10 races there, yesterday. What I didn't mention, is that every single race was in a different car.
I didn't test anything. Every time I got to turn 1, I was just guessing what the car might do.

This morning, I did some Q laps with the cars I liked best from yesterday. Ferrari 458 Italia was my fastest.
Then I tried one more new car, and blew it away by 4 tenths. That was in the NSX.
As long as it does okay on tire wear, I will just stick with it, all day, today. That should help with consistency.

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• sturk0167
• Apr 4, 2024

 

[TheNormsk]

Oh, I just found a new favorite car for Watkins Glen.
As I mentioned, I did 10 races there, yesterday. What I didn't mention, is that every single race was in a different car.
I didn't test anything. Every time I got to turn 1, I was just guessing what the car might do.

This morning, I did some Q laps with the cars I liked best from yesterday. Ferrari 458 Italia was my fastest.
Then I tried one more new car, and blew it away by 4 tenths. That was in the NSX.
As long as it does okay on tire wear, I will just stick with it, all day, today. That should help with consistency.

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• sturk0167
• Apr 4, 2024

Of your various races, how are you finding pace?

Of the two I did so far, the first race took 17:31.608 and I finished +29.256 back (18:00 for me) and the second 17:41.827 and I finished +13.880 back so around 17:55 for me. Both were with the 4C.

I'm curious on how the cars you used stacked up if you have the results?

 

[newmedia_dev]

With a change and racing up to lap 3 top end ish B lobby

 

[appu]

For Race A this week, is there a way to save and load the car settings? I've been adjusting my car's suspension to match Praiano's tune as closely as possible, but I have to repeat that process every race.

I wish it was a 40-lap race with dynamic weather instead of just 8 laps in dry conditions (I still miss last week's 20-lap Spa race, even though most of my races were dry).

 

[TheNormsk]

For Race A this week, is there a way to save and load the car settings? I've been adjusting my car's suspension to match Praiano's tune as closely as possible, but I have to repeat that process every race.

No, and it is dumb by PD not to implement the ability to save settings for daily races.

That said, my fastest times have been with stock set up but that may have been a unicorn lap.

 

[sturk0167]

Of your various races, how are you finding pace?

Of the two I did so far, the first race took 17:31.608 and I finished +29.256 back (18:00 for me) and the second 17:41.827 and I finished +13.880 back so around 17:55 for me. Both were with the 4C.

I'm curious on how the cars you used stacked up if you have the results?

I haven't even looked at the total race time. I will do that today, and report back.
Probably no more than 15 minutes, I guess.

 

[GTWolverine]

I haven't even looked at the total race time. I will do that today, and report back.
Probably no more than 15 minutes, I guess.

Definitely longer than 15 minutes. I'm doing around 17:30 myself and the quickest I've seen was around 17:25.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Definitely longer than 15 minutes. I'm doing around 17:30 myself and the quickest I've seen was around 17:25.

Watching the A+ lobbies with Henscei and Laporty in them they were doing 1:52s and still about 17:30 if they were racing but if not then 17:23-17:28

 

[TheNormsk]

Definitely longer than 15 minutes. I'm doing around 17:30 myself and the quickest I've seen was around 17:25.

Damn, that's fast. That would be me pulling my QT best lap after lap (allowing for pit and starting).

I have not tried racing the Supra yet but the 4C race pace was around 2.5s/lap slower than my Supra PB.

 

[GTWolverine]

Damn, that's fast. That would be me pulling my QT best lap after lap (allowing for pit and starting).

I have not tried racing the Supra yet but the 4C race pace was around 2.5s/lap slower than my Supra PB.

I've been using the Corvette all week and have no plans to try anything else, but from what I've seen, the 4C needs to be absolutely thrashed to be quick with it, but if you can do it, it's unbeatable with its lack of tire wear. I'm doing mid-low 53s in the Corvette and taking tires when I pit, and if I can have a clean run from pole (which I haven't done since Monday), I can do a 17:31.

 

[Jflijohn]

I have a question regarding BoP, is it dynamic or fixed? By this I mean, is it adjusted differently from DR:A Vs DR:C or maybe based on abilities for each individual race?
Attached is my BoP.
I’m faster on corners, I can pull away from cars fairly easily but they are killing me on straights. But, at the end of each lap we end up with the same spacing ( provided there are no mistakes).

 

[sturk0167]

Of your various races, how are you finding pace?

Of the two I did so far, the first race took 17:31.608 and I finished +29.256 back (18:00 for me) and the second 17:41.827 and I finished +13.880 back so around 17:55 for me. Both were with the 4C.

I'm curious on how the cars you used stacked up if you have the results?

I just did one in an all B/S lobby. I finished at 17:44. 8 seconds behind the winner.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Last race started pole finished last and that's Ok for a few reasons, penalties being the main ones but that's driving over the edge for ya, pitting a fraction to early in to traffic and it was 2s slower a lap traffic. Good for the race craft bad for the lap times.

I should have hung out a bit more as I was consistent time wise but we live and learn on these things.

 

[Famine]

I have a question regarding BoP, is it dynamic or fixed? By this I mean, is it adjusted differently from DR:A Vs DR:C or maybe based on abilities for each individual race?

Nope, it's fixed. There may be different Low-Speed, Medium-Speed, and High-Speed (as noted by "L", "M", and "H" in the settings) BOPs, but they're standard across the board for every player at every level in each race.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Just to add I win or place when I don't drink 2 bottles of wine.....true story.

Don't drink and drive!

 

[sturk0167]

I got a 17:37 from the pole in the NSX.
Theses are the tires, right before the finish. Not too bad. TCS 1. BB +4

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• sturk0167
• Apr 4, 2024

 

[newmedia_dev]

I got a 17:37 from the pole in the NSX.
Theses are the tires, right before the finish. Not too bad. TCS 1. BB +4

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• sturk0167
• Apr 4, 2024

Looking at those tires I don't know why you don't run the supra as it's similar but quicker? Yes a few over steer moments at the end but all manageable.

I tried the 4C and it's just rubbish to extract the time from.