GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Anyone higher up the rankings not using the handbrake on the deep forest tight turn?

I'm a c driver, best time just over 1.35 and don't use it. As it's early hours in uk getting matched with a's, b's and a couple of c's.

That turn I'd carnage compared to usual c races as higher drives bomb in, then hit the hand brake...
I got a 1:32.2 and I don't use it. Try to stay as far left before the turn, which can be tricky. Ideally I'll stay in 2nd gear throughout the turn, but sometimes I'll throw it in 1st briefly if I need more rotation, then quickly back into 2nd. I don't think I have my replay saved but if I do I'll post it. I'm a wheel user and that weird hairpin is also wrecking my right thumb!
 
Broken record here. But make the GT7 Daily Race change everyday, like at the beginning of GTS.

I think it would lessen the advantages of BOP and tuning. And I think more people would be willing to jumping in without worrying about days of practice to be competive. When tuning was on, people were spending the whole week looking for the right tune. Judging by this behaviour I think everyone would have more fun if they changed the races daily.
Something does need to change but Iā€™m not sure changing the races daily is the correct. The issue I have with this is some days I can play for a good 2/3 hours but then some days I can only do an hour. If the races swapped daily Id probs find I play less as I like to be at least competitive and that practice time enables me to improve. I just have the vision that I will be slow and at the back nearly every race. I think swapping the races every 3 days would be better. I think that enough time for people to practice a bit, race and still be competitive.


Out of curiosity on race B Deep Forest. What are peoples time for this and what car are you using? I just want to see where I stand among some of you people.
Im currently at a 1.34.2 in the Evo.
 
The Dailies races should alternate days to change. A change over on Monday, B on Wednesday, and C on Friday. That way there is a ā€œnewā€ combo every other day, or it would seem that way at least. Itā€™s still the same amount of races, and work to set them up for PD. But it would mix things up at least a bit anyways, so itā€™s not the same 3 race combo all week every week.
 
From yesterday's Daily Race B, after I'd taken the last corner on lap one and slide off, lost a place and then safely rejoined I had a very good race with Hilly. Very clean. I think I could have passed on the hairpin on lap 5, but I backed off as I thought I lacked the skill to pass safely and 7th was better than last, plus I might have ruined Hilly's race as well.

Enjoy:


Comments are allowed, even snarky onesšŸ˜œ
I know I need to refine my lines and can go faster....

PS, should be 4k but give YT a chance to process itšŸ§
 
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Something does need to change but Iā€™m not sure changing the races daily is the correct. The issue I have with this is some days I can play for a good 2/3 hours but then some days I can only do an hour. If the races swapped daily Id probs find I play less as I like to be at least competitive and that practice time enables me to improve. I just have the vision that I will be slow and at the back nearly every race. I think swapping the races every 3 days would be better. I think that enough time for people to practice a bit, race and still be competitive.
Definitely better for improving. I agree with that. Real races have practice days and qualifying so I can see the advantages to keeping it a few days.

Main reason for the suggestion was for BOP and tuning.

Daily race rotation should be shorter than that in between Series races, which is 3-4 days.
 
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Haha that's amazing! What Saab do you have? Mine's a 2006 93 Aero which I've tuned to 400 wheel šŸ™‚ Gonna drop the engine tomorrow actually as got some nice goodies which can take more boost once I swap the internals of the factory turbo šŸ™‚
2008 9-3 Wagon, 2T (big turbo). You have the bigger motor that holds a ton of power easily. I have had it 11 years, my son is 10 and hoping to give it to him when he can drive. I just bought a 997.2 as a toy car so get my grins from that.
 
From yesterday's Daily Race B, after I'd taken the last corner on lap one and slide off, lost a place and then safely rejoined I had a very good race with Hilly. Very clean. I think I could have passed on the hairpin on lap 5, but I backed off as I thought I lacked the skill to pass safely and 7th was better than last, plus I might have ruined Hilly's race as well.

Enjoy:


Comments are allowed, even snarky onesšŸ˜œ
I know I need to refine my lines and can go faster....

PS, should be 4k but give YT a chance to process itšŸ§

This deserves 2 likes for the smart racing, well done man. šŸ»
 
This was a "B" driver in C lobby, he said i hit him 1st even though i received no penalty but regardless,didnt deserve this as i had already gotten bombed when i was in 7th earlier, im not great driver yet & still learning how to handle wheel i just got, maybe thats why his sr was B as well, still though, he got mad because this "C" driver past him, now if im in the wrong in this video,please tell me as im always trying to learn how to drive better

Isn't very basic racing rule that you should be clearly alongside before turn-in? This is clear violation of that most elementary overtaking rule? Not to justify the retaliation, but i can understand the frustration if someone divebombs like that.
 
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I so wish more people raced with this mindset. Good for you.
The chasing down over several laps and looking for a chance to pass was fun and
we both seemed to be gaining on those in front,
a few more laps and I think I could have passed safely and even made a few more places.
But staying penalty free is more important as it keeps me with the safer drivers which makes for a more fun game.
 
Isn't very basic racing rule that you should be clearly alongside before turn-in? This is clear violation of that most elementary overtaking rule? Not to justify the retaliation, but i can understand the frustration if someone divebombs like that.
In the leagues Iā€™ve done in iRacing, most go by ā€œif you donā€™t have overlap(close to half a cars worth), before the lead car starts his turn in(turns his wheels), you have no right to attempt a passā€, even if he is taking a wider line, and it looks like there is an opening. That narrower line, will just intersect with the lead cars late line, on the apex or exit, causing issues.
 
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Ah how 2/3 days can make a huge difference in these dailies. Said earlier on the week that Bathurst was stupid and it was crash fest with idiots, wellā€¦. I actually really enjoy it now. Very much like Fuji for me. Tricky track but if you get it right a fun track.

Just had a really good race against the bugs šŸŖ² Z4 for me is top notch
Top 2 all posted a quali lap 1 seconds quicker than me but the other around me all had equalish time give or take half a second.
Started P5 and the lead car spun out on his own on lap 1. Was on the gear box off P3 all race until lap 10 when I made a small error. After that just made sure to bring it home.
Finished P4 in a B/S. Looks like Iā€™m maybe an established B driver?
 

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Isn't very basic racing rule that you should be clearly alongside before turn-in? This is clear violation of that most elementary overtaking rule? Not to justify the retaliation, but i can understand the frustration if someone divebombs like that.
That is not an elementary rule, and in that case i should be understood if i decide to do the same to each person that has did way worse to me if i go by your understanding response, also since you decided to speak that, do you practice what you are preaching to me in every race, every situation? Everyone else that has spoken has had very good input but i find your response very double edged and aggy
 
Ah how 2/3 days can make a huge difference in these dailies. Said earlier on the week that Bathurst was stupid and it was crash fest with idiots, wellā€¦. I actually really enjoy it now. Very much like Fuji for me. Tricky track but if you get it right a fun track.

Just had a really good race against the bugs šŸŖ² Z4 for me is top notch
Top 2 all posted a quali lap 1 seconds quicker than me but the other around me all had equalish time give or take half a second.
Started P5 and the lead car spun out on his own on lap 1. Was on the gear box off P3 all race until lap 10 when I made a small error. After that just made sure to bring it home.
Finished P4 in a B/S. Looks like Iā€™m maybe an established B driver?
Yes, I had some great races today, with some very sensible and clean racers. Even managed a P2 in the Jaguar, 10 seconds behind another Jag! Very satisfying leaving all the Beetles and WRXs behind šŸ™‚
 
Ah how 2/3 days can make a huge difference in these dailies. Said earlier on the week that Bathurst was stupid and it was crash fest with idiots, wellā€¦. I actually really enjoy it now. Very much like Fuji for me. Tricky track but if you get it right a fun track.

Just had a really good race against the bugs šŸŖ² Z4 for me is top notch
Top 2 all posted a quali lap 1 seconds quicker than me but the other around me all had equalish time give or take half a second.
Started P5 and the lead car spun out on his own on lap 1. Was on the gear box off P3 all race until lap 10 when I made a small error. After that just made sure to bring it home.
Finished P4 in a B/S. Looks like Iā€™m maybe an established B driver?
WHat pace are you lapping at? Established A drivers, so mid pack A, are doing low to mid 4's, you sound like you are not tooooo far off of that.

And don't mention Fuji and bathurst in the same sentence or we can't be friends. Fuji feels so....wrong..... like corners don't belong in sequence with each other.
 
WHat pace are you lapping at? Established A drivers, so mid pack A, are doing low to mid 4's, you sound like you are not tooooo far off of that.

And don't mention Fuji and bathurst in the same sentence or we can't be friends. Fuji feels so....wrong..... like corners don't belong in sequence with each other.
Average is about mid-high 2.05ā€™s. My best lap was 2.05.1 in this race.
The fastest lap was 2.03 by the winner.

Haha I love Fuji
 
I hadnt run any races at Bathurst yet and I wanted to get an idea of what the car felt like in race with fuel and the dirty air I keep hearing about so I jumped on with my second account. It was on DR E and got it up to what looks like near B now after a few races. Unless youā€™re out front itā€™s a complete mess. The biggest problem is the blocking. I donā€™t have any interest in attempting an overtake over the mountain, save it for the straights but every single person blocks like mad and once youā€™re alongside they sort of panic and behave quite erratically. Bit of an adventure.
 
This is the guy that hit me yesterday, it was mostly his fault, but I should have taken a defensive line on this one, so he didnā€™t think it was a chance to make a pass.

 
The dirty air thing seems a bit overdone honestly. Iā€™ve no idea if itā€™s realistic, but it definitely makes a massive difference when youā€™re already on the limit of track space and grip. Took me by surprise. I have to admit I was one of the bottlers coming down the mountain. Also seemed to affect my ascent as I hit the wall a couple of times where Iā€™m pretty good normally at cleanly negotiating my way up.
 
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Jesus I ended up in a lobby with half of them having an A+ DR (I'm at B with S sportsmanship) and they ALL were dirty! Raced 4 Daily Race B with them and I didn't see this level of crap even when I was at beginner level. Honestly was unbelievable, almost undrivable but soon realized be patient, let them take each other out and get positions that way.

My qualy time (on controller) is 1:33.2 so was starting 12/ 13 every time and finishing all races 5th or 6th just by chilling and watch the murder from a distance. Could have had podiums too but inevitably got tagged a few times šŸ¤£
 
That is not an elementary rule, and in that case i should be understood if i decide to do the same to each person that has did way worse to me if i go by your understanding response, also since you decided to speak that, do you practice what you are preaching to me in every race, every situation? Everyone else that has spoken has had very good input but i find your response very double edged and aggy
In F1 it's get alongside in the braking zone and beat the other car to the apex (while still being able to make the corner) to have corner rights. In GT7 it's: When overtaking, you may have to give up on the optimal braking scenario we learned about previously. Even if your driving line goes wide at the corner exit and you are not able to accelerate under optimal conditions, it can still be worthwhile prioritising getting in front of your opponent when braking. :confused:

It depends on the car, some cars have very different braking distances. Some cars you can easily out brake and be alongside or even ahead before turn in, others don't even attempt if you're already alongside before the braking zone.

I race from the back myself and stick to not attempting to out brake if my nose is still behind the other car before the braking zone. I'll position my car a bit to the inside when I'm close, not to be caught out by an early braker. If they brake very early, then it will happen naturally. Yet better then when I stay behind and accidentally punt them off. I always use my earlier braking point in those situations, as in make sure I can slow down enough to leave the apex clear for the other car.

And of course switch it up, keep them guessing. Often just positioning my car on the inside is enough to make the other driver brake a bit later and take a sub optimal line through the corner. Then I have a clear corner to get a better corner exit and pass them after the corner. Even better when they're defending the inside, poition on the outside but brake early for slow in fast out. You are already on the better line, better corner exit is guaranteed. However out braking on the outside also works (depending on the corner) and feels better to pull off than the standard inside move.

Yet when I don't feel I have the corner, that is not fully alongside at turn in, I'll do my best to back out, that is brake more and steer as much to the inside as possible without losing control. That's where things can still go wrong when the outside driver dives to the apex like you don't exist. Yes, you have corner rights, but I can't magically make my car disappear.
 
In F1 it's get alongside in the braking zone and beat the other car to the apex (while still being able to make the corner) to have corner rights. In GT7 it's: When overtaking, you may have to give up on the optimal braking scenario we learned about previously. Even if your driving line goes wide at the corner exit and you are not able to accelerate under optimal conditions, it can still be worthwhile prioritising getting in front of your opponent when braking. :confused:

It depends on the car, some cars have very different braking distances. Some cars you can easily out brake and be alongside or even ahead before turn in, others don't even attempt if you're already alongside before the braking zone.

I race from the back myself and stick to not attempting to out brake if my nose is still behind the other car before the braking zone. I'll position my car a bit to the inside when I'm close, not to be caught out by an early braker. If they brake very early, then it will happen naturally. Yet better then when I stay behind and accidentally punt them off. I always use my earlier braking point in those situations, as in make sure I can slow down enough to leave the apex clear for the other car.

And of course switch it up, keep them guessing. Often just positioning my car on the inside is enough to make the other driver brake a bit later and take a sub optimal line through the corner. Then I have a clear corner to get a better corner exit and pass them after the corner. Even better when they're defending the inside, poition on the outside but brake early for slow in fast out. You are already on the better line, better corner exit is guaranteed. However out braking on the outside also works (depending on the corner) and feels better to pull off than the standard inside move.

Yet when I don't feel I have the corner, that is not fully alongside at turn in, I'll do my best to back out, that is brake more and steer as much to the inside as possible without losing control. That's where things can still go wrong when the outside driver dives to the apex like you don't exist. Yes, you have corner rights, but I can't magically make my car disappear.
Thank you sir, i appreciate that insight, and you are right as well, i have been racing pretty decent today but i go for the S rating & try for clean races with sportsmanship more than the dr to be honest, i think that gets & gives more respect on the track & off more than the dr, but i could be wrong

Question, is it possible to get a clean race in race B if you hit others, wreck them, etc, even if it is incidental contact?
 
Thank you sir, i appreciate that insight, and you are right as well, i have been racing pretty decent today but i go for the S rating & try for clean races with sportsmanship more than the dr to be honest, i think that gets & gives more respect on the track & off more than the dr, but i could be wrong

Question, is it possible to get a clean race in race B if you hit others, wreck them, etc, even if it is incidental contact?
It certainly was in GT Sport :banghead:

You keep the clean race bonus when the game assigns the penalty to the other car, even if you go off track or into a wall after contact. When the game blames the other player you get 3 sec immunity from short cut and wall penalties which also protects the CRB. (Which is abused on tracks like Monza by hitting a car then skipping the second part of either chicane, which triggers a penalty for the car that was hit)

As for respect, it depends on the person. Some respect fighting back, some only respect people not passing them :lol:
 
This is the guy that hit me yesterday, it was mostly his fault, but I should have taken a defensive line on this one, so he didnā€™t think it was a chance to make a pass.


I see nothing wrong with your line and more of a driver behind going for a gap that wasnā€™t there.
I think if the game had damage it would cut stuff like that out. Granted its only a little nudge from the blue car and that wouldnā€™t have caused any damage but itā€™s the bigger hits that will
 
Iā€™ve been out of this forum for a couple of years. But my dusty PS4 is now up and running together with a G29 šŸ˜…
Tried some daily races on Bathurst, this was fun. Iā€™m not very quick, but Iā€™m still learning
This thread is really useful for me. Iā€™m running with ā€œabs weakā€œ, and everything else off. Do someone use active stability management (ASM) or countersteering assistance? I donā€™t se any quick way to cut 6 second from my 2:07,xx laptimes. Itā€™s crazy to se lap-times close to 2 minā€¦

I can see the race settings allows a lot of driving aids, hope some future races come without any aids, including ABS off šŸ˜

 
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