GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[fmq75]

It is good to highlight the problems so that PD actually fixes the pp system. If you read my previous comments, I said it shouldn't be possible to get some cars work with the ride height tweaking.

The game does not differentiate between different ride heights of the cars, therefore I am doing nothing wrong, opposite to what some of you seem to imply. Therefore it is pointless to moan about this.

If some F1 teams used a turbocharged V8 when FIA forgot to ban the engine, is it the teams fault? No. It is literally the same thing.

You can use the meta cars, or don't use those. Up to you. But don't moan about the meta users then when you are not yourself using a meta car. That is your choice and a meta user is not doing anything illegal. What is not illegal is allowed. Bad sportsmanship is ramming and such. Using any legal car that the rules allow is not bad sportsmanship.

I would find it too emberrassing to enter the race with a car that looks like a low rider straight outta compton,but with a“stuck“ front height But to each their own of course…

 

[samppa_944]

I would find it too emberrassing to enter the race with a car that looks like a low rider straight outta compton,but with a“stuck“ front height But to each their own of course…

Well not as bad as stanced cars, don't get me even started what I think about those 😅

 

[PirovacBoy]

But, ABS has nothing to do with going through a slow corner, with no brakes or throttle applied, and the car just spins out.

Absolutely, you’re right. I always use ABS weak with MR GT3 Cars and Trail Brake all the way right until I reach the apex and ALWAYS tend to stabilize the Car with very little Throttle Input.
That’s the only way for me to keep the Car from spinning out.
And like you said never go through a Corner without applying any sort of input be it throttle or brake.
It’s definitely not easy though hence in its current state I’d only suggest to use MR GT3s if you’re really good in managing your Inputs.
These Cars are very user unfriendly to say the least 😅

 

[xMAXIx79]

I can give it a try, but my experience is the MR cars hate trailbraking. That's where they spin like crazy. Maybe taking ABS off helps that. But, ABS has nothing to do with going through a slow corner, with no brakes or throttle applied, and the car just spins out.

The McLaren F1 is the only one I tried where I bailed on the race. I was out of the race in T1 lap 1 and never would've caught back up to try and race people, especially if it happened again which was basically a guarantee. The others were rough through the chicane often doing a 45* slide rather than a 90* slide. So it was "manageable" but I probably lost 2 seconds a lap just there.

ETA - There are ways to tune out a lot of the issues with MR cars, but in Dailys with BoP all of that goes away.

Absolutely, you’re right. I always use ABS weak with MR GT3 Cars and Trail Brake all the way right until I reach the apex and ALWAYS tend to stabilize the Car with very little Throttle Input.
That’s the only way for me to keep the Car from spinning out.
And like you said never go through a Corner without applying any sort of input be it throttle or brake.
It’s definitely not easy though hence in its current state I’d only suggest to use MR GT3s if you’re really good in managing your Inputs.
These Cars are very user unfriendly to say the least 😅

Can I give you both a tip? Ford GT LM Race Car.. not the test car but the other white one. Of all the MR's I've tested, it's the best. By far! Has an enormous tracktion, an unbelievable top speed, super controllable brakes and a lot of downforce. Its only real problem that it shares with all MR cars since the stupid patch eo only increased the rear axle grip is... as soon as you step on the gas in the corner, it understeers like crazy, of course as soon as you slightly reduce acceleration, the front comes down and the car steers but still loses a lot of time here like everyone else. However, it is really very smooth and smooth to drive and of all the MRs it is the most stable in tight, slow corners.

 

[NAXEHT]

Yes. In fact I would do it even more if my DR went up, because means I get a chance to score more points in GTWS races. The driver rating balances itself out though in the end.

I believe you misunderstood me. I mean, if in the statistics we have on our profiles, there was a second column summarising our performances in races with no DR/SR updates, like this week’s race A — then would you still do it?

I’m fairly confident most people would not. They’d either skip it or participate in any random car doing mid and high 40’s instead of sub 40’s in the odd rake cars. Now they’ve got a lucrative and attractive opportunity to pick up free wins because it’ll look to some people like “ohh, this guy has tons of wins, wow!” when in reality we have no idea how many wins, poles and FL’s someone picked up in a “race” like this daily A or a more balanced and competitive B or C.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Absolutely, you’re right. I always use ABS weak with MR GT3 Cars and Trail Brake all the way right until I reach the apex and ALWAYS tend to stabilize the Car with very little Throttle Input.
That’s the only way for me to keep the Car from spinning out.
And like you said never go through a Corner without applying any sort of input be it throttle or brake.
It’s definitely not easy though hence in its current state I’d only suggest to use MR GT3s if you’re really good in managing your Inputs.
These Cars are very user unfriendly to say the least 😅

I'm reading your conversation with great interest, as it might be highlighting my biggest driving weakness: trail braking. As I have played GT for twenty years (and the last five years not at all), always with strictly digital controls (X/square buttons) for throttle and brakes, I've switched to the analog method on the controller. Throttle control came quite naturally after some hours of getting used to it, but my braking is still mostly panic mode: Oh my god, corner ahead, slam it. And so I still go through a lot of corners with the wrong speed. Maybe a reason for my inability to be fast enough on a track like Spa with fluid turns. I'll have to work on that.

Buuuttt, maybe I should learn MT first. Both at once will not work, my brain is to old for that. What do you guys think, might proper brake control give me more improvement in terms of lap times, or is the manual gearshifting more important?

 

[Roggers]

I believe you misunderstood me. I mean, if in the statistics we have on our profiles, there was a second column summarising our performances in races with no DR/SR updates, like this week’s race A — then would you still do it?

I’m fairly confident most people would not. They’d either skip it or participate in any random car doing mid and high 40’s instead of sub 40’s in the odd rake cars. Now they’ve got a lucrative and attractive opportunity to pick up free wins because it’ll look to some people like “ohh, this guy has tons of wins, wow!” when in reality we have no idea how many wins, poles and FL’s someone picked up in a “race” like this daily A or a more balanced and competitive B or C.

To be honest I see the No DR/SR races as just pure fun racing. How a computer game should be really. I don’t care if I win or lose in that series.
I like stats and I like the fact you can show off your achievements but i wouldn’t sit racing an easy race just building them up. I want to work hard and earn them stats. I would like to see them split and then have a combined total

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Created a second account to have some fun rather than get annoyed at rammers. Did the menu up to 9 to unlock Sport Mode... Too easy 🤣

From one extreme to another 🤣 Named the account after my dog 😂

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Created a second account to have some fun rather than get annoyed at rammers. Did the menu up to 9 to unlock Sport Mode... Too easy 🤣

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From one extreme to another 🤣 Named the account after my dog 😂

Five races like that and you'll be A again and worry about your DR. 😜

 

[xMAXIx79]

I'm reading your conversation with great interest, as it might be highlighting my biggest driving weakness: trail braking. As I have played GT for twenty years (and the last five years not at all), always with strictly digital controls (X/square buttons) for throttle and brakes, I've switched to the analog method on the controller. Throttle control came quite naturally after some hours of getting used to it, but my braking is still mostly panic mode: Oh my god, corner ahead, slam it. And so I still go through a lot of corners with the wrong speed. Maybe a reason for my inability to be fast enough on a track like Spa with fluid turns. I'll have to work on that.

Buuuttt, maybe I should learn MT first. Both at once will not work, my brain is to old for that. What do you guys think, might proper brake control give me more improvement in terms of lap times, or is the manual gearshifting more important?

My opinion.. you can be extremely fast with an automatic transmission... I also drive an automatic and I think.. I'm not that slow. With the right sensitive braking you get the most time.

 

[CQR Deuce]

Did a couple more race C's this morning. Had one heck of a race in Race 1. Started 3rd and myself and the guy in second were damn near attached at the hip the whole race. I managed to pass him before the first pit stop and got about a 2 sec gap but as I was leaving the pits me and one of the guys yet to pit came together in turn 1. I was as tight as I could be but he turned right into me and allowed 3rd to get back by me. Could've been my fault though, need to watch the replay to be sure.

Second race not nearly as exciting. Zavisic was starting from the back. He was fuel saving and still turning quicker laps. Lol He ended up catching me after the pit stop and went to just nip the win at the line. I was 7 sec back in 3rd.

Edit: Just realized there's no sound on the stream from this morning. I'm such a noob! 😂😂

 

[xMAXIx79]

I haven't raced this week yet, I have the feeling that I'm still too slow.

 

[Roggers]

Created a second account to have some fun rather than get annoyed at rammers. Did the menu up to 9 to unlock Sport Mode... Too easy 🤣

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From one extreme to another 🤣 Named the account after my dog 😂

I was in that race too. My 2nd AC is J.Plato. Started in P12 (i think) and fell to last place due to some idiot just running me wide. Managed to make some decent overtakes and put in some consistent laps.
I was on course to set the fastest lap on lap 8 then you managed to pull out another second. Did a 2.09.3 for my fastest and average was 2.10 flat.

Have to say I think Race C is one of the best daily races for a while. Not set any Q time and I’m just starting for, the back having fun working my way through the field.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

I was in that race too. My 2nd AC is J.Plato. Started in P12 (i think) and fell to last place due to some idiot just running me wide. Managed to make some decent overtakes and put in some consistent laps.
I was on course to set the fastest lap on lap 8 then you managed to pull out another second. Did a 2.09.3 for my fastest and average was 2.10 flat.

Yeah, since I was so far ahead, was fuel saving and managing tires around lap 5 so I can go all out last 2 laps and make sure I take all 3 awards 😂

Just did the Race B with just a qualy lap behind me. Started 2nd and finished 5 seconds behind winner but I think I fuel saved too much as was caught out using my main account and got paranoid 🤣

Was also hoping it was the real Plato and would end up on 5th Gear 😂

 

[Granite_Lw]

My opinion.. you can be extremely fast with an automatic transmission... I also drive an automatic and I think.. I'm not that slow. With the right sensitive braking you get the most time.

That's a handy video - thanks!
I'm terrible at trail braking, my mind can't handle finger & thumb control simultaneously on the left hand plus watching out for other people plus remembering to breath!

 

[xMAXIx79]

That's a handy video - thanks!
I'm terrible at trail braking, my mind can't handle finger & thumb control simultaneously on the left hand plus watching out for other people plus remembering to breath!

I can understand that very well, I also had to play with a pad for the last few weeks and that is exactly what presented me with many problems and countless hours of practice. And just that clean braking with perfect steering was super hard.

 

[Roggers]

Yeah, since I was so far ahead, was fuel saving and managing tires around lap 5 so I can go all out last 2 laps and make sure I take all 3 awards 😂

Just did the Race B with just a qualy lap behind me. Started 2nd and finished 5 seconds behind winner but I think I fuel saved too much as was caught out using my main account and got paranoid 🤣

Was also hoping it was the real Plato and would end up on 5th Gear 😂

Yeah you was pretty rapid. Ah I wondered how you managed to do a quick time on 4/5 lap old soft.

Just had another great race in daily c. In DR D/S lobby, started P14 and managed to race up to P2 1second off P1. Im sure I would have taken P1 on the last lap but the driver in P2 didn’t like the fact I was about to pass them so started to make dirty moves. Great race again. Shame I have to power off otherwise I’d go again.

 

[Talon16]

Can I give you both a tip? Ford GT LM Race Car.. not the test car but the other white one. Of all the MR's I've tested, it's the best. By far! Has an enormous tracktion, an unbelievable top speed, super controllable brakes and a lot of downforce. Its only real problem that it shares with all MR cars since the stupid patch eo only increased the rear axle grip is... as soon as you step on the gas in the corner, it understeers like crazy, of course as soon as you slightly reduce acceleration, the front comes down and the car steers but still loses a lot of time here like everyone else. However, it is really very smooth and smooth to drive and of all the MRs it is the most stable in tight, slow corners.

I like that car a lot (see avatar); have it on my main account. But you can't rent it, unfortunately... the only Ford GT LM Spec II is the prototype black one. When I use it on my main account, I've not used it in a Daily but just 1P stuff where I can tune the spinning out of it. Plus, it's a true stick shift so it gives me an opportunity to use my stick/clutch layout on teh G29. Admittedly, haven't driven it in a while, since the 1.1X update.

I'm reading your conversation with great interest, as it might be highlighting my biggest driving weakness: trail braking. As I have played GT for twenty years (and the last five years not at all), always with strictly digital controls (X/square buttons) for throttle and brakes, I've switched to the analog method on the controller. Throttle control came quite naturally after some hours of getting used to it, but my braking is still mostly panic mode: Oh my god, corner ahead, slam it. And so I still go through a lot of corners with the wrong speed. Maybe a reason for my inability to be fast enough on a track like Spa with fluid turns. I'll have to work on that.

Buuuttt, maybe I should learn MT first. Both at once will not work, my brain is to old for that. What do you guys think, might proper brake control give me more improvement in terms of lap times, or is the manual gearshifting more important?

Trail braking for sure. So much time to be gained there. Three advantages:

1) You braking later into a turn because you're using the last bit of braking after you've started to turn in, as you are entering the turn.*
2) Helps keep a little extra weight on the front tires helping them grip while turning.
3) Because the rear is a little bit lighter, it's helping to rotate the car for corner exit and negating some of that frustrating understeer.

It's basically the opposite of corner exit: rather than ease on the throttle out of the turn as the wheel angle decreases, you're easing off the brakes into the corner as the wheel angle increases.

Everything has a trade off, if you're put extra weight on the front you start losing it on the rear. Too much trail brake while turning and you've lightened the rear too much and you'll spin/slide; too little and you're losing time and may run wide. So you want that perfect balance. It takes practice like anything else.

*This is why you'll see 'insert-super-fast-alien-YT-person-here' brake at a certain point, and you might not be able to. I'll use PX7-Aura or Z28 as an example... watch him do a race. Cool, car X and track Y he hits the brakes right at the 100m board and takes it perfectly. I go to do the same, and I go wide, flying off the track! Watch their braking inputs and you'll see them starting to come off the brakes as they're turning in which is why they can brake later than if you're tring to get all the braking done before turn in, and why they're so fast coming out of the turns as well (per #3)

 

[samppa_944]

I believe you misunderstood me. I mean, if in the statistics we have on our profiles, there was a second column summarising our performances in races with no DR/SR updates, like this week’s race A — then would you still do it?

I’m fairly confident most people would not. They’d either skip it or participate in any random car doing mid and high 40’s instead of sub 40’s in the odd rake cars. Now they’ve got a lucrative and attractive opportunity to pick up free wins because it’ll look to some people like “ohh, this guy has tons of wins, wow!” when in reality we have no idea how many wins, poles and FL’s someone picked up in a “race” like this daily A or a more balanced and competitive B or C.

Okay. Winning is winning, DR affected or not.

 

[xMAXIx79]

I like that car a lot (see avatar); have it on my main account. But you can't rent it, unfortunately... the only Ford GT LM Spec II is the prototype black one. When I use it on my main account, I've not used it in a Daily but just 1P stuff where I can tune the spinning out of it. Plus, it's a true stick shift so it gives me an opportunity to use my stick/clutch layout on teh G29. Admittedly, haven't driven it in a while, since the 1.1X update.

Well, I can rent the white one for training at least, but I'm sure it will be available for racing as well. The white and the black have significant differences in handling and gearing.. the white, the RaceCar, is more stable than the test car.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Thanks a lot guys for the valuable input, highly appreciated.

So I'm going to practice right now, will be back in probably 4 or 5 months. 😬🤣

 

[xMAXIx79]

Thanks a lot guys for the valuable input, highly appreciated.

So I'm going to practice right now, will be back in probably 4 or 5 months. 😬🤣

Hey Leon, gladly.. you know how to reach me. You're on our Discord too, aren't you? In my opinion, if you want to practice Trailbrake, nothing beats CE.. tons of different cars and tests and having friends on the list who keep giving you better times... that motivates... at least me.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Yeah you was pretty rapid. Ah I wondered how you managed to do a quick time on 4/5 lap old soft.

Just had another great race in daily c. In DR D/S lobby, started P14 and managed to race up to P2 1second off P1. Im sure I would have taken P1 on the last lap but the driver in P2 didn’t like the fact I was about to pass them so started to make dirty moves. Great race again. Shame I have to power off otherwise I’d go again.

Because I didn't 🤣 I did 3 laps on softs at map 2, refueled for 7 laps so I can do 6 laps on hards running fuel map 1

 

[Stilva]

Bisons? I know them well as the Blue Jays are my religion and as far as I know, neither Saucedo nor Biagini are submariners. But I do recall a callup throwing those for us at some point.

Also, are you on PS5? Because that's how the lobbies often look for me, too. Me and maybe two other B drivers and the rest A and A+.

Yes sir, the Bisons. It was Eric Yardley that was the submarine pitcher. I also went to 2 games when the Jays were in town last year and that was a good time.

Back on topic, I'm on the PS5. I've had days in mixed lobbies then the next day I would be in an all B rank lobby. My thought is that I'm close to A rank, that I've been placed in the higher ranked lobbies. Who knows at this point.

 

[fmq75]

Who knows at this point.

You can check it yourself,there is a progress bar on your (ingame) profile page

 

[TechnoIsLove]

It's getting lonely at the top 😂

Races: 4
Wins: 3
Poles: 3
Fastest laps: 2
Clean races: 3 (i was hit as I was getting out of the pits)

Weird thing is my SR is already at A, which is great but the DR is still only half way through the E rating progress bar 🤔🙂

 

[Fezzik]

Think I’ve found my level online - about 10 races in a row finishing midpack in group C. Maybe I should try the silly jacked up metas.

Race A turned into a midfield retro rally battle.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

I don't want to sound arrogant or annoying, but this is honestly hilarious 🤪 I even slowed down in lap 2 as already was 14 seconds ahead to try and make it interesting but.... 🤣

 

[CQR Deuce]

I don't want to sound arrogant or annoying, but this is honestly hilarious 🤪 I even slowed down in lap 2 as already was 14 seconds ahead to try and make it interesting but.... 🤣

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We get it you're fast blah blah blah.........lol just kidding nice work. 🤘🤘

 

[TechnoIsLove]

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