GT7 Daily Race Discussion
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Is there a decent tuning setup for the Aqua for Race A anywhere? I'm losing so much time in the corners compared to others.
I miss the pick up and play of GT Sport, but I think once I understand the tuning, I will appreciate the diversity of setups across the grid. I would like to see one race as a BOP race though each week so people do have that option. The private lobbies are always empty when I look.
I miss the pick up and play of GT Sport, but I think once I understand the tuning, I will appreciate the diversity of setups across the grid. I would like to see one race as a BOP race though each week so people do have that option. The private lobbies are always empty when I look.
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- bone_tone
Had a couple of attempts at Race B, but didn't see any racing at all - ramming at every corner, people driving at ridiculous speeds with no attempt to brake for corners! Thankfully they appear to have reinstated collision penalties - lots of SR downs at the end of each race......
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- Granite_Lw
I'm looking forward to the races changing next week - it's too late for it to be worth tuning a skyline now for only a couple of days benefit, I have been enjoying thrashing a Pug 208 around though!
I'd quite like one race per set to be stock/universal cars to see true driver pace, but I do quite like the different car options in the current race B format.
I'd quite like one race per set to be stock/universal cars to see true driver pace, but I do quite like the different car options in the current race B format.
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Keep tuning for road cars. Group cars should be BoP default. GTS captured lightning in a bottle with providing true racing and making it accessible. Would be insanity to throw that away in the pursuit of a few whales feeding the horrible MTX business model.
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The Gr BoP was terribly broken in GTS if we’re being honest. There were cars that were up to 1.5s slower at a given track then other cars in the group, that’s anything but balanced. The tuning will help close the gap in Gr cars hopefully. I ran Alfa for 2 seasons, and only used the Gr3 car once because it was so bad.
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Yes, it was broken in the sense you weren’t able to pick any group car and be competitive. It worked brilliantly that you could have amazing close races with people at the same level and get into those races with no fuss whatsoever. The time would have been better spent refining the BoP. Let’s hope we can find out if they have. I really don’t care about what my car looks like or the badge on it, no interest in adding wings or wheels, building up a garage. Just want to race.
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- ruggermole
I mean they seem to have developed the pp concept since its. You'd think that hopefully that was an improved bop type measurement. Usually by the third race or so you figure which car you have that suits the race for the week and then you can just sit down and play.
I really want to enjoy a slow play with the career mode while also enjoying the sport side of the game. They smashed the two sides of the game together which has really ruined it for me.
People on here finished the cafe in like 24 hours, which just seems way too fast to be enjoyable for me.
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I don’t know. As someone only interested in online I’m immensely disappointed with the offering so far, and as I’ve completed the cafe missions as well now I think anyone looking for a good single player experience would also be immensely disappointed. There’s a severe lack of depth to the game at launch. But we’re only a week in so let’s hope everyone gets what they want in the end.
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What's annoying for me with the lack of BOP is that when I'm tuning I have no idea if I've really made the car better or worse or not. I'm not a good enough racer to be consistent with my laps so have no idea what impact my tuning changes are really having, bar the ones just adding more power. When I added a front and rear wing to my Aqua, plus some other racing upgrades, I was about a second off my best lap time. Just a bit frustrating as the upgrades were supposed to improve my car...or it could just be I had a run of bad laps due to my average driving ability!
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It took a little more than 24 hours, but I was one of them lol. I only have track experience left to finish up on now, then it’s back to sport mode. I am up to 95 cars already though, which will be useful when I get to the online races. Hopefully the championships are still good too when they start, I’m really curious to see how tuning shakes up Manu, it could be a lot better now possibly.
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You’ve articulated this well. Even a really good driver would have to put in 2 or 3 laps to know for sure what difference there is. And you’d only be able to make small adjustments to one thing at a time. The whole thing is a bit of a slog.
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I think you’ll find that after just a couple of weeks, you’ll start to see trends form in both what you like in a car, and what’s good/works. I’ve noticed already that I can now tune up a car a lot faster that I could on day 1, and it’s only been a week. I hope you eventually come to enjoy the game, I think this is gonna be the best one yet. 🍻
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The Focus RS I have been using for race B took me about an hour to set up to match roughly what I was seeing others do via race replay. I had spent the previous 2 hours trying to get other cars to that level and failing.
Contrast that to ACC I can pick any car on any track, select the aggressive setup, do three laps of the track to dial in the tyre pressures and be reasonably competitive . 10 minutes tops set up time.
It's going to be better as folks get a handle on tuning and build a tune library for the track combos but right now it's a real pain
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It is ironic that a game that prides itself for accessibility ends up showing you that ACC is more accessible in comparison because of this tuning stuff in Sport Mode.
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So I got lucky with the Daily workout reward and won 1 million credits which I used to buy the Peugeot. Within about ten minutes I ran a 1:35.9 and can probably get a .5 so over five seconds faster than the Viper. PD really needs to address this.
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Hopefully they will, Nitrous doesn’t add HP either, but they’ve saw and blocked that out. So I have hope. 👍
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Adding my thoughts to this after a few (well, 15) Race B attempts. I’m reasonably decent and am rocking a pretty maxed-out Scirocco R. Won 5, finished on the podium in the others bar two.
Peugeots rocking up does generally mean you are fighting for best-of-the-rest honours. There are definitely properly decent drivers using them to great effect. No problem with that.
Main issue is they’re so fast they paper over the cracks for people who just throw themselves around, barge people and get penalties and still manage to come out on top. In my last race I had a great fight with someone in an R34 that got spoiled by someone in a Peugeot repeatedly catching us on the straights, outbraking themselves, rejoining and barging us out the way again and again and again. Guy didn’t know what he was doing, he just had a heavy right foot and an enormous mechanical advantage.
I don’t mind tuning being a part of some Dailys, but Polyphony need to be much more careful with their entry criteria. Maybe have one of the three daily races be BoP, one a heavily curated tune race and the other basically what Race B is this week.
Peugeots rocking up does generally mean you are fighting for best-of-the-rest honours. There are definitely properly decent drivers using them to great effect. No problem with that.
Main issue is they’re so fast they paper over the cracks for people who just throw themselves around, barge people and get penalties and still manage to come out on top. In my last race I had a great fight with someone in an R34 that got spoiled by someone in a Peugeot repeatedly catching us on the straights, outbraking themselves, rejoining and barging us out the way again and again and again. Guy didn’t know what he was doing, he just had a heavy right foot and an enormous mechanical advantage.
I don’t mind tuning being a part of some Dailys, but Polyphony need to be much more careful with their entry criteria. Maybe have one of the three daily races be BoP, one a heavily curated tune race and the other basically what Race B is this week.
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Same happened to me and I just wrote about it in the bug thread
The thing is what's going on here isn't merely tuning, it's upgrading/downgrading + tuning. If it was taking a car and tweaking a few settings here and there to optimise that's one thing. But when you introduce the car part upgrading that opens a giant can of worms and it will always lead to what we've seen with Daily Race B. Out of hundreds of cars that can meet the race restrictions only a few are viable and one is on another plane entirely. We're not talking about differences of tenths here. An average car upgraded and tuned to have 285BHP/1200KG is probably fifteen seconds slower a lap than the cars at the top.
I suspect that Gran Turismo will start using PP to restrict these races most of the time. That will be a lot better but anyone that has played Forza online will know that PI doesn't really achieve its aims. The system over and underestimates cars, and from track to track there is a ton of variance that can mean your X PI/PP car is nowhere near as good as someone else's X PI car. Also the variance in strengths and weaknesses of the cars at a given PI/PP rarely leads to good, close racing.
BoP is the least bad solution to balancing cars in an online race by far. And what's really annoying is that it would be quite easy for them to make it a lot better. BoP could be done on a track-by-track basis. It could even automatically adjust based on big data accumulated from people playing the game. Sadly Polyphony seems to have completely taken their eye of the ball with Sport Mode.
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The fact that the GTS daily thread has 10x more activity than this one speaks volumes about the current state of Sport Mode in GT7. Likely all will be revealed on Monday. I am expecting tuning allowed for all races, even Nations and Manufacturers, using PP. The High Speed Ring GT4 event is probably a good indicator of what's to come.
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I'm praying that Polyphony are hearing the feedback on this, but communication has never been their strong suit. It feels like the vast majority of fans of Sport Mode in GT Sport are disillusioned by the status quo. I find it very hard to believe that more people want it this way than the old way.
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Race B on Deep Forest destroyed my sportsmanship rating. From S to C, and I'm a clean driver. There's absolutely no way to improve it. It only goes down.
I've repeated this for over a year, since the penalty problems in GTS were carried over to GT7, but PD really don't know what the hell they're doing.
I've repeated this for over a year, since the penalty problems in GTS were carried over to GT7, but PD really don't know what the hell they're doing.
