GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[sixty4half]

I used to believe that after about 45-60 mins of practice I was good for the week and then I would just race race race, with only minimal practice laps between races.

I sat down today for my third practice session of the week. Lap fricken 1 I am sticking with Drifter's ghost thru the whole infield and he only really takes off at the bus stop and I'm thinking I'm pretty close to his ghost and BAM a 1.56.071, a tenth faster than anything I had done. Then a 1.55.9, and I just kept going faster till I hit 1.55.712! P3 in mixed A/B lobbies!

This was my final race of the day. What you don't see is a ONE SEC penalty at Bus Stop during a skipped lap that allows 5th place to get in my slip stream for the final lap...



I finished the day approx 75-78% up the B rank meter.

 

[M Rossi]

Controller guys - how are you so fast? Do you use manual transmission? Any aides? Have you figured out the shift points for each of the cars?

Race c this week is so frustrating for me. I cannot afford a driving rig, so I use a controller. I tried the GTR and it sucks in my hands, but wins every race. The best I can do is either with a Corvette or the Mazda. I think I managed a sixth place with B drivers. Anyway what's your secret?

 

[sixty4half]

DualShock4 - Auto transmission, TC-0 and only use Active Stability Management during NASCAR style races. Really only three (Post edited to add 3rd) things come to mind

1 - Sometimes I have to ease into the accelerator because I'm in a lower gear than drivers with manual. I'm assuming I am actually losing a tenth or two here which is a shame. A turn that comes to mind is exiting the final turn of Laguna Seca. I believe auto sticks to 2nd and manual drivers like 3rd for less torque/more stability.

2 - I can't really compete for a podium in fuel saving races where the strat requires a lot of short shifting. The best you can hope for is a race that also requires tyres so you can grab a gallon or two but even that costs you a few seconds

Edit:
3 - In my hands, I feel like there is a big difference with my braking than a wheel user. Not so much the accelerator because I'm right handed. The biggest difference is when you want to ease OFF of the brakes. I can ease into the brakes very well with a controller. If a corner requires full braking transition to 50% braking I find it very difficult to do properly. I normally compensate by lifting off and then reapply 50% braking. I think Sardegna C is a track that requires this in a couple of spots. Dragon Trail Gradens reverse with the uphill braking into the double-apex hairpin is a spot that I have to take a diff braking strat. Although I've gotten better at that spot and others.

I imagine it is not difficult at all to simply lift your foot 50% of the way off a pedal.

 

[Mercia]

Daily C is so boring. Ive done one race and that is enough for me.
So tried the GTR in time trial and the handling is awful. Best lap I did was 1.59. Jumped in to the corvette and best lap was 1.57. During the race I started P14, and finished P11 only due to others spinning, crashing or quitting.

Bring on Bathurst next week.

All they needed to do was add a stop or tire strat to keep the race fresh throughout but as a 10 lap 'sprint' in Gr 4's, it's not great.

It annoys me that they didn't even implement passing of time despite starting at sunset.

Probably an unreasonable amount but it does annoy me.

At least give us something to look at

 

[Roggers]

All they needed to do was add a stop or tire strat to keep the race fresh throughout but as a 10 lap 'sprint' in Gr 4's, it's not great.

It annoys me that they didn't even implement passing of time despite starting at sunset.

Probably an unreasonable amount but it does annoy me.

At least give us something to look at

Yeah the full race just doesn’t do anything. I get if they stuck strategies into every race people would maybe complain, but this race they stick a little tyre wear on but then use racing hard tyres. Should have been medium tyres.
As for dynamic time I dont even know why have it in the game. I think they used it twice for daily races (Daytona 1st week & Bathurst 5/6 months ago).


Other than the boring race at Daytona, I’ve actually enjoyed racing Daily B and Daily A

Daily A - fun cars that you can drift and still have loads of grip. Downside is brakes, had a few locked brakes which caused me to lose control and spin before the corner. Also that Giulia sounds amazing!

Daily B - Did time trail for a few laps the other day and didn’t think I’d enjoy this race so didnt race it. Last night decided to give it ago and it’s actually a really fun race. 1st race didn’t go very well at all. So I started P15 before the final corner and I whacked the wall on the outside, 3 seconds penalty and 10 seconds behind before I even crossed the start line. Other races I did all went pretty well. My TT isnt very good so I’m starting towards the back (P12-P15) but with people losing control I ended up making it up to a P4 finish one race, another I was P6 but then hit the sausage through that mini S section lost control back down to P11. Others been solid P5-P10s.

 

[Hodd10]

Totally agree with race C. So dull. Bit of early excitement with the infield then snooze fest for the rest of the way.

I'm getting close to matching my times on the pad now I've moved to the G29. Just need to become more consistant. Was leading race B for 6 laps last night then I bin it on the last corner. Clearly going backwards at 10mph into a wall is considered wall riding by PD so a 1.5 comes my way. End up finishing 7th.

 

[Fezzik]

I’m glad a lot are running race B without traction control. So many places gained on the final corner from people mashing the throttle and spinning out. Very grateful for the Christmas gifts.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

ive had this happen in a Sport Daily, its a great feeling hopin it happens for you soon! 🤞👊

In GTS there where a week where we ran Gr 1 on Le Man's and it was group C only.
I was in a race with 6 cars in my liveries. Never before and never since. Was a great feeling

 

[Bullwinkle]

Controller guys - how are you so fast? Do you use manual transmission? Any aides? Have you figured out the shift points for each of the cars?

Race c this week is so frustrating for me. I cannot afford a driving rig, so I use a controller. I tried the GTR and it sucks in my hands, but wins every race. The best I can do is either with a Corvette or the Mazda. I think I managed a sixth place with B drivers. Anyway what's your secret?

I used to overthink the shift points way too much, looking at the dynagraphs and gearing. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. On a race like Daytona this week just shift when the rev bar gets full and starts blinking. It’s showing you the optimal highest-RPM shift point, which for the most part is ideal. There are ways to milk out a few more hundredths of a second my reviving higher, etc., but practice those during quali laps when you can look at the little blue (or red) arrow to let you know if it’s improving (or not).

If you’re having trouble in the GT-R, try the Jaguar. That’s what I’m running in. It’s incredibly stable in T1 and through the bus stop, plus it has great top speed AND a seventh gear to use when you’re drafting. The Mustang is fast but very loose, like the GT-R is. The Jag feels more planted. You may not get out of the corner as fast as a 4WD car, but you make up for it by being able to brake a little later into T1 and the infield horseshoes. See what you think.

 

[Talon16]

Well, I'm in the blue Mustang and I got hit. I probably should have mentioned that in the post. Sorry about the confusion.

Oh! Well, that changes things by exactly 180*. 100% on him!

 

[rAtey]

Blob

I imagine it is not difficult at all to simply lift your foot 50% of the way off a pedal.

If that were true, everyone would be a trailbrake champion. It is actually really hard to brake 50% without a load cell pedal. Most people on GT7 with wheels will be using a positionbased pedal (G29/G923 etc). It is unbelievably hard to lift off 50% with a foot.

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

Which Gr3 cars are competitive around Mount Panorama?

 

[Bullwinkle]

Controller guys - how are you so fast? Do you use manual transmission? Any aides? Have you figured out the shift points for each of the cars?

Race c this week is so frustrating for me. I cannot afford a driving rig, so I use a controller. I tried the GTR and it sucks in my hands, but wins every race. The best I can do is either with a Corvette or the Mazda. I think I managed a sixth place with B drivers. Anyway what's your secret?

One more thing: from what I can tell, the blinking blue lights on the rev bar are unique to each car. They represent different optimal points based on the individual car’s torque and power curves and not some universal “red line = shift now” type of rule.

 

[rAtey]

One more thing: from what I can tell, the blinking blue lights on the rev bar are unique to each car. They represent different optimal points based on the individual car’s torque and power curves and not some universal “red line = shift now” type of rule.

Don't think this is true. I drive the Supra alot and its quicker to shift before the bar reaches the end. It dies out after that. Think this applies to more cars.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

It is unbelievably hard to lift off 50% with a foot.

Huh? Just lift your foot up a little instead of a lot. I'll admit that I'd be hard-pressed to hit 50% exactly, but it's not that hard to do, even with the standard G29 pedals. But maybe I'm an anomaly. Strike that - I've always been different!

 

[GaugeForever]

I also don’t find it hard. However, the goal isn’t a specific percentage. You use throttle to hit specific points on the track to maximize speed through corners and widen the corners. You have to have a feel for it.

If you think throttle granularity is too small and hard with a pedal, be prepared for a bad time with brakes.

 

[hollowkatt]

you guys are using granularity? Go Pedal has two settings: On and Off

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

EDIT: It's become apparent to me that I am the jerk here, and that my attitude has been getting worse and worse over the past few weeks. Thanks to everyone who helped me see that I need (and want) to change. I was tempted to delete the link to the video here, but I'm leaving it to remind myself never to be this person again.

I'm posting this for 2 reasons. One is to ask if you think I overreacted (but honestly, I don't care - I'm fed up but I'll get over it). And 2: I can't believe I didn't get a penalty for my reaction. It's clear I did it on purpose - I turned right into him. I know this has been beaten to death, but come on!

By the way, this is all my fault anyway, because of my horrendous entry into this corner. I mean, it sucked, and I probably deserved whatever happened to me for driving like this. And yes, I know how contradictory I sound.

 

[hollowkatt]

I'm posting this for 2 reasons. One is to ask if you think I overreacted (but honestly, I don't care - I'm fed up but I'll get over it). And 2: I can't believe I didn't get a penalty for my reaction. It's clear I did it on purpose - I turned right into him. I know this has been beaten to death, but come on!

By the way, this is all my fault anyway, because of my horrendous entry into this corner. I mean, it sucked, and I probably deserved whatever happened to me for driving like this. And yes, I know how contradictory I sound.

my dude you sent him into the ****ing shadow realm lolol

 

[Talon16]

Had a good B earlier today in the Ford GT. That car is still good! It drives really well and doesn't have the typical MR tendencies. Drives more like the Porsche than the Lambo.

Some really close back-and-forths but ended up getting the win by .049".

 

[Dep Fishtail]

I'm posting this for 2 reasons. One is to ask if you think I overreacted (but honestly, I don't care - I'm fed up but I'll get over it). And 2: I can't believe I didn't get a penalty for my reaction. It's clear I did it on purpose - I turned right into him. I know this has been beaten to death, but come on!

By the way, this is all my fault anyway, because of my horrendous entry into this corner. I mean, it sucked, and I probably deserved whatever happened to me for driving like this. And yes, I know how contradictory I sound.

His bump didn’t look intentional as you were not carrying good speed.
He then stayed inside and gave you space rather than pushing you outside.
You then completely lost it and made a punt that is the type we all bitch about yourself included.

Not a proud moment, I’m sure.

 

[rAtey]

Huh? Just lift your foot up a little instead of a lot. I'll admit that I'd be hard-pressed to hit 50% exactly, but it's not that hard to do, even with the standard G29 pedals. But maybe I'm an anomaly. Strike that - I've always been different!

Could be (without a doubt) that I just suck, but it is so much easier to use a load cell. I could never do it on my old g29. Always thought I was pretty lame at trailbraking, then I noticed that I was barely breaking at all.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

I'm posting this for 2 reasons. One is to ask if you think I overreacted (but honestly, I don't care - I'm fed up but I'll get over it). And 2: I can't believe I didn't get a penalty for my reaction. It's clear I did it on purpose - I turned right into him. I know this has been beaten to death, but come on!

By the way, this is all my fault anyway, because of my horrendous entry into this corner. I mean, it sucked, and I probably deserved whatever happened to me for driving like this. And yes, I know how contradictory I sound.

Fully deserved. He harassed a senior citizen.🤣🤣🤣

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

my dude you sent him into the ****ing shadow realm lolol

I think a blue shell would've done less damage. 😂

 

[Famine]

One is to ask if you think I overreacted

You reacted to what could have been nothing at all on his screen - his car is only where your console thinks it is - with murder.


Yes.

 

[GaugeForever]

I agree with everything you said. Yes it’s your fault. You were off line and it was reasonable to lose two positions when they were so close. You also slammed into that person who cut it hard to the left to give you space which means the bump was accidental.

Also, yea, it’s absolutely ridiculous you both didn’t get a penalty. A .5 second for him bumping you slightly on accident and a massive one for you punting him off track.

Dude, I know your times. You’re too fast to let yourself get like this. Take a break man.

 

[Fezzik]

What’s this about no penalties? I got a 5 sec hit (deserved) for a bit of sloppiness in turn 1. SR skipped A and went straight down to B !!! Must have been my villanous new Jag taking over:

(livery by maxpower201135 - and I’ve clearly been playing too much Grid Legends).

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Dude, I know your times. You’re too fast to let yourself get like this. Take a break man.

Thanks, and you're absolutely right - when I get like this I need to take a break. I get so "me" focused that I stop thinking about the other drivers as people. I guess I need to write an application that reaches out and slaps me every once in a while.

Not making an excuse here, but this has been a really frustrating Daily Race week. It's a good track, but frustrating because small mistakes allow entire groups of cars to gang up on you, and it's hard for me to not take it personally. Hmmm, that's some insightful **** right there. I hope I pay attention to it.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Had a good B earlier today in the Ford GT. That car is still good! It drives really well and doesn't have the typical MR tendencies. Drives more like the Porsche than the Lambo.

Some really close back-and-forths but ended up getting the win by .049".

Thanks for the reminder. I had almost forgotten that I have that beautiful machine in my virtual garage.

I took her for some practice laps. Surprise: she's as quick as my Mustang. Tomorrow she's going to race against all the bad boys. 😆

 

[hollowkatt]

UGH I ALMOST GOT A WIN

Race C, qualified 4th with a 1:58:009 (I bottled the exit of the bus stop or I'd have had a mid 1:57) and by the exit of T1 I was in 2nd.
Followed the leader closely for the next two laps till they bottled the entry into the International Horseshoe and I was able to squeeze up the inside and take the lead. He then spun exiting the West Horseshoe and I had clear sailing for basically the next 8 laps or so.

The original pole sitter, who qualified with a 1:55, started cracking off faster and faster laps, culminating with a forking 1:54:00x which was a full 3.5 seconds faster than my fastest lap caught me on lap 9. I could pull away through T1 all the way to NASCAR 2 then he'd catch me down the straights, through the bus stop, and into T1. Messed up the exit to the bus stop on lap 9 and he pulled away by a full 4 seconds by the end of lap 10. If I hadn't bottled the bus stop twice I'd have had just enough buffer to win.

Still happy with my progress and still happy with how I'm handling the wheel but definitely too ginger into the bus stop and the horseshoes. Great racing, just not fast enough!